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Post by Hooky on Feb 28, 2004 9:57:21 GMT
pot and kettle spring to mind only cos you have got a bee in your bonnet about SOD all....... you've read more into it than there was, its not about that it was done, its about what a spectacularly POOR effort it was.......most of us would have had a chuckle if it had had the quality of an MCF preview ...but it just didn't it. It tried to be funny, but fell flat on its face
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Post by britvic on Feb 28, 2004 10:00:10 GMT
Rex,
Can you name even one occasion when I have either appluded an MCF preview or mocked the complaining fans of the clubs who were the subject of an MCF preview ? Just because some Stoke fans find MCF funny does not take away my right to voice my dislike of something that someone entirely different has written.
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 28, 2004 10:08:16 GMT
Britvic, as I dont know if you use the rivals board and under which name, then no I cannot say you either applaud or mock, but I was 'talking' in general terms.
Mr Rchards, read the comments made from our group of whingers and you will see they were not having a dig at how poorly written it was, "That inferiority complex just comes shining through", "chip on both shoulders" to me doesnt really translate as 'poorly written article' more like the bitching we get from people moaning about Merkins previews.
so keep your fooking nose out, you've had your fingers burnt once, do you never learn? Surely you must have better things to do on your own board? Stats to produce,driving charts, how much sleep you havent had etc!!
So you ignore me like i am generally trying to do with you, and everything will be fine
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Post by britvic on Feb 28, 2004 10:13:02 GMT
You're telling me to keep my fucking nose out on a thread that I started ? You really are priceless !
And by the way, I am an occasional poster on the Rivals board under the name of Tesco, and have been posting on the Oatcake since 1997.
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Post by Vodkab1ock on Feb 28, 2004 10:19:04 GMT
classic thread ;D can see where rex is coming from personally but rex calling people ***** etc is only goin start arguments innit. also heard there was a match on this weekend come on STOKE
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 28, 2004 10:20:15 GMT
Britvic just confirming what you have just written.
But read what I posted just above
So two questions for you, are you Ilforddave/Mr Richards?
Or do you actually fit into the **** category?
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Post by Hooky on Feb 28, 2004 10:20:42 GMT
so keep your fooking nose out, you've had your fingers burnt once, do you never learn? Surely you must have better things to do on your own board? Stats to produce,driving charts, how much sleep you havent had etc!! So you ignore me like i am generally trying to do with you, and everything will be fine ROFLFAO fingers burnt, weren't even warm... I do try to ignore you, but sometimes you just make yourself worthy of comments from me anyway, I'm off to draw a venn diagram ;D
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Post by britvic on Feb 28, 2004 10:24:20 GMT
Point taken. I am not Ilford Dave and I do not have Downs Syndrome.
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 28, 2004 10:25:53 GMT
Really?
You really need to take more notice of what trouble you caused within the last two months since/during the OBPU
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Post by Hooky on Feb 28, 2004 10:32:23 GMT
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 28, 2004 10:35:00 GMT
Britvic.Tesco As per my original explanation as to my meaning of the word '****' I am not for one minute suggesting that the people I have described as ***** on this thread have Downs, as explained above, my meaning of the word **** is 'Brain Dead', Downs people are not brain dead. glad you finally get my point though Rex
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 28, 2004 10:38:26 GMT
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Post by SuperStokie on Feb 28, 2004 10:45:48 GMT
Rex, your way with words is quite untrue! Right, yeah we have a game on (hopefully) that we should be concentrating on, not whether Crewe fans hate us or not. You wassocks, *****, whingers- Jon
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Post by SuperStokie on Feb 28, 2004 10:45:48 GMT
Rex, your way with words is quite untrue! Right, yeah we have a game on (hopefully) that we should be concentrating on, not whether Crewe fans hate us or not. You wassocks, *****, whingers- Jon
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Post by britvic on Feb 28, 2004 10:47:24 GMT
If the pitch is frozen we just need to transfer some of the hot air from this thread up to Crewe !
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Post by Hooky on Feb 28, 2004 10:49:57 GMT
classic thread ;D can see where rex is coming from personally but rex calling people ***** etc is only goin start arguments innit. also heard there was a match on this weekend come on STOKE I can't I've read & re-read the opening sequence upto where rex stuck his oar in, and I just don't see what he's getting at, its nothing at all like the stuff written by opposition fans about mcf's previews. there are 2 observations about the content, which rex bases his whole argument on "That inferiority complex just comes shining through." try disgreeing that it doesn't "Well, that preview confirms to me that Crewe fans are very balanced people... they have huge chips on BOTH shoulders." a slightly witty (never heard before honest) response to the preview. neither worth the following response really " Your a bunch of ***** you really are, someone takes the piss out of Stoke and you lot get the hump, fuck me, if we dont have the best previewer of all time in MCF (hope his house move goes ok tomorrow) who gets as much info on the opposition and really grinds it in. and you lot get the hump over that? Fuck sake, wake up will ya!! so for those people that have moaned on here so far, dont ever let me catch you having a go at the opposition when they come on rivals cos I'll openly tell them that we have our own fair share of cry babies when it comes to previews, and you will have your names listed so they can take the piss out of you personally!!"
