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Post by takeshikovacs on Sept 16, 2012 11:39:08 GMT
But isn't there more cash available to clubs next season?
I'm really pleased with this window. For a while, I've been saying that midfield has been our problem, in terms of creativity and also in terms of comfort / ability on the ball. Now in Adam and Fonzi, it seems we have bought two calibre players.
Regarding Fonzi, I only managed to catch the last 10 mins when Stoke were largely under the cosh, so I didn't see much of a contribution from Fonzi, but I guess everyone on this thread can't be wrong (unless it's an example of mass hysteria / group think) so I'm very hopeful that he'll play a massive role this season.
Things are starting to turn?
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 16, 2012 11:48:14 GMT
Pulis has made a couple of excellent purchases in N'Zonzi and Adam for modest fees, but long term he's going to have to keep doing that every summer as the older legs in the squad gradually need replacing and spending money remains limited. The next couple of years are going to be about shedding some of the big wages clogging up the squad, so I think even the 10m we spent this summer might be more than we see in the future. However, in Begovic, Shawcross, Huth, Adam and N'Zonzi we now have 5 top quality players all in their mid 20s, who should act as a consistent spine to the team while other players (the likes of Ethers, Whitehead etc) are gradually moved on. Pulis has done some good business this summer. In short then, no. Quite the opposite. I thought we played really well yesterday and the additions we've made should hopefully see us back to our best. I'm far more hopeful of a good season than I was a few weeks ago.
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 16, 2012 11:48:53 GMT
He showed that you can offer the defensive qualities that Pulis looks for AND offer something offensively aswell. Calm, combative and willing to get forward when required. Great start, hope he and Adam play like that consistently - if they do, we have definitely turned a corner.
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 16, 2012 11:51:41 GMT
In short then, no. Quite the opposite. I thought we played really well yesterday and the additions we've made should hopefully see us back to our best. I'm far more hopeful of a good season than I was a few weeks ago. I was just being an arse. Good stuff. I hope it's not a false dawn. The test will be v the Swanseas and WBAs of the league. We need to lay down a marker r two. A nice 3 4 or even 5 goal win would do the job.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 16, 2012 12:03:16 GMT
Why is he not in the French team?
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Post by Squeekster on Sept 16, 2012 12:15:56 GMT
I disagree that Yaya Toure had a poor game against him. Yaya was their outstanding player again. But it was a great battle between them, and the greatest compliment I can give to 'Fonzi' is that on yesterday's showing, he would slot into that Man City side and not look out of place. A superb performance, and superb players bring out the best in others, which is what he did. OS. Toure was simply brilliant again. If not for Bego he would have deservedly got the winner too. If Nzonzi is half the player Toure is then we will have a top talent on our books. If not for Bego he would have deservedly got the winner too. No one deserved to lose yesterday!
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 16, 2012 12:21:59 GMT
Toure was simply brilliant again. If not for Bego he would have deservedly got the winner too. If Nzonzi is half the player Toure is then we will have a top talent on our books. If not for Bego he would have deservedly got the winner too. No one deserved to lose yesterday! We're all winners!
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Post by Squeekster on Sept 16, 2012 12:25:30 GMT
If not for Bego he would have deservedly got the winner too. No one deserved to lose yesterday! We're all winners! Oh yes.
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Post by onionman on Sept 16, 2012 12:34:00 GMT
Why is he not in the French team? Because he plays for Stoke. ;D
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2012 12:37:34 GMT
Get him in the French national side. A gem.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2012 14:31:17 GMT
Tempted to say calm down everyone,it was just one game,lets judge him after a run of games.
However bollocks to that,what a debut. Fantastic performance,more please.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 16, 2012 16:47:37 GMT
Potentially TP's best use of money since Ryan Shawcross.
Beattie, Ethers and Abdy were great buys but all really had a hint of short term gain about them.
A young player who suits our style of play. One of the best debuts I've seen and nice to see him blend so well with Glen Whelan, who also had a cracking game.
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Post by Godo on Sept 16, 2012 18:53:13 GMT
Looks like an excellent addition - tall, black, fit and can tackle so a Pulis wet dream but actually passes to his own teams mates so just what the rest of us need. A good foil for Adam.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 16, 2012 19:01:04 GMT
Looks like an excellent addition - tall, black, fit and can tackle so a Pulis wet dream but actually passes to his own teams mates so just what the rest of us need. A good foil for Adam. Black? Would he be less good an addition if he were white?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Sept 16, 2012 19:03:50 GMT
Has northstokie finished his article yet as he was suggesting (as we probably could predict after what we saw) that SZ's stats were fantastic.
