|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 21:16:56 GMT
The only reason he didnt play at Deportivo is because their club legend was starting striker and the fans wanted him and not Oliveira, despite him playing better Was he really playing better than Riki? Fans don't pick teams, and Riki bagged 13 goals. |
|
|
|
Post by vincentpericard on Jul 22, 2013 21:17:39 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by slozenger on Jul 22, 2013 21:19:46 GMT
Speaking of Egyptian, there's correspondance on that account with (the real) Mido where he asks him "how r u mate? is it true that u r egyptian?"
The twitter account holder doesn't reply.
|
|
|
|
Post by fortressbritannia on Jul 22, 2013 21:25:08 GMT
So he's not signed and are non the wiser then?
|
|
|
|
Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 22, 2013 21:29:34 GMT
So he's not signed and are non the wiser then? Yep. |
|
|
|
Post by djduncanjames on Jul 22, 2013 21:29:51 GMT
Is he in Stoke then? Medical and that? This thread is so confusing...
|
|
|
|
Post by stokeyouth on Jul 22, 2013 21:57:01 GMT
The only reason he didnt play at Deportivo is because their club legend was starting striker and the fans wanted him and not Oliveira, despite him playing better Was he really playing better than Riki? Fans don't pick teams, and Riki bagged 13 goals. Oliviera's style was better for the team but the manager was too stubborn to change, Oliveira every time he came on changed the game and whenever started scored. Should have started more but manager too stubborn and started Riki. Sounds familiar huh |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 21:59:41 GMT
Was he really playing better than Riki? Fans don't pick teams, and Riki bagged 13 goals. Oliviera's style was better for the team but the manager was too stubborn to change, Oliveira every time he came on changed the game and whenever started scored. Should have started more but manager too stubborn and started Riki. Sounds familiar huh Riki did well didn't he? He's a good player. Which games did Oliveira change? Genuine question, I've no idea how he played for them. Seems strange that fans and manager of a team in a relegation battle would both reject a player making a difference? |
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2013 22:00:53 GMT
Was he really playing better than Riki? Fans don't pick teams, and Riki bagged 13 goals. Oliviera's style was better for the team but the manager was too stubborn to change, Oliveira every time he came on changed the game and whenever started scored. Should have started more but manager too stubborn and started Riki. Sounds familiar huh Where have You read this?  They were pretty much 20th all season weren't they? I can't imagine he changed the game that often! |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 22:08:15 GMT
Seemed to be something dodgy at Depor going on with a Portuguese agent having a lot of influence and seven Portuguese players at the club.
|
|
|
|
Post by stokeyouth on Jul 22, 2013 22:13:16 GMT
Oliviera's style was better for the team but the manager was too stubborn to change, Oliveira every time he came on changed the game and whenever started scored. Should have started more but manager too stubborn and started Riki. Sounds familiar huh Riki did well didn't he? He's a good player. Which games did Oliveira change? Genuine question, I've no idea how he played for them. Seems strange that fans and manager of a team in a relegation battle would both reject a player making a difference? There was a spell of 5-6 games where they went unbeaten, he started in a 4-0 win, scored and got an assist, was then dropped. Losing 1-0 to Mallorca, he came off the bench and made a bursting run down the left, on the counter, few passes later they scored and they went onto win. I only remember that game because it was on TV , but his pace and energy was always a game changer much like Jerome for us. Not many liked him but he still changed games |
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2013 22:13:18 GMT
Who were they out of interest Rob?
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 22:15:44 GMT
Riki did well didn't he? He's a good player. Which games did Oliveira change? Genuine question, I've no idea how he played for them. Seems strange that fans and manager of a team in a relegation battle would both reject a player making a difference? There was a spell of 5-6 games where they went unbeaten, he started in a 4-0 win, scored and got an assist, was then dropped. Losing 1-0 to Mallorca, he came off the bench and made a bursting run down the left, on the counter, few passes later they scored and they went onto win. I only remember that game because it was on TV , but his pace and energy was always a game changer much like Jerome for us. Not many liked him but he still changed games Interesting, I remember him being touted as the next big thing at the Euros. Still, they got through three managers last season and doesn't seem like any of them had that much faith in him, while Riki scored goals fairly regularly by the standards of a doomed side who couldn't pay their players. It's a strange one. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 22:24:37 GMT
Who were they out of interest Rob? Not that I have a clue who any of them are but Pizzi, Bruno Gama, Silvio, Ze Castro, Diogo Salomao were five of them, no idea who the other one is! |
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2013 22:32:34 GMT
Cheers! According to transfermarkt, Oliviera's agents are the friendly fellas at Gestifute who are probably having their best summer ever. Why hasn't the poster of the same name told us about him I wonder?
