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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 18:52:07 GMT
Managed a sub-50 10k on one of my regular training routes tonight (Biddulph to Congleton and back).
Thats my first sub 50 for quite a while (around 2 months ago was my last, I think), and it came as a bit of a surprise. Wasnt expecting or aiming for that time, but I felt good so went with it.
Think/hope I'm starting to get back into decent shape, after a pretty tardy showing in terms of training (or lack thereof) throughout December. Felt very sluggish when I started back properly early Jan.
Just under 7 weeks til the half.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 18:54:19 GMT
20 miles this morning, 3 hours, nice and steady. *nice and rapid
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Post by felonious on Jan 27, 2020 19:51:12 GMT
Well I went for it on yesterday's run as a bit of preparation for the season opener at Alsager next Sunday. Left the lads standing by the time I hit the canal path. They didn't even catch up when I stopped to shake Cactus's hand on his way out for a jolly They've either over indulged over the holiday season or I'm in the groove Looks like there could be s bit of competition for first in for the Oatcake 😉 We doing time or age grading?
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Post by yes on Jan 27, 2020 19:58:16 GMT
Looks like there could be s bit of competition for first in for the Oatcake 😉 We doing time or age grading? Let's not worry ourselves about age grading 😉
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Post by felonious on Jan 27, 2020 20:25:11 GMT
We doing time or age grading? Let's not worry ourselves about age grading 😉 You're heading in the right direction and I'm coming back from my injury I reckon 25/26 minutes should do it for you. Of course a couple of years back it would have been 24 minutes
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Post by Timmypotter on Jan 27, 2020 20:35:13 GMT
Perfect form 😁
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Post by Northy on Jan 28, 2020 7:35:01 GMT
which one, the furry four legged one ?
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Post by Northy on Jan 28, 2020 7:36:50 GMT
Did my first 10 miler tonight. Felt much better than the 14k last time out, but I was taking it easier. Slow and steady 👍🏃♂️ Just followed you 😉 and me, but don't know who you are on there
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Post by Northy on Jan 28, 2020 7:37:43 GMT
Four Villages!! 😯😯👍👍🏃♂️🏃♂️ Haha thanks mate. Somebody told me who did the race in the 80's that they got 1:14, and they only came around 250th! Never thought I'd be able to run under 1:20 a few years ago, I ran Potters arf in about 2:06! you did under 1.20 in the 4 villages with those hills ?
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Post by Northy on Jan 28, 2020 8:28:36 GMT
I've signed up for the Leadership in running course, anybody else done that ?
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Post by Northy on Jan 28, 2020 8:34:23 GMT
It definitely does, when I got back into it the guy at the running club first sent me out with the older more rotund ladies, I couldn't walk properly for 2 days after. Wasn't long before you were mixing it with the hot lycra though I think Yes chose his training partner because she's easy on the eye PT was looking around a house in Silverdale at the weekend buy I managed to tell her it's a bit rough and she looked at 2 in our village yesterday, 1 is 2 mins walk from my house
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 8:42:12 GMT
and me, but don't know who you are on there Are you CD?
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Post by felonious on Jan 28, 2020 9:44:46 GMT
and me, but don't know who you are on there Are you CD? Do you mean OCD?
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Post by Northy on Jan 28, 2020 10:10:29 GMT
and me, but don't know who you are on there Are you CD? seedy, yep
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Post by yes on Jan 28, 2020 18:52:09 GMT
Haha thanks mate. Somebody told me who did the race in the 80's that they got 1:14, and they only came around 250th! Never thought I'd be able to run under 1:20 a few years ago, I ran Potters arf in about 2:06! you did under 1.20 in the 4 villages with those hills ? Yeah, last 2 miles are downhill though which makes for a great finish!
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Post by yes on Jan 28, 2020 18:54:13 GMT
Let's not worry ourselves about age grading 😉 You're heading in the right direction and I'm coming back from my injury I reckon 25/26 minutes should do it for you. Of course a couple of years back it would have been 24 minutes 25 should be easy enough, I'll just run 5 consecutive miles quicker than I've ever ran one 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 20:25:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 20:49:05 GMT
Further to my above post, I am going to do a couple of training runs and practice with gels.
I've read a few articles and there seems to be conflicting advice.
I appreciate everyone is different, and you need to find what works for you, but are there any general guidelines you can give me?
I'm thinking I'll need 2 x 60ml gels over a half marathon run. Does that sound about right?
