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Post by oggyoggy on Jun 3, 2013 12:36:38 GMT
People who slag off modern players for being arrogant and overpaid and not working hard, but who also slag off jon walters who has done nothing but work his arse off for our team from day 1
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Post by lordb on Jun 3, 2013 13:17:55 GMT
Players wages Agents Mercenary players Players signing contracts then demanding new one half way through Pointless international friendlies that give blank weekends mid season Ticket prices Diving Waving imaginary cards to get players booked/sent off Feigned injury to breakup play Players intimidating and arguing with refs Managers who whine about poor refs instead of their own ineptitude Parachute payments for relegated clubs Extortionate cost of replica shirts Having to always stay up til end of MOTD to watch Stoke Other than that I love football! anyone else read this post whilst imagining a Monty Python style rantastic voice? Possible Cleese although more likely Palin |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 13:24:44 GMT
REFEREES!!!
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Post by johnsollom on Jun 3, 2013 13:28:13 GMT
Moaning so called supporters week in week out lets hope those whingers don't renew season tickets this time they will not be missed!
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Post by metalhead on Jun 3, 2013 13:34:34 GMT
The general attitude of some players, when it comes to things outside of football. Let me give you an example:
A mate of mine is a professional kitchen fitter/designer. He does bespoke/custom kitchens so they're a bit more fancy than your ordinary B&Q special. Anyway, he has an excellent reputation and a few years ago started fitting larger, fancier kitchens for very wealthy people round Alderley Edge, Wilmslow etc.
One day, he got a phone call from Paul Scholes asking him if he was willing to fit a kitchen for him. Obviously he agreed. He turned up to the house and was amazed at what a normal guy he is. Scholes always opened the door in the morning for him, was very welcoming, offered to make him a brew everyday, asked my mate for advice on the style of kitchen (valued his opinion), was very friendly and was in no way awkward round him. He also lives a very ordinary lifestyle, picks his kids up from school everyday, goes the shops himself etc. Just a very normal bloke in all. My mate felt quite comfortable talking to him in general and they chatted about various subjects such as their kids etc.
A few months later, he got a phone call from Nani's 'personal assistant'(?) asking if he could fit a kitchen for him too. He obviously agreed but what he experienced was a total contrast. He arrived on the first day to be greeted by Nani's personal assistant. He was told that he must NOT go in the house when/if Nani was there and was to wait outside if Nani returned home for whatever reason (he never did). He was under strict instruction that if Nani's car was parked in the driveway when he arrived in the morning, he was to turn round and go home. My mate explained that he would need to ask for some customer input, as the style of kitchen is somewhat a subjective thing, driven by taste... The PA gave him a kitchen magazine with a page circled with a biro. He was told to 'replicate that as close as possible'. He was given a mobile phone number to contact the PA and most days he was in the house on his own, all day! The PA was apparently quite unpleasant and would fob him off after 30 seconds on the phone with excuses like he couldn't talk because he was 'late for a meeting' or 'driving', so really, he had no input whatsoever. My mate said he hated doing the work as he was having to make style/design decisions that he usually would leave to the customer and that he felt his reputation was on the line if he got them wrong. He told me when he finished, he phoned the PA to tell him that the work was done. The PA told him he would be wired the rest of the payment later in the week (Scholes wrote a cheque while he waited).
Two complete opposites. One genuinely nice guy trying to live an ordinary life and another with a massive superiority complex. Yet we all know who's the more respected footballer round the world.
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Post by tolkapotter on Jun 3, 2013 13:40:27 GMT
There's a lot on this thread I'd have put down. To save time I'd add 'time wasting' as I couldn't see that one listed.... We all do it... I know, but being one down and running to the corner and sticking your arse out and hoping to eat up ten minutes... Can't we just play fecking football? If we're winning one nil.... keep it tight, by all means, but running to the corner flag does my head in. Oh and that obstruction rule.... what happened to that? Obstruction is now called 'proffesional football'. Did the rule change... if it did, I want it back.
