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Post by lordb on May 19, 2013 18:03:27 GMT
Norwich have been - under Hughton - every bit as boring as TP's Stoke or O'Neill's Sunderland
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Post by bloggsy on May 19, 2013 18:03:33 GMT
I don't why Charlton went down. But with Wolves and Blackburn the management change was the least of their problems. They were and are both a complete shambles at boardroom level. And whoever was their manager they were bound to fuck it up. Blackburn didnt change their manager and still went down!
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Post by Sammz on May 19, 2013 18:03:44 GMT
Why do these rimmers mention Wolves and Blackburn? What about Swansea and Norwich? Let's see how Swansea & Norwich are doing in six seasons time...
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Post by NG4POTTERS on May 19, 2013 18:04:59 GMT
No need to apologise mate. Just a bit of panic set in when i read it. Silly of me really! Nottingham is a big city.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2013 18:05:36 GMT
I don't why Charlton went down. But with Wolves and Blackburn the management change was the least of their problems. They were and are both a complete shambles at boardroom level. And whoever was their manager they were bound to fuck it up. Blackburn didnt change their manager and still went down! Sam Allardyce says they did.
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Post by march4 on May 19, 2013 18:07:04 GMT
I don't why Charlton went down. But with Wolves and Blackburn the management change was the least of their problems. They were and are both a complete shambles at boardroom level. And whoever was their manager they were bound to fuck it up. Blackburn didnt change their manager and still went down! Mrs Venky didn't like Big Sam's style of play and sacked him. The rest is history.
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Post by bloggsy on May 19, 2013 18:08:51 GMT
Blackburn didnt change their manager and still went down! Sam Allardyce says they did. Sam left on 13/12/2010
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Post by march4 on May 19, 2013 18:11:37 GMT
Sam Allardyce says they did. Sam left on 13/12/2010 2 months after Venky's joined. This led to Blackburn's demise
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Post by lordb on May 19, 2013 18:13:45 GMT
2 months after Venky's joined. This led to Blackburn's demise as 999.99% of Blackburn fans will surely tell you to be fair getting rid of TP is one thing,the sheer chaos of Venkys @ Rovers is another
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Post by bloggsy on May 19, 2013 18:14:26 GMT
2 months after Venky's joined. This led to Blackburn's demise But it wasnt the season they changed their manager.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 19, 2013 18:18:01 GMT
I think Blackburn would have gone down anyway under that lot.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on May 19, 2013 18:19:11 GMT
Why do these rimmers mention Wolves and Blackburn? What about Swansea and Norwich? Let's see how Swansea & Norwich are doing in six seasons time... Let's make sure Pulis has a similar amount of cash to blow that they will have and see where we are. On second thoughts lets not because it would be disastrous. Lets just build a Premier League football club with a long term base of sustainability. Lets get a Premier League manager.
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Post by stokie25 on May 19, 2013 18:21:59 GMT
He wants to be careful taking the piss out of fans...who told him he was indispensable? I'm still hopeful that the SCFC board aren't succumbing to the bullshit he spouts and have a 'footballing' brain amongst them. Coates may be his biggest fan but at the rate this season has gone, this time next year, he may be his only fan!
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Post by thesandbankskid on May 19, 2013 18:22:48 GMT
It would have to be a pretty shit managerial appointment to see this Stoke Squad relegated, we have the foundation of a good team imo we just need certain quality players in certain positions and a manager with more nouse and match ambition.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2013 18:23:24 GMT
Sam Allardyce says they did. Sam left on 13/12/2010 And the manager who replaced him took them down.
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Post by march4 on May 19, 2013 18:30:23 GMT
Sorry guys, I was being a pedant over Blackburn.
I don't think it has much parallel with us.
