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Post by stokechick on Mar 5, 2008 15:23:50 GMT
Again, EVERY COUNTRY in the world has a past they can be ashamed of. You cannot paint a brush over every American because of their leaders. Do you agree Lordeffinghamhunt with EVERY decision your politicians make? BUT, they are your politicians so if they are bad...you must be as well.
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Post by soicowboy on Mar 5, 2008 15:27:32 GMT
'EVERY COUNTRY in the world has a past they can be ashamed of'
Apart from Belgium- a few crappy Eurovision songs and Eric Gerets cheated at footy as did Andelecht.
Belgium is the kind of place that if it was invaded no-one would notice.
They do have good beer though and you can get drunk at a motorway service station.
Hang on they did give us Jean Claude Van Damme- take it back.
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Post by bostedclog on Mar 5, 2008 15:29:39 GMT
It is against Cota Rican law to have an army ,it is written in their constitution .that is something to be proud of
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Post by bostedclog on Mar 5, 2008 15:29:57 GMT
I have got nothing against them bombing the middle east.. if thats not a joke its the most disgraceful thing i ever seen on here
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Post by NassauDave on Mar 5, 2008 15:31:38 GMT
Respect for each other? I love visiting the States but it's no better than the U.K. in many ways. There is poverty, gang issues, and all of the usual social issues that all modern countries deal with. Oh, and don't start me on guns..........
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Post by soicowboy on Mar 5, 2008 15:33:39 GMT
'Oh and I forgott the people who so nicely funded the IRA during their many years of bombing main land Britain!!!'
Of course the UK would never back the USA in any war would they ???
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Post by bostedclog on Mar 5, 2008 15:34:34 GMT
lol ;D and wouldnt support us in the argy war
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Mar 5, 2008 15:41:09 GMT
War is the apt word there Cowboy, We have not backed them in acts of terrorism. mind you some of the liberal brigade on here would say that we have.
Can you think back to the British Empire when we use to rule many countries? A proud time for everyone who was British with out a doubt. Look at some of these nations now, civil wars, dictatorships, poverty. I would say they are much more worse off now that they were under British rule.
As for the bombing of the middle east I rather think that it must be done for the safety of the rest of the world. Can one imagine if Iran had nuclear capabilities?
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Mar 5, 2008 15:44:05 GMT
The German invasion of Belgium caused Britain to mobilize and enter the First World War.
The Belgian Congo is not a particularly proud part of Belgium's past.
The UK did not back the US in the Vietnam War.
The US did provide Sidewinder missiles to British war planes during the Falklands War.
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Post by serpico on Mar 5, 2008 15:47:36 GMT
Going to America to get away from Immigrants would be like going to crufts to get away from dogs.
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Post by soicowboy on Mar 5, 2008 15:52:10 GMT
'Look at some of these nations now,'
That's true- Sri Lanka still has civil war- nothing compared to Ceylon under the British Empire when the British butchered 1% of the poulation.
The hundreds of thousands that died in India through famine etc under the British Empire.
How they must long for those days when the upper class nobs sat drinking tea talking about how proud it is to be British whilst thousands and thousands died
Read your history
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Post by starkiller on Mar 5, 2008 15:56:39 GMT
OK, here I am again on one of my husbands posts. Yeah...the American wife. EVH LOVES England. He is very proud of England and is probably so patriotic about the country that he at times drives me insane. I think he is probably a bit frustrated with how this country seems to be always giving things away to illegal immigrants. It's probably my fault for sending him the link to the sky news story about them (the governement) offering upwards of £3000.00 to foreigners in jail to leave the country. I'm not exactly sure what started this post here with whomever Lordeffinghamhunt is....but I don't think I helped much. Yes, I do see where we Americans are slagged off here in this country. Is it hurtful to me...yeah but then I also notice that MANY(not all) English tend to make generalities about anyone who isn't English. I think its mostly just that they are proud to be English. At least that is what I try to tell myself because I would hate to make horrible assumptions about an entire nation. How much ill-informed, contradictory, hypocritical crap can be included in one post? You had to post again to add some more. If you think it is immigrants that cause the majority of problems and are the major drain on taxes in this country, you are nothing but a modern day Nazi looking for a scapegoat.
