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Post by Stretfordpotterer on May 22, 2013 13:24:29 GMT
As much as Hughes made a right royal fuck up at QPR, and as much as i don't like him. His league records at Fulham and Blackburn suggest that his teams, on similar budgets, get more points and score more goals than Pulis' Stoke. He managed 4 top ten and above finishes with them! and got past 50 points a few times. Blackburn is his only success, crest of a wave. Media onside and all important momentum. He inherited a Hodgson team at Fulham, Woy's teams run themselves. Look at the ease in which Clarke has kept WBA ticking. ah come on, a manager can just as easily fuck up a solid position as continue it. Like i said, i'd be pretty miffed if it was Hughes, but entirely on personality grounds. If it was him you might hope that his experience at QPR had humbled him slightly, probably not though. as i have said though, he is PC's choice, but JC will have chance to land his "young and vibrant" manager first.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 22, 2013 13:41:46 GMT
That's it then Hughes nailed on next stoke manager
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Post by rambob on May 22, 2013 13:52:25 GMT
I will personally shove my season ticket up petes arse if he appoints Hughes.
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Post by chell_rosey on May 22, 2013 14:06:28 GMT
I would be singularly unimpressed if Hughes were appointed. It's looked the ideal for Rafa all along too.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 22, 2013 14:36:13 GMT
As much as Hughes made a right royal fuck up at QPR, and as much as i don't like him. His league records at Fulham and Blackburn suggest that his teams, on similar budgets, get more points and score more goals than Pulis' Stoke. He managed 4 top ten and above finishes with them! and got past 50 points a few times. Blackburn is his only success, crest of a wave. Media onside and all important momentum. He inherited a Hodgson team at Fulham, Woy's teams run themselves. Look at the ease in which Clarke has kept WBA ticking. I think that's terribly harsh on him to suggest that. He did really well at Blackburn, a superb job with Wales, did well at Man City (all things considered) and to dismiss what he achieved at Fulham as being down to Hodgson is very tough on him indeed. I think is record is pretty good, actually. For a manager to come straight in and successfully manage a national team at the age of 36 speaks volumes to me. QPR is the only blot on his copybook. You'd do well to find a manager to come to Stoke with a blemish free CV.
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Post by bill on May 22, 2013 15:32:40 GMT
Omg you poor buggers :-( Mark Hughes Will ruin your club, the most clueless useless twat ever to run a football club and together with his sidekick agent jochim robbing your club sorry folks you are f****d STAND TOGETHER OR YOU WILL BE RUINED be warned
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 15:36:42 GMT
Blackburn is his only success, crest of a wave. Media onside and all important momentum. He inherited a Hodgson team at Fulham, Woy's teams run themselves. Look at the ease in which Clarke has kept WBA ticking. I think that's terribly harsh on him to suggest that. He did really well at Blackburn, a superb job with Wales, did well at Man City (all things considered) and to dismiss what he achieved at Fulham as being down to Hodgson is very tough on him indeed. I think is record is pretty good, actually. For a manager to come straight in and successfully manage a national team at the age of 36 speaks volumes to me. QPR is the only blot on his copybook. You'd do well to find a manager to come to Stoke with a blemish free CV. spot on jamo getting a bit tired of pointing this out now but if we only employed managers who were successful or didn't have any kind of tarnished record with their previous clubs we'd NEVER EVER IN A MONTH OF SUNDAYS have appointed Pulis in the first place staggering to see some of the names bandied about being dismissed so readily when we just had a manager who got us to the Prem, FA Cup final etc. etc. after achieving basically nothing at any of his previous clubs (apart from one lower league promotion) and was sacked by some of them for misconduct!!!!