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Post by Ellan Vannin on May 19, 2013 18:31:32 GMT
And the manager who replaced him took them down. The season after he was appointed. He probably wasn't a good appointment but with all the other sh*t that was going on any manager was going to struggle Stability at a club is more than just the same manager year after year. A club can have stability if it has good structures and good people in executive management positions that are there whatever managers come and go. Fulham have had a fair few managers come and go but are still in the Premeirship. OK Alfayed bankrolled them up but they don't spend megabucks to stay there
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Post by ohbottom on May 19, 2013 18:35:26 GMT
And the manager who replaced him took them down. Proof positive: if you change manager you will absolutely 100% be relegated some time later. It might be years later, it might be straight away. But it's a well known fact that every team that has changed manager has been relegated - eventually. Except Arsenal. I really fucking hate this stupid stupid argument that keeps getting rolled out.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 19, 2013 18:41:47 GMT
Peter is retiring! The revolution is afoot! He said "Peter is retiring AS WELL". Did he mean Owen or himself?
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Post by march4 on May 19, 2013 19:04:46 GMT
Peter is retiring! The revolution is afoot! He said "Peter is retiring AS WELL". Did he mean Owen or himself? He was being sarcastic, mate.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 19, 2013 19:08:57 GMT
He said "Peter is retiring AS WELL". Did he mean Owen or himself? He was being sarcastic, mate. He must be very dry, March! Liked how he got the comparison in with the Waddington era, too. Was he being serious then?
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Post by lordb on May 19, 2013 19:21:35 GMT
He wants to be careful taking the piss out of fans...who told him he was indispensable? I'm still hopeful that the SCFC board aren't succumbing to the bullshit he spouts and have a 'footballing' brain amongst them. Coates may be his biggest fan but at the rate this season has gone, this time next year, he may be his only fan! its the press he was taking the piss out of he was especially pissed at one particular report re pigheadgates & KJ
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 19, 2013 19:22:32 GMT
Was he asked why there was no KJ in the squad? I missed the interview.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 19, 2013 19:30:00 GMT
Was he asked why there was no KJ in the squad? I missed the interview. He said something about the situation with Jones and Whelan being a distraction. Think he meant they'd been bollocked, but he also slated a journalist(Patrick Collins from The Mail?). I do think it has been blown up a tad.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 19, 2013 19:31:47 GMT
Was he asked why there was no KJ in the squad? I missed the interview. He said something about the situation with Jones and Whelan being a distraction. Think he meant they'd been bollocked, but he also slated a journalist(Patrick Collins from The Mail?). I do think it has been blown up a tad. I think it's a complete non-story myself and agree with TP bollocking that cunt from the Mail.
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Post by AlliG on May 19, 2013 20:00:46 GMT
He said something about the situation with Jones and Whelan being a distraction. Think he meant they'd been bollocked, but he also slated a journalist(Patrick Collins from The Mail?). I do think it has been blown up a tad. I think it's a complete non-story myself and agree with TP bollocking that cunt from the Mail. Patrick Collins is always looking for an opportunity to slag off Stoke in general and Tony Pulis in particular and he appeared to consider that all his Christmases had come at once. Once again hes has printed his version of what he thinks TP might have said and once again like the last time he printed a load of B*S* I expect to see a tiny one line apology in a couple of weeks hidden away.
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Post by Sammz on May 19, 2013 20:59:07 GMT
Let's see how Swansea & Norwich are doing in six seasons time... Let's make sure Pulis has a similar amount of cash to blow that they will have and see where we are. On second thoughts lets not because it would be disastrous. Lets just build a Premier League football club with a long term base of sustainability. Lets get a Premier League manager. Yes let's do that 2nd thing as well.
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Post by johnsmithsupper on May 19, 2013 21:38:56 GMT
I'm afraid lads I've had to have a bit of a rant about why I don't fill with enthusiasm going to watch us anymore on knot fm tonight.
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Post by elystokie on May 20, 2013 7:08:05 GMT
Norwich have been - under Hughton - every bit as boring as TP's Stoke or O'Neill's Sunderland I haven't checked the stats - are they bottom of the goals scored/chances created/passes completed/shots on goal etc. league tables alongside us? Or are you basing your assumption on catching bits of their games now and then?
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 20, 2013 8:08:51 GMT
Norwich have been - under Hughton - every bit as boring as TP's Stoke or O'Neill's Sunderland I haven't checked the stats - are they bottom of the goals scored/chances created/passes completed/shots on goal etc. league tables alongside us? Or are you basing your assumption on catching bits of their games now and then? With the squad they have Hughtons done very well. Other than the 2 wingers I wouldn't have any of there players in our team yet they finished above us. I'd say he's done a good job.
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