moortownpotter
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Hope is a gun, that you load everyday. As the chamber is spun, you bite down on the steel and pray.
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Post by moortownpotter on Nov 19, 2012 21:43:32 GMT
Crouch has looked poor tonight - sometimes a game cries out for jones's physicality. What's the man got to do to have a decent run out?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 21:46:24 GMT
first reason is we started with two injured players as pulis only trusts a select few, second because in Jones case unlike say walters or crouch its not about form or performance .
I agree by the way he should be starting instead of crouch the most unecessary £!8million transfer in the history of the premier league
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 19, 2012 21:50:00 GMT
Because he a) isn't crouch or b) isn't Walters.
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niel
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Post by niel on Nov 19, 2012 21:51:27 GMT
You forgot ....c) he's shit and has been for a year and a half......
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 21:52:48 GMT
how do you know he hasnt had 62 consecutive chances which it takes to judge a player
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Post by funkyphantom on Nov 19, 2012 21:53:44 GMT
Were you guys not watching the game? Jones didn't come on because he had to replace Wilkinson :/
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Post by sportsman on Nov 19, 2012 21:54:51 GMT
Crouch win everything in defence and was a handful up front. Well plated crouchie. Jones your time will come
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 21:54:53 GMT
That's what happens when you play 70% fit players! We used two subs because pulis doesn't like using his squad for some reason! Crouch worst player on the pitch tonight by far and managed play 90mins
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 19, 2012 21:54:58 GMT
You forgot ....c) he's shit and has been for a year and a half...... And you know that how?
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Post by BuzzB on Nov 19, 2012 21:55:22 GMT
You forgot ....c) he's shit and has been for a year and a half...... thats bollocks, with respect he deserves a start.
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niel
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Post by niel on Nov 19, 2012 21:55:54 GMT
You forgot ....c) he's shit and has been for a year and a half...... And you know that how? I have eyes.....
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Post by redwhite on Nov 19, 2012 21:56:00 GMT
Yep I agree. Would've liked to see Jerome myself, it would seem to make sense to bring on a guy with some actual pace and a knack of scoring off the bench.
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moortownpotter
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Post by moortownpotter on Nov 19, 2012 21:56:26 GMT
Crouch was not a handful up front! Won headers defensively but jones does that very well too!
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 19, 2012 21:56:42 GMT
Baffling, to say the least. If he wasn't going to play a significant chunk of tonight's game, he never will.
Crouchy won a lot of defensie headers - but it was absolutely crying out for Jones in the second half, and he'd have been equally good defending our own box.
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Nov 19, 2012 21:57:53 GMT
Crouch played well tonight. He must of won about 12-15 headers defensively . Also our Jonathan had a cracker tonight. Chuffed to bits with the point.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 19, 2012 21:57:55 GMT
And obviously an agenda, fair enough.
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Post by borat on Nov 19, 2012 21:59:00 GMT
I like Crouchy but my god he was shocking again tonight, worst player on the pitch and he's been poor 4/5 games on the trot now. I would have had Jones on after 60 mins.
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Post by ohbottom on Nov 19, 2012 22:02:31 GMT
Do you have those mystical eyes which can see how good a player is even if he's not on the pitch?
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Post by funkyphantom on Nov 19, 2012 22:03:33 GMT
I'm sure you guys want to change the rules of football and have 4 subs :/
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Post by Caddick988 on Nov 19, 2012 22:07:11 GMT
Like many have already said. Thought Crouchie did a great job defensively, helped us clear our lines well. But he really isn't mobile enough. I know it's a lot to ask for but we need someone who is as physical as Diame leading our line, who's able to win lots in the air, stretch defences and run the channels.
Crouch simply doesn't offer us this. And the way we're playing at the moment, we don't build our attacks well enough, to camp our fullbacks in the opposition half and cross the ball in for Crouchie to try and get of the end of.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 22:07:37 GMT
why do you think we brought crouch in the first place?kj just wasnt doing it for us. having said that i would like to see him coming on in the last 30 mins to have a run at tired legs?
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Post by stokesaint1 on Nov 19, 2012 22:07:40 GMT
Crouch defended well but surely his main job has to be in the other box, where apparently he only touched the ball three times in the whole game.
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Post by jarhead on Nov 19, 2012 22:12:31 GMT
What is the point of naming a 25 man squad with this prick when he only uses 15 and when they are injured!
Crouch was horrendous and wasted in this set up because he has no pace or movement and was so isolated again it was shocking to see!!!
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 19, 2012 22:14:05 GMT
why do you think we brought crouch in the first place?kj just wasnt doing it for us. You really believe that
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niel
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Post by niel on Nov 19, 2012 22:14:52 GMT
And obviously an agenda, fair enough. No agenda....just an opinion.......I genuinely can't remember a game ( not many in the last year I agree ) where he looked up to the game or even half bothered. Whilst Crouch may not be he attacking threat we need but his contribution is limited by the 4-5-1 philosophy........I am convinced that neither is Jones. For me I would much rather see Jerome any day than Jones......just my opinion though
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 19, 2012 22:16:35 GMT
It says a lot when we have ONE true "striker" in the team and we are praising him for winning a lot of defensive headers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 22:19:03 GMT
why do you think we brought crouch in the first place?kj just wasnt doing it for us. having said that i would like to see him coming on in the last 30 mins to have a run at tired legs? That is frankly ludicrous. The only thing Jones did wrong was to not be Peter Crouch. Since Crouch has arrived, Jones has been playing second fiddle, more lately to a bloke that simply doesn't fit the system. I'm starting to rue the day Pulis got his hard-on for Crouch, because since that day we have regressed as an attacking force. Kenwyne lacked a little aggression at times; but to play the role of lone target man, you need decent pace, physicality, and aggression, or at least two of those three elements. I'd say KJ has two of those three, Crouch has none.
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 19, 2012 22:28:34 GMT
Crouch win everything in defence and was a handful up front. Well plated crouchie. Jones your time will come I was watching a different game. In the game I watched Peter Crouch headed a few corners away in defence and offered absolutely the sum total of sweet fanny adams in attack. Someone needs to tell him we paly in stripes. Peter Crouch's form over the last 3 or 4 games has made Mama Sidibe look like a really big loss to our first team.
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Nov 19, 2012 22:29:49 GMT
As soon as Wilko went our sub options were limited as they often were last season for a variety of reasons.
As WH found their momentum second half it was our midfield that had to be bolstered. Jones was never going to get a look in. It was tactics not a vendetta against Jones - who i think should be given a couple of starts btw.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 19, 2012 22:34:43 GMT
Crouchy just isn't mobile enough to play so far up on his own he try's to juggle the ball and hold it up but it never leads to anything. kJ has to start V Fulham especially with Hangelaand out.
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