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Post by bertiestan on May 22, 2013 15:43:34 GMT
Omg you poor buggers :-( Mark Hughes Will ruin your club, the most clueless useless twat ever to run a football club and together with his sidekick agent jochim robbing your club sorry folks you are f****d STAND TOGETHER OR YOU WILL BE RUINED be warned Fuckin hell bill, not a fan?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 15:45:05 GMT
Omg you poor buggers :-( Mark Hughes Will ruin your club, the most clueless useless twat ever to run a football club and together with his sidekick agent jochim robbing your club sorry folks you are f****d STAND TOGETHER OR YOU WILL BE RUINED be warned Fuckin hell bill, not a fan? TP's just joined up to the Oatie
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Post by bertiestan on May 22, 2013 15:52:28 GMT
Fuckin hell bill, not a fan? TP's just joined up to the Oatie hahahahaha still bitter tone?
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Post by thesandbankskid on May 22, 2013 15:58:55 GMT
Omg you poor buggers :-( Mark Hughes Will ruin your club, the most clueless useless twat ever to run a football club and together with his sidekick agent jochim robbing your club sorry folks you are f****d STAND TOGETHER OR YOU WILL BE RUINED be warned The QPR clowns on your board ruined your chances Bill, not Mark Hughes.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 22, 2013 16:24:10 GMT
Omg you poor buggers :-( Mark Hughes Will ruin your club, the most clueless useless twat ever to run a football club and together with his sidekick agent jochim robbing your club sorry folks you are f****d STAND TOGETHER OR YOU WILL BE RUINED be warned The QPR clowns on your board ruined your chances Bill, not Mark Hughes. Indeed. I wasn't aware that Mark Hughes signed off the contracts. For the talk, good old floppy chops took them over with 26 games to go and got less than a point a game. Does Redknapp get any stick? That Samba deal looks great value.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 22, 2013 16:27:07 GMT
ABH!
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Post by The battheader chronicles on May 22, 2013 16:54:26 GMT
The fact that Coates has said he wants to go in a different direction rules out Hughes surely
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Post by cartman123 on May 22, 2013 16:59:06 GMT
The QPR clowns on your board ruined your chances Bill, not Mark Hughes. Indeed. I wasn't aware that Mark Hughes signed off the contracts. For the talk, good old floppy chops took them over with 26 games to go and got less than a point a game. Does Redknapp get any stick? That Samba deal looks great value. So is it not the chairman's fault when Redknapps in charge? Mark Hughes would be a fucking disaster. I hope we stay well clear.
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Post by iamcliveclarke on May 22, 2013 17:07:51 GMT
One word NO
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Post by onlyonesirstan on May 22, 2013 17:09:35 GMT
Three words
No thank you
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 22, 2013 17:14:12 GMT
Another five
He's really not that bad!
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Post by RichardTMP on May 22, 2013 17:15:26 GMT
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Post by Banega23 on May 22, 2013 17:17:25 GMT
The QPR clowns on your board ruined your chances Bill, not Mark Hughes. Indeed. I wasn't aware that Mark Hughes signed off the contracts. For the talk, good old floppy chops took them over with 26 games to go and got less than a point a game. Does Redknapp get any stick? That Samba deal looks great value. not sure why youre attacking this poster so much. Hughes is fucking wank and his only success has been getting the media to fully back him and hype him up in spite of him being devoid of tactical ability and understanding. Dont see how him warning us warrants all the hate
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 17:18:27 GMT
Indeed. I wasn't aware that Mark Hughes signed off the contracts. For the talk, good old floppy chops took them over with 26 games to go and got less than a point a game. Does Redknapp get any stick? That Samba deal looks great value. not sure why youre attacking this poster so much. Hughes is fucking wank and his only success has been getting the media to fully back him and hype him up in spite of him being devoid of tactical ability and understanding. Dont see how him warning us warrants all the hate Plus, you know, all those top 10 finishes.
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Post by moult50 on May 22, 2013 17:22:28 GMT
NO, NO PLEASE GOD NO.
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Post by march4 on May 22, 2013 17:25:30 GMT
Compared to di Matteo, Poyez and Martinez, Hughes is head and shoulders better.
Is Hughes better than TP? That's open to debate.