I said during the game that he'd hardly wasted a pass and when he had it was an attacking low percentage type of pass.
Given he nipped in and won a lot of 50/50's as well as covering loads of ground, you'd imagine his stats would look as impressive as his debut appeared from the stands.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 19:25:59 GMT
I,m really excited about this guy. He looks like a really classy midfielder to me, and if Michael Owen can remain fit and competitive, we are in for an exciting season, irrespective of what happens in the next few games. Looking forward to a very interesting season, and if we get decent draws in the F.A.cup, I may finally get my wish and get to see Stoke win it before I pop my clogs.
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2012 19:28:51 GMT
I,m really excited about this guy. He looks like a really classy midfielder to me, and if Michael Owen can remain fit and competitive, we are in for an exciting season, irrespective of what happens in the next few games. Looking forward to a very interesting season, and if we get decent draws in the F.A.cup, I may finally get my wish and get to see Stoke win it before I pop my clogs.[/quote if Michael Owen can remain fitYou mean IF we can get Michael Owen fit. He had a bigger backside than Dawn French. I suspect he can expect plenty of cross country running over the coming weeks.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 16, 2012 19:38:37 GMT
I hope to god that N'zonzi carries on in the same vein as yesterday. He was superb and will be a younger and hopefully better version of Salif (when he first joined us). I called him as being our best and most exciting summer transfer and his performance yesterday at least justified my excitement about his signing. Fingers crossed he continues with that form. His performance has convinced me that I need to go to Chelsea next weekend!
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2012 19:40:20 GMT
I hope to god that N'zonzi carries on in the same vein as yesterday. He was superb and will be a younger and hopefully better version of Salif (when he first joined us). I called him as being our best and most exciting summer transfer and his performance yesterday at least justified my excitement about his signing. Fingers crossed he continues with that form. His performance has convinced me that I need to go to Chelsea next weekend! I never get excited about debuts after John Tudor, but yesterday was very promising.
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Post by werrington on Sept 16, 2012 19:41:28 GMT
I hope to god that N'zonzi carries on in the same vein as yesterday. He was superb and will be a younger and hopefully better version of Salif (when he first joined us). I called him as being our best and most exciting summer transfer and his performance yesterday at least justified my excitement about his signing. Fingers crossed he continues with that form. His performance has convinced me that I need to go to Chelsea next weekend! I never get excited about debuts after John Tudor, but yesterday was very promising. V Ipswich on MOTD ;D
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2012 19:43:22 GMT
I never get excited about debuts after John Tudor, but yesterday was very promising. V Ipswich on MOTD ;D We didn't win many more games that season after Ipswich, did we?
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Post by werrington on Sept 16, 2012 19:45:19 GMT
We didn't win many more games that season after Ipswich, did we? And John Tudor was shite mate
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Post by werrington on Sept 16, 2012 19:46:17 GMT
I hope to god that N'zonzi carries on in the same vein as yesterday. He was superb and will be a younger and hopefully better version of Salif (when he first joined us). I called him as being our best and most exciting summer transfer and his performance yesterday at least justified my excitement about his signing. Fingers crossed he continues with that form. His performance has convinced me that I need to go to Chelsea next weekend! We giving it a miss dave.....2 swallows dont make a spring just yet mate
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 16, 2012 19:46:43 GMT
Billy Whitehurst had a great debut as well, as did Dave Bamber and Tony Ellis! Hopefully N'zonzi will only get better!
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2012 19:47:04 GMT
We didn't win many more games that season after Ipswich, did we? And John Tudor was shite mate Alleluia
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 16, 2012 19:51:53 GMT
Billy Whitehurst had a great debut as well, as did Dave Bamber and Tony Ellis! Hopefully N'zonzi will only get better! Wasn't Dave Bamber's debut against Citeh too????
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Post by werrington on Sept 16, 2012 19:52:49 GMT
Billy Whitehurst had a great debut as well, as did Dave Bamber and Tony Ellis! Hopefully N'zonzi will only get better! Wasn't Dave Bamber's debut against Citeh too???? And Johnny Butler....same game
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Post by norwegianstoke on Sept 16, 2012 19:53:16 GMT
I thought Whelan did well today and looked better for having better players around him (Wezza will feel vindicated!) That said I just thought those two I mentioned were on a different planet. Walters has played well last 2 games, as well. Cheers TP ;D
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2012 19:54:22 GMT
Walters has played well last 2 games, as well. Cheers TP ;D You're welcome ;D
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 16, 2012 19:55:52 GMT
Wasn't Dave Bamber's debut against Citeh too???? And Johnny Butler....same game Bananas, Butler Bamber and Berry on Boxing Day. The Bollocks! ;D
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