I'm thinking one after about 4 miles and the next after about 8.
Am I on the right path?
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Post by felonious on Jan 29, 2020 5:34:38 GMT
Further to my above post, I am going to do a couple of training runs and practice with gels. I've read a few articles and there seems to be conflicting advice. I appreciate everyone is different, and you need to find what works for you, but are there any general guidelines you can give me? I'm thinking I'll need 2 x 60ml gels over a half marathon run. Does that sound about right? I'm thinking one after about 4 miles and the next after about 8. Am I on the right path? The Torq gels take about a mile to kick in and the first 10K roughly is on the body food store before the body then looks elsewhere so yes I think that should keep you happy for the first half. My only suggestion would be to say to you relax and don't try to overthink this because gradually you'll understand more by training on the distance and what your body needs to sustain that level of running. I don't know any of my fellow runners who would take a gel during a training run over a half marathon distance although for you it would be sensible to get the feel of them before your first half.
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Post by Timmypotter on Jan 29, 2020 6:49:45 GMT
Further to my above post, I am going to do a couple of training runs and practice with gels. I've read a few articles and there seems to be conflicting advice. I appreciate everyone is different, and you need to find what works for you, but are there any general guidelines you can give me? I'm thinking I'll need 2 x 60ml gels over a half marathon run. Does that sound about right? I'm thinking one after about 4 miles and the next after about 8. Am I on the right path? The Torq gels take about a mile to kick in and the first 10K roughly is on the body food store before the body then looks elsewhere so yes I think that should keep you happy for the first half. My only suggestion would be to say to you relax and don't try to overthink this because gradually you'll understand more by training on the distance and what your body needs to sustain that level of running. I don't know any of my fellow runners who would take a gel during a training run over a half marathon distance although for you it would be sensible to get the feel of them before your first half. I agree with Fel. Don't worry about it and learn what your body needs by running more. You probably don't need a gel for a half marathon if you're going to be round in under 2 hours (which I'm sure you'll do easily) but probably worth trying one just to make sure it doesn't go through you if you're going to take one. A big bowl of porridge 2 hours before a half would be my suggestion though. I've only ever used High5 gels as they're cheapest, (essentially they're all just sugar aren't they?). They do thick 30ml ones or runnier 60ml ones with or without added caffeine. You can often get high 5 packs with gels/recovery drinks etc. for less than £10
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Post by Northy on Jan 29, 2020 9:33:56 GMT
you did under 1.20 in the 4 villages with those hills ? Yeah, last 2 miles are downhill though which makes for a great finish! Yep, done it a few times, last time it was called off when we were all waiting at the start line, after a 45 min delay owing to ice that wasnt thawing. It's been called off at least twice in the last few years so I dont enter it these days
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Post by Northy on Jan 29, 2020 9:35:38 GMT
The Torq gels take about a mile to kick in and the first 10K roughly is on the body food store before the body then looks elsewhere so yes I think that should keep you happy for the first half. My only suggestion would be to say to you relax and don't try to overthink this because gradually you'll understand more by training on the distance and what your body needs to sustain that level of running. I don't know any of my fellow runners who would take a gel during a training run over a half marathon distance although for you it would be sensible to get the feel of them before your first half. I agree with Fel. Don't worry about it and learn what your body needs by running more. You probably don't need a gel for a half marathon if you're going to be round in under 2 hours (which I'm sure you'll do easily) but probably worth trying one just to make sure it doesn't go through you if you're going to take one. A big bowl of porridge 2 hours before a half would be my suggestion though. I've only ever used High5 gels as they're cheapest, (essentially they're all just sugar aren't they?). They do thick 30ml ones or runnier 60ml ones with or without added caffeine. You can often get high 5 packs with gels/recovery drinks etc. for less than £10 Your body only has 90 mins until your electrolytes need topping up so should take something if its 2 hours
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 9:48:52 GMT
Further to my above post, I am going to do a couple of training runs and practice with gels. I've read a few articles and there seems to be conflicting advice. I appreciate everyone is different, and you need to find what works for you, but are there any general guidelines you can give me? I'm thinking I'll need 2 x 60ml gels over a half marathon run. Does that sound about right? I'm thinking one after about 4 miles and the next after about 8. Am I on the right path? The Torq gels take about a mile to kick in and the first 10K roughly is on the body food store before the body then looks elsewhere so yes I think that should keep you happy for the first half. My only suggestion would be to say to you relax and don't try to overthink this because gradually you'll understand more by training on the distance and what your body needs to sustain that level of running. I don't know any of my fellow runners who would take a gel during a training run over a half marathon distance although for you it would be sensible to get the feel of them before your first half. My concern is fatigue. I always seem to struggle on my longer runs, but in hindsight I almost always run fasted. Maybe I just need to get some Ready Brek and give it a go?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 9:49:56 GMT
I agree with Fel. Don't worry about it and learn what your body needs by running more. You probably don't need a gel for a half marathon if you're going to be round in under 2 hours (which I'm sure you'll do easily) but probably worth trying one just to make sure it doesn't go through you if you're going to take one. A big bowl of porridge 2 hours before a half would be my suggestion though. I've only ever used High5 gels as they're cheapest, (essentially they're all just sugar aren't they?). They do thick 30ml ones or runnier 60ml ones with or without added caffeine. You can often get high 5 packs with gels/recovery drinks etc. for less than £10 Your body only has 90 mins until your electrolytes need topping up so should take something if its 2 hours So you do recommend using a gel for the half then?