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Post by serpico on Mar 5, 2008 15:57:32 GMT
Can one imagine if Iran had nuclear capabilities? Yeh, and they still wouldn't be a threat to us.
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Post by stokechick on Mar 5, 2008 16:01:32 GMT
Lordeffingham, why have you not answered my question? Do you agree with all of your politicians? Every leader's decision? You must, you're English and they are your leaders. The thing is, no matter what, every country has its bad points. Each and every one has been seen to do something to upset the rest of the world.
You can say what you want about American's bringing bad things here, but, you are a country of free people with free will and I would assume can make your own decisions. Fast food was not forced on you, you are not forced to listen to gangster rap (now that would be torture), and our crap tv (isn't it all?) is not forced on you either. We all have choices, isn't that the main point? We can sit here and bicker about whose country is the greatest or the worst, but at least we have that right.
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Post by bostedclog on Mar 5, 2008 16:02:06 GMT
The UK did not back the US in the Vietnam War mmm and what did the yanks do to us in return. sent the uk into recession and hundreds of thousands of jobs were lost.At least we had a priminister Harold Wilson who stood up to the yanks amid tremendous usa pressure
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Post by stokechick on Mar 5, 2008 16:02:59 GMT
OK, here I am again on one of my husbands posts. Yeah...the American wife. EVH LOVES England. He is very proud of England and is probably so patriotic about the country that he at times drives me insane. I think he is probably a bit frustrated with how this country seems to be always giving things away to illegal immigrants. It's probably my fault for sending him the link to the sky news story about them (the governement) offering upwards of £3000.00 to foreigners in jail to leave the country. I'm not exactly sure what started this post here with whomever Lordeffinghamhunt is....but I don't think I helped much. Yes, I do see where we Americans are slagged off here in this country. Is it hurtful to me...yeah but then I also notice that MANY(not all) English tend to make generalities about anyone who isn't English. I think its mostly just that they are proud to be English. At least that is what I try to tell myself because I would hate to make horrible assumptions about an entire nation. How much ill-informed, contradictory, hypocritical crap can be included in one post? You had to post again to add some more. If you think it is immigrants that cause the majority of problems and are the major drain on taxes in this country, you are nothing but a modern day Nazi looking for a scapegoat. Huh? That was my first post on the subject dear.
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Post by stokechick on Mar 5, 2008 16:04:28 GMT
The UK did not back the US in the Vietnam War mmm and what did the yanks do to us in return. sent the uk into recession and hundreds of thousands of jobs were lost.At least we had a priminister Harold Wilson who stood up to the yanks amid tremendous usa pressure I'm going to plead and admit ignorance on this one. How did we send the uk into a recession?
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Post by bostedclog on Mar 5, 2008 16:08:32 GMT
by raking in the 2nd world war debt we had to fund their vietnam war.which sent inflation sky high etc etc the rest is history.the usa said to wilson back us or pay the consequences ,and we did
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Post by bostedclog on Mar 5, 2008 16:08:49 GMT
but, you are a country of free people with free will :oNo were are not
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Mar 5, 2008 16:09:00 GMT
Yes, just how did the US send the UK into recession?
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Post by soicowboy on Mar 5, 2008 16:11:24 GMT
'Yes, just how did the US send the UK into recession? '
After Vietnam- all the Yanks started going to Thailand for their holidays instead of Margate- think that's what happened. Either that or what Mr Clog says
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Post by bostedclog on Mar 5, 2008 16:12:35 GMT
by raking in the 2nd world war debt we had to fund their vietnam war.which sent inflation sky high etc etc the rest is history.the usa said to wilson back us or pay the consequences ,and we did
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Mar 5, 2008 16:13:54 GMT
After Vietnam- all the Yanks started going to Thailand for their holidays instead of Margate. ;D
Thanks, Soi that makes more sense.