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Post by kentpotter on Jun 3, 2013 13:50:52 GMT
Not having the choice to stand
Players appealing for everything knowing full well it's not theirs
Kick-off times and days being moved cos of telly
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 14:33:04 GMT
Americanisms...Soccer, 1st Period, Over Time, Infringement.... and I hate..no. I despise..players tweeting.....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 14:36:23 GMT
The general attitude of some players, when it comes to things outside of football. Let me give you an example: A mate of mine is a professional kitchen fitter/designer. He does bespoke/custom kitchens so they're a bit more fancy than your ordinary B&Q special. Anyway, he has an excellent reputation and a few years ago started fitting larger, fancier kitchens for very wealthy people round Alderley Edge, Wilmslow etc. One day, he got a phone call from Paul Scholes asking him if he was willing to fit a kitchen for him. Obviously he agreed. He turned up to the house and was amazed at what a normal guy he is. Scholes always opened the door in the morning for him, was very welcoming, offered to make him a brew everyday, asked my mate for advice on the style of kitchen (valued his opinion), was very friendly and was in no way awkward round him. He also lives a very ordinary lifestyle, picks his kids up from school everyday, goes the shops himself etc. Just a very normal bloke in all. My mate felt quite comfortable talking to him in general and they chatted about various subjects such as their kids etc. A few months later, he got a phone call from Nani's 'personal assistant'(?) asking if he could fit a kitchen for him too. He obviously agreed but what he experienced was a total contrast. He arrived on the first day to be greeted by Nani's personal assistant. He was told that he must NOT go in the house when/if Nani was there and was to wait outside if Nani returned home for whatever reason (he never did). He was under strict instruction that if Nani's car was parked in the driveway when he arrived in the morning, he was to turn round and go home. My mate explained that he would need to ask for some customer input, as the style of kitchen is somewhat a subjective thing, driven by taste... The PA gave him a kitchen magazine with a page circled with a biro. He was told to 'replicate that as close as possible'. He was given a mobile phone number to contact the PA and most days he was in the house on his own, all day! The PA was apparently quite unpleasant and would fob him off after 30 seconds on the phone with excuses like he couldn't talk because he was 'late for a meeting' or 'driving', so really, he had no input whatsoever. My mate said he hated doing the work as he was having to make style/design decisions that he usually would leave to the customer and that he felt his reputation was on the line if he got them wrong. He told me when he finished, he phoned the PA to tell him that the work was done. The PA told him he would be wired the rest of the payment later in the week (Scholes wrote a cheque while he waited). Two complete opposites. One genuinely nice guy trying to live an ordinary life and another with a massive superiority complex. Yet we all know who's the more respected footballer round the world. Bet he got paid a fair whack for it....So what...Get on with it and stop yr whining....At least he has a job..... |
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Post by metalhead on Jun 3, 2013 14:51:47 GMT
The general attitude of some players, when it comes to things outside of football. Let me give you an example: A mate of mine is a professional kitchen fitter/designer. He does bespoke/custom kitchens so they're a bit more fancy than your ordinary B&Q special. Anyway, he has an excellent reputation and a few years ago started fitting larger, fancier kitchens for very wealthy people round Alderley Edge, Wilmslow etc. One day, he got a phone call from Paul Scholes asking him if he was willing to fit a kitchen for him. Obviously he agreed. He turned up to the house and was amazed at what a normal guy he is. Scholes always opened the door in the morning for him, was very welcoming, offered to make him a brew everyday, asked my mate for advice on the style of kitchen (valued his opinion), was very friendly and was in no way awkward round him. He also lives a very ordinary lifestyle, picks his kids up from school everyday, goes the shops himself etc. Just a very normal bloke in all. My mate felt quite comfortable talking to him in general and they chatted about various subjects such as their kids etc. A few months later, he got a phone call from Nani's 'personal assistant'(?) asking if he could fit a kitchen for him too. He obviously agreed but what he experienced was a total contrast. He arrived on the first day to be greeted by Nani's personal assistant. He was told that he must NOT go in the house when/if Nani was there and was to wait outside if Nani returned home for whatever reason (he never did). He was under strict instruction that if Nani's car was parked in the driveway when he arrived in the morning, he was to turn round and go home. My mate explained that he would need to ask for some customer input, as the style of kitchen is somewhat a subjective thing, driven by taste... The PA gave him a kitchen magazine with a page circled with a biro. He was told to 'replicate that as close as possible'. He was given a mobile phone number to contact the PA and most days he was in the house on his own, all day! The PA was apparently quite unpleasant and would fob him off after 30 seconds on the phone with excuses like he couldn't talk because he was 'late for a meeting' or 'driving', so really, he had no input whatsoever. My mate said he hated doing the work as he was having to make style/design decisions that he usually would leave to the customer and that he felt his reputation was on the line if he got them wrong. He told me when he finished, he phoned the PA to tell him that the work was done. The PA told him he would be wired the rest of the payment later in the week (Scholes wrote a cheque while he waited). Two complete opposites. One genuinely nice guy trying to live an ordinary life and another with a massive superiority complex. Yet we all know who's the more respected footballer round the world. Bet he got paid a fair whack for it....So what...Get on with it and stop yr whining....At least he has a job..... Yep, I bet he did. I never asked him though. Not my place. The point I was making was that the two players are worlds apart. From what I gathered, it was as if Nani had a real superiority complex and couldn't bear the thought of spending time in his house while some scummy working class kitchen fitter was there. It's about perception I guess. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 3, 2013 14:53:36 GMT
Kenwyne Jones Just sod off Kenwyne, u are not a loyal Stoke bloke, just go please Of all the things that could piss you off, you choose Kenwynne Jones as the worst?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 14:53:40 GMT
Money.