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Post by Northy on Jan 29, 2020 16:25:37 GMT
Your body only has 90 mins until your electrolytes need topping up so should take something if its 2 hours So you do recommend using a gel for the half then? yes, take one about 9 miles, gives it a mile to work in then you will have 30 minutes of gel
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Post by Northy on Jan 29, 2020 16:31:17 GMT
Lots of people use them, but is there a sports shop anywhere in Stoke that would sell individual ones, to stop you buying a multi pack straight off before you like them ? As mentioned before, I use the OTE brand which I find suit me. I tried a Highfive.co.uk soluble energy tablet in water on sunday (free at the running show at the weekend) and a few minutes after I could tell if i had anymore I would be behind a hedge, stomach started making funny noises and producing gas I just then stuck to my gels.
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Post by yes on Jan 29, 2020 18:34:30 GMT
Lots of people use them, but is there a sports shop anywhere in Stoke that would sell individual ones, to stop you buying a multi pack straight off before you like them ? As mentioned before, I use the OTE brand which I find suit me. I tried a Highfive.co.uk soluble energy tablet in water on sunday (free at the running show at the weekend) and a few minutes after I could tell if i had anymore I would be behind a hedge, stomach started making funny noises and producing gas I just then stuck to my gels. They stock SIS in a lot of supermarkets. Go Outdoors also stocks some up Hanley(duck)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 18:53:20 GMT
Lots of people use them, but is there a sports shop anywhere in Stoke that would sell individual ones, to stop you buying a multi pack straight off before you like them ? As mentioned before, I use the OTE brand which I find suit me. I tried a Highfive.co.uk soluble energy tablet in water on sunday (free at the running show at the weekend) and a few minutes after I could tell if i had anymore I would be behind a hedge, stomach started making funny noises and producing gas I just then stuck to my gels. A lot of the cycle shops will stock a good range of gels too. I always found SIS to be better for me when I was cycling but you need to find which one works for you, or more importantly which ones you can get down easily... and keep down 😉
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Post by hamptonpig on Jan 30, 2020 7:44:23 GMT
Lots of people use them, but is there a sports shop anywhere in Stoke that would sell individual ones, to stop you buying a multi pack straight off before you like them ? As mentioned before, I use the OTE brand which I find suit me. I tried a Highfive.co.uk soluble energy tablet in water on sunday (free at the running show at the weekend) and a few minutes after I could tell if i had anymore I would be behind a hedge, stomach started making funny noises and producing gas I just then stuck to my gels. A lot of the cycle shops will stock a good range of gels too. I always found SIS to be better for me when I was cycling but you need to find which one works for you, or more importantly which ones you can get down easily... and keep down 😉 Lidl had SIS in recently, £3 for 6 I think. I've always struggled with my stomach and gels but I have used Torq until recently. Luckily most of my races are off road and long now so the feed stations of cold pizza, chicken sarnies, pork pies etc keep me fuelled! I have tried the new Kendal Mint Cake gels though and I carry a few of them with me for when I need a hit.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 30, 2020 8:15:21 GMT
I sweat like a fucking horse so I use the saltier ones. As above have it early enough to have an effect. Have it and forget about it. Try one in a training run as a trial (in case it gives you the shits or something) but imo its good to generally train for a half without having and to get your body used to storing more and more glycogen.
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