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Post by stokechick on Mar 5, 2008 16:14:53 GMT
I didn't know that. It still doesn't make all Americans bad and worthy of some of the crap that is being posted. Anyways, I am done. I have had apologies from some on here privately and been completely ignored by others who seem to be afraid of an honest conversation. I appreciate the lesson you gave bostedclog no matter what your intentions. I think to prevent ignorance on the subject I will go do some research. Have a lovely evening.
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Post by evhstokie on Mar 5, 2008 16:15:14 GMT
well spoken babe(stokechick) proud of you
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Post by kkkkken on Mar 5, 2008 16:22:06 GMT
What country caused the potato famine in Ireland ? . Though the British Empire was vast ,I can't help but think that during that period we were the Man Utd of nations .
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Post by sutekh on Mar 5, 2008 16:22:52 GMT
After spending a few hours in shepherds bush on sunday,i must say that i think that this country is indeed a right fucking shithole. Sorry if i have offended any slack jawed,left wing,muslim rimming,pro european individuals with the above statement.
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Post by soicowboy on Mar 5, 2008 16:29:06 GMT
The potato famine was caused by a fungus , sutekh- believed to have come from Mexico.
British law however did prohibit Irish Catholics from purchasing quantities of land so as a result the small plots they had were used for planting potatoes- true the British gave no help to the starving Irish, another of Lordeffingham's countries that prospered under British rule and is in chaos now. ???
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Post by stokechick on Mar 5, 2008 16:32:38 GMT
by raking in the 2nd world war debt we had to fund their vietnam war.which sent inflation sky high etc etc the rest is history.the usa said to wilson back us or pay the consequences ,and we did Just wondering...is this the debt you refer to? news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6215847.stmFrom the BBC news site dated December 29, 2006 (a bit later than the Vietnam war I think) UK settles WWII debts to allies Britain needed money for reconstruction and importing food Britain will settle its World War II debts to the US and Canada when it pays two final instalments before the close of 2006, the Treasury has said. The payments of $83.25m (£42.5m) to the US and US$22.7m (£11.6m) to Canada are the last of 50 instalments since 1950. The amount paid back is nearly double that loaned in 1945 and 1946. "This week we finally honour in full our commitments to the US and Canada for the support they gave us 60 years ago," said Treasury Minister Ed Balls. "It was vital support which helped Britain defeat Nazi Germany and secure peace and prosperity in the post-war period. We honour our commitments to them now as they honoured their commitments to us all those years ago," he added. The last payments will be made on Friday, the final working day of the year. Deferred Under the lend-lease programme, which began in March 1941, the then neutral US could provide countries fighting Adolf Hitler with war material. The US joined the war soon after - in the wake of the attack on Pearl Harbour - and the programme ended in 1945. Equipment left over in Britain at the end of hostilities and still needed had to be paid for. The US loaned $4.33bn (£2.2bn) to Britain in 1945, while Canada loaned US$1.19 bn (£607m) in 1946, at a rate of 2% annual interest. Upon the final payments, the UK will have paid back a total of $7.5bn (£3.8bn) to the US and US$2 bn (£1bn) to Canada. Despite the favourable rates there were six years in which Britain deferred payment because of economic or political crises. There are still World War I debts owed to and by Britain. Since a moratorium on all debts from that conflict was agreed at the height of the Great Depression, no repayments have been made to or received from other nations since 1934. Think I will go see what else I can learn today. ;D I have had quite the education. Night all!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 5, 2008 16:40:37 GMT
"We have not backed them in acts of terrorism. mind you some of the liberal brigade on here would say that we have."
Some liberals on here and the United Nations.
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