The second a youth team player signs a first team deal (in the Prem at least) he's almost an instant millionaire. Where his motivation then?
There's never been more money in the game. Sponsors, advertising, tv deals - it all keeps going up yet the prices they charge the lifeblood of the game, keep going up too.
It has reached the point where genuine, hard working fans are getting priced out of following their team. The pricing isn't a necessity to the clubs, it's just greed and it has spiralled out of control.
It's criminal the costs involved these days. Especially when a more feasible system exists in Europe in the Bundesliga. Their game has hardly suffered as a result of cheaper ticket prices, has it?
Attendances going through the roof and the quality of the teams following suit.
The FA should be embarased. Charging fans £40 or £50 for a match day ticket is scandalous. As is charging them the same amount for a replica top that probablt costs £1 or £2 to produce.
The fans are treated with nothing but contempt but the game wouldn't exist without us.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 3, 2013 14:54:28 GMT
All the arguing and disrespect shown for the referee. Of course the referee will get some things wrong, but surrounding him and calling for others to be sent off etc is wrong, as is diving and appealing for the decision to go your way when it is blatantly obvious that the decision should be the other way. Football never used to be like this and rugby has so far managed to avoid going in that direction.
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Post by jaybee on Jun 3, 2013 15:01:59 GMT
Louis Sewerage Other cheats as well "he invited the foul" (i.e. he dived) 'Big Club' bias - unlevel playing field Corporate nonsense when folks really don't want to watch the game 'Playing football the right way'  |
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Post by zigazaga on Jun 3, 2013 16:11:20 GMT
The deafening music at the ground.
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Jun 3, 2013 16:25:44 GMT
when clubs sack their most successful manager ever   |
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Jun 3, 2013 16:27:19 GMT
when clubs sack their most successful manager ever |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 3, 2013 16:39:00 GMT
The general attitude of some players, when it comes to things outside of football. Let me give you an example: A mate of mine is a professional kitchen fitter/designer. He does bespoke/custom kitchens so they're a bit more fancy than your ordinary B&Q special. Anyway, he has an excellent reputation and a few years ago started fitting larger, fancier kitchens for very wealthy people round Alderley Edge, Wilmslow etc. One day, he got a phone call from Paul Scholes asking him if he was willing to fit a kitchen for him. Obviously he agreed. He turned up to the house and was amazed at what a normal guy he is. Scholes always opened the door in the morning for him, was very welcoming, offered to make him a brew everyday, asked my mate for advice on the style of kitchen (valued his opinion), was very friendly and was in no way awkward round him. He also lives a very ordinary lifestyle, picks his kids up from school everyday, goes the shops himself etc. Just a very normal bloke in all. My mate felt quite comfortable talking to him in general and they chatted about various subjects such as their kids etc. A few months later, he got a phone call from Nani's 'personal assistant'(?) asking if he could fit a kitchen for him too. He obviously agreed but what he experienced was a total contrast. He arrived on the first day to be greeted by Nani's personal assistant. He was told that he must NOT go in the house when/if Nani was there and was to wait outside if Nani returned home for whatever reason (he never did). He was under strict instruction that if Nani's car was parked in the driveway when he arrived in the morning, he was to turn round and go home. My mate explained that he would need to ask for some customer input, as the style of kitchen is somewhat a subjective thing, driven by taste... The PA gave him a kitchen magazine with a page circled with a biro. He was told to 'replicate that as close as possible'. He was given a mobile phone number to contact the PA and most days he was in the house on his own, all day! The PA was apparently quite unpleasant and would fob him off after 30 seconds on the phone with excuses like he couldn't talk because he was 'late for a meeting' or 'driving', so really, he had no input whatsoever. My mate said he hated doing the work as he was having to make style/design decisions that he usually would leave to the customer and that he felt his reputation was on the line if he got them wrong. He told me when he finished, he phoned the PA to tell him that the work was done. The PA told him he would be wired the rest of the payment later in the week (Scholes wrote a cheque while he waited). Two complete opposites. One genuinely nice guy trying to live an ordinary life and another with a massive superiority complex. Yet we all know who's the more respected footballer round the world. Bet he got paid a fair whack for it....So what...Get on with it and stop yr whining....At least he has a job..... How to miss a point, steps one, two, three. |
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Jun 3, 2013 17:12:23 GMT