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Post by YounginStoke on May 22, 2013 17:29:50 GMT
Compared to di Matteo, Poyez and Martinez, Hughes is head and shoulders better. Is Hughes better than TP? That's open to debate. I only disagree with di Matteo on that, with the right backrrom staff and he would be willing to work under the new management structure like he did at west brom with Dan ashworth he could really thrive here
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Post by Banega23 on May 22, 2013 17:33:20 GMT
not sure why youre attacking this poster so much. Hughes is fucking wank and his only success has been getting the media to fully back him and hype him up in spite of him being devoid of tactical ability and understanding. Dont see how him warning us warrants all the hate Plus, you know, all those top 10 finishes. he was managing at a time of Ian dowie, graham souness, gareth southgate, bryan robson, roy keane, tony mowbray, Mark Curbishley, Gary Megson etc etc. where are they now? football has moved on massively since 2004-2008, where you could have a bad manager and still achieve a decent position. Whereas in 2013, if youve got a manager who seriously neglects tactics and theory (Rednapp, Pulis, Pardew, O'Neil), your team could easily be in serious trouble. Chairman are more clued up now and make much more progressive appointments. Hughes wont cut it anymore im afraid, and neither will any of those other anachronistic British managers, who all thrived on one another being so bad.
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Post by march4 on May 22, 2013 17:33:58 GMT
Compared to di Matteo, Poyez and Martinez, Hughes is head and shoulders better. Is Hughes better than TP? That's open to debate. I only disagree with di Matteo on that, with the right backrrom staff and he would be willing to work under the new management structure like he did at west brom with Dan ashworth he could really thrive here Good managers are able to turn things around when their club has a bad run of form. When Brazil hit a bad patch di Matteo didn't have a clue what to do, the club went into a rapid nosedive over a period of 10 games. They sacked him before it got even worse. There is a reason why this man has only been temporary manager of Chelsea ever since. And before someone mentions his record at Chelsea, the Chuckle Bros could do a job there with their players.
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Post by Banega23 on May 22, 2013 17:37:35 GMT
Compared to di Matteo, Poyez and Martinez, Hughes is head and shoulders better. Is Hughes better than TP? That's open to debate. based on what exactly?
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Post by robwahlmann on May 22, 2013 17:40:06 GMT
If Hughes is a possible new manager of SCFC I really can't see why we got rid of TP? Doesn't his teams play just as boring and defensively? No, he is certainly not one I would go for, but rather him than Poyet and RDM!
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Post by YounginStoke on May 22, 2013 17:43:24 GMT
I only disagree with di Matteo on that, with the right backrrom staff and he would be willing to work under the new management structure like he did at west brom with Dan ashworth he could really thrive here Good managers are able to turn things around when their club has a bad run of form. When Brazil hit a bad patch di Matteo didn't have a clue what to do, the club went into a rapid nosedive over a period of 10 games. They sacked him before it got even worse. There is a reason why this man has only been temporary manager of Chelsea ever since. And before someone mentions his record at Chelsea, the Chuckle Bros could do a job there with their players. Di Matteo only had a bad spell simple it wasnt a whole bad job e.g. Hughes at QPR, he was still relatively inexperienced then so he would of learnt from that Also yeah mostly anyone could of with then players, but it has given him some invaluable experience managing a top four side, not a lot of managers can say they have Also at a plus he has good contacts within the game and its not a huge change of style which would happen under martinez for example
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 17:46:15 GMT
Plus, you know, all those top 10 finishes. he was managing at a time of Ian dowie, graham souness, gareth southgate, bryan robson, roy keane, tony mowbray, Mark Curbishley, Gary Megson etc etc. where are they now? football has moved on massively since 2004-2008, where you could have a bad manager and still achieve a decent position. Whereas in 2013, if youve got a manager who seriously neglects tactics and theory (Rednapp, Pulis, Pardew, O'Neil), your team could easily be in serious trouble. Chairman are more clued up now and make much more progressive appointments. Hughes wont cut it anymore im afraid, and neither will any of those other anachronistic British managers, who all thrived on one another being so bad. Would this be the Pardew who finished fifth last year? But it was only back in the day you could have a bad manager and do well? Incidentally, Hughes' last top 10 finish was in 2011. Don't think I could warm to Hughes though for all that. Hard to see him climbing mountains for charity.
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