Anyway I find the whole situation around this lad strange.
|
|
|
|
Post by stokeyouth on Jul 22, 2013 22:38:21 GMT
Who were they out of interest Rob? Not that I have a clue who any of them are but Pizzi, Bruno Gama, Silvio, Ze Castro, Diogo Salomao were five of them, no idea who the other one is! Andre Santos central midfielder is one you're missing, not sure on other |
|
|
|
Post by stokie1997 on Jul 22, 2013 22:39:04 GMT
Tbh I wouldn't mind a loan for the lad and hopefully he will look promising and score a few goals with Diouf beside him, but I wouldn't jump in the deep end and buy him straight away hope it's a loan. About time we utilised the loan market.......
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 22:40:33 GMT
Not that I have a clue who any of them are but Pizzi, Bruno Gama, Silvio, Ze Castro, Diogo Salomao were five of them, no idea who the other one is! Andre Santos central midfielder is one you're missing, not sure on other Cheers. The other one is Oliveira I think. |
|
|
|
Post by stokeyouth on Jul 22, 2013 22:45:22 GMT
After reading John Percy's article it looks like the Diouf deal has collapsed.
Do you think Oliviera is a plan B/replacement for Diouf or do you think Hughes would want both and ship out 2 strikers?
Or maybe all this Oliveira talk is to scare Hannover into dropping their price
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 22:47:40 GMT
I reckon the Diouf saga will rumble on until the end of the window - Oliveira I could see us being in for because he offers something different to what we've got and is available. Might be wrong though.
|
|
|
|
Post by stokeyouth on Jul 22, 2013 22:56:22 GMT
I thought that. Get Oliveira in now and linked up with the team in the US, get him settled and give him a good preseason with a few games. Nab Diouf late on in the window for 4m+ add ons |
|
|
|
Post by stokemanusa on Jul 22, 2013 23:05:50 GMT
After reading John Percy's article it looks like the Diouf deal has collapsed. Do you think Oliviera is a plan B/replacement for Diouf or do you think Hughes would want both and ship out 2 strikers? Or maybe all this Oliveira talk is to scare Hannover into dropping their price One thing I do know is Mr. Coates, upper management, Cartwright and Hughes all are pushing PR up at all levels in the clubs dealings... Transfers, Customer appreciation, and Stokes brand all over.. Well done. 100% turn-around in most aspects. With oliveira and talk of diouf we've really turned a corner and for the better our acquisitions so far have been shockingly good far better than anyone could imagine... barca b on a free... come on. |
|
|
|
Post by unknown182 on Jul 22, 2013 23:14:46 GMT
I'm starting to wonder about the credibility of this. All the talk has spun from one article from Portugal, which could be their version of the daily star for all we know.
|
|
|
|
Post by stokemanusa on Jul 22, 2013 23:32:16 GMT
I wonder if it's Jelavic we're after to buy he's about 6m aswell and has like nixon stated he's 27 and has improved... ?
|
|
|
|
Post by Block 22 on Jul 22, 2013 23:33:30 GMT
I'm starting to wonder about the credibility of this. All the talk has spun from one article from Portugal, which could be their version of the daily star for all we know. John Percy is an extremely reliable source. If he says we've been in talks then we certainly will have been. |
|
|
|
Post by stokeyouth on Jul 22, 2013 23:35:16 GMT
I wonder if it's Jelavic we're after to buy he's about 6m aswell and has like nixon stated he's 27 and has improved... ? Would prefer Diouf all day long over him. Maybe if we're still looking in a month |
|
|
|
Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 22, 2013 23:42:22 GMT
After reading John Percy's article it looks like the Diouf deal has collapsed. Do you think Oliviera is a plan B/replacement for Diouf or do you think Hughes would want both and ship out 2 strikers? Or maybe all this Oliveira talk is to scare Hannover into dropping their price One thing I do know is Mr. Coates, upper management, Cartwright and Hughes all are pushing PR up at all levels in the clubs dealings... Transfers, Customer appreciation, and Stokes brand all over.. Well done. 100% turn-around in most aspects. With oliveira and talk of diouf we've really turned a corner and for the better our acquisitions so far have been shockingly good far better than anyone could imagine... barca b on a free... come on. I think I'd wait to say that they have been shockingly good until they have played a few games, but it is obvious we've changed focus. |
|
|
|
Post by bostonstokie on Jul 23, 2013 0:22:55 GMT
Love this line: "Besides the larger star Peter Crouch" from the Portuguese Record |
|
|
|
Post by stokie1997 on Jul 23, 2013 0:41:22 GMT
Been scouring the Bevin opinions on the lad, TBH that are mixed some say he is a raw talent and one for the future and some say he is absolutely toss..... Only time will tell, hope he is class !!
|
|
|
|
Post by slozenger on Jul 23, 2013 9:18:53 GMT
|
|