Money. The second a youth team player signs a first team deal (in the Prem at least) he's almost an instant millionaire. Where his motivation then? There's never been more money in the game. Sponsors, advertising, tv deals - it all keeps going up yet the prices they charge the lifeblood of the game, keep going up too. It has reached the point where genuine, hard working fans are getting priced out of following their team. The pricing isn't a necessity to the clubs, it's just greed and it has spiralled out of control. It's criminal the costs involved these days. Especially when a more feasible system exists in Europe in the Bundesliga. Their game has hardly suffered as a result of cheaper ticket prices, has it? Attendances going through the roof and the quality of the teams following suit. The FA should be embarased. Charging fans £40 or £50 for a match day ticket is scandalous. As is charging them the same amount for a replica top that probablt costs £1 or £2 to produce. The fans are treated with nothing but contempt but the game wouldn't exist without us. Exactly what I was going to put, only better. The FA themselves are the worst culprits. I couldn't believe it when tickets in the exact same part of the ground went up by £30 from the semi-final to the final! Cunts. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 3, 2013 17:18:22 GMT
Think the wages in football have gone mad! There really should be a wage cap system that I think would make the leagues more interesting. The top earners at a club should not be allowed to earn more than £50 000 per week! Let's say every club could have 3 top earners, the next 3 could earn £45 000 per week, the next 3 could then earn £40 000 and so on. In the PL all the players could be paid more than £20 000 pounds. In this way you could earn more money for a mid-table club than an expected top club and it all would be so much more unpredictable and interesting. In the Championship a top earner shouldn't earn more than £15 000 per week, in league one maybe around £8000 per week and in league two around £5000 per week. All leagues with a maximum of three top earners. I guess the big clubs will see to it that this never happens, but how interesting it could be!  |
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Post by BristolMick on Jun 3, 2013 18:12:10 GMT
Negative Hoofball.
No Terraces for those who stand and block the view of those who want or who have to sit.
Extortionate Ticket Prices.
Season Tickets going on sale before the previous season has finished.
Gloryhunters.
The FA caving in to every demand that the big clubs make which has ensured that they now have a monopoly on competing for the title.
An England team that will never win anything thanks to the above.
The main thing I like about football compared to how it used to be is that the atmosphere around grounds on a match day is far more chilled and relaxed and fans of opposition clubs happily mix and drink together.
BM
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Jun 3, 2013 19:00:37 GMT
The Premier league.
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Post by nuketown on Jun 3, 2013 20:18:45 GMT
talk sport shite)
sergio ramos (twat)
the clammer for andy carroll for england.....really?
the press constantly pulling themselves off over mourhino
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Post by Bagwash on Jun 4, 2013 4:23:30 GMT
Cheating(diving,feigning injury)
Gloryhunters
Big name bias(watch Man Utd get there comeuppance now that Fergie has gone)
Premier League players wages(vastly overpaid)
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Post by bristolpotter on Jun 4, 2013 4:42:46 GMT
Ticket prices
All seater stadiums
Plastic new age fans - swaths of these at Southampton, Reading, Norwich etc, cringy
The Brit - soulless cesspit that took a great club away from it's community and rightful domain.
Man Utd fans - epitome of everything that is wrong with the modern game, legions of legends in their own dinnertimes from Cardiff, Plymouth, Northampton, Cornwall etc latching onto something that doesn't belong to them, spineless fuckers who only know success and think buying the latest regalia make's you a fan.
Sky Sports hype of the Premiership - best league in the world, do me a favour!!
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Post by blackpoolred on Jun 4, 2013 5:45:55 GMT
1. Top of the list has to be diving and cheating, now seems to be an accepted part of the game.
2. Over pampered, Over paid, Over rated players.
3. Ridiculous obsession with employing mediocre English managers for our national team, just becauase they are English - we should always
go for world class - it's about to cost us again.
4. Having to sit down at football matches - I am not going to buy another season ticket until this changes.
5. Want to go back to Division 1, 2, 3, 4 naming standards, instead of this Premier shite(which is a French word) and Dandelion and burdock
championship
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Post by stokebloke on Jun 4, 2013 8:45:07 GMT
the obscene amounts of money that mediocre players get paid.
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Post by adri2008 on Jun 4, 2013 8:49:46 GMT
The ridiculous money involved in the game. Alot of the country is struggling for money right now - meanwhile teams are paying millions for a bloke (often arrogant and thick as pig shit) to kick a ball around. If I wasn't hooked on Stoke, I probably wouldn't bother with the sport at all
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Post by ihaveadream on Jun 4, 2013 16:16:12 GMT
5. Want to go back to Division 1, 2, 3, 4 naming standards, instead of this Premier shite(which is a French word) and Dandelion and burdock championship Wouldn't it then be Premiership Merde |
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Post by stokeyank on Jun 4, 2013 16:38:58 GMT
Lack of a wage cap is the worst, followed closely by the diving/cheating.
I would never begrudge someone for earning all the money someone offered, but if the wages were capped, the money would still be coming in (from sponsors, tv rights, etc.) and ticket prices could be lower. That is what is called a win-win.
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