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 28, 2004 10:50:54 GMT
I dont 'do' Subtle!! its not in my nature, If you dont like it then tough. There are many people out there however, that do appreciate people saying it how it is, and not beating about the bush. Britvic, just keep away from my leg, I've heard about your type before, if there is any pulling to be done, then thats the wifes job Rex
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Post by SuperStokie on Feb 28, 2004 11:02:06 GMT
Theres ways and means about beating about the bush though isn't there.
My approach would be, "I don't agree with you mate, here is why" (Unless they were being abusive)
Yours is "You ****, can you not see I am right and you are wrong, you dickhead"
Both ways are saying you do not agree, but which option would most right minded people go for, Rex?
Jon
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 28, 2004 11:08:08 GMT
Why type 100 words when ten will do? Jon, you should go and live in London for a while, I am right minded, the majority of people who have lived here for more than 20 years down here are the same.
Or in the PC manner in which you would rather. Well Jon, yes there is your very valid point of "Theres ways and means about beating about the bush though isn't there.
My approach would be, "I don't agree with you mate, here is why" (Unless they were being abusive)
Yours is "You ****, can you not see I am right and you are wrong, you dickhead" "
But one hopes you can also appreciate that I do not, and have never lived up north, and down south we have a completely different culture, its like comparing the cultures of say the United States of America and Japan, The Americans in general are loud and brash, whilst the Japanese are more reserved and try to be as polite as possible, but as it is a well known fact, one does tend to appreicate both types of culture when conversing with either the Japanese or the Americans.
Better? ;D
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Post by wigginbird on Feb 28, 2004 11:11:56 GMT
Rex
Don't make me laugh. I work with Southern people (a lot of whom are from around the London area) and they would not carry out arguments in the way you mention.
They are not brash in the way you seem to carry yourself, they would state that they do not agree and suggest why.
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Post by SuperStokie on Feb 28, 2004 11:12:33 GMT
Do you still have to be like that though, really?
No.
Right!
Jon
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 28, 2004 11:16:29 GMT
Kathryn, please correct me If I'm wrong (I'm sure you will) but do you or do you not work in an office? I'm sure that even you will admit that Office people are just a tad more refined than those that work outside, eg: building sites etc. Please remember that I have been in the telecoms & building industries for nearly all my life, and am pretty certain that the language used and the behaviour in general is not adopted in the offices. if this was the case then there would be the equivalent of people being thrown over scaffolding,site agents being beaten up in the office enviroments of this wonderful country of ours as well. If of course you do work on a building site then you obviously understand. But I'm pretty sure you dont.
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 28, 2004 11:20:57 GMT
Do you still have to be like that though, really? No. Right! Jon Are you saying I should change my whole personality just because a few people get the hump? no fucking chance sonny.!! ;D Rex
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Post by wigginbird on Feb 28, 2004 11:22:01 GMT
Rex
I disagree. I have worked for 2 telecomms companies in the past, and have had many dealings with people who work in the manual sides of things (engineers, and other back office staff). I have NEVER heard them use arguments in the way you do, they would always have a response and not call someone a ****. If they did 'insult' people it was not a proper insult, more of a joke. I cannot see how the posts mentioned can be said to be similar to this scenario.
And just because I work in an office does not mean that it is always sweetness and light. There are just as many coarse people in an office, but they manage to argue their points with a clarity and appropriate language when they need to. I think you could learn from this.
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 28, 2004 11:31:36 GMT
Kathryn, When I frequent Offices and well to do people in their houses I also tone it down as it is expected of us, very similar in fact to my anology of America and Japan above. Please do go and work on a building site, or in a cable pulling gang for 6 months then tell me they are not the same as myself, Not only is working outside good for you (especially in the summer) but doing manual labour also helps keep the body in tone, although i must admit to putting on a few pounds as i get older. Lots of ladder work and using full body harnesses whilst going onto roofs is also good for you, especially when you can just absail to floor level if the mood takes you. Perhaps you should also enter Endurance UK to get a hang of abusing your body, I did and its fun (based on the torture programme by the japanese) to get to the root of what I am really about. You could also try your hand at refereeing, I'm pretty sure you would also learn from your experiences of being verbally abused by at least 22 people at a time and get to cope with it, and also learn to abuse them in much the same way they abuse you. Life is all about learning, and even at my age I am continually learning, today I've learned that some people on here really cannot handle the way I put things, and to be PC correct you are expected to reply in long posts and put your side of things to the full in say 500 words than ten. As you can see from this post I have taken it onboard and have not sworn, or been rude or objective whatsoever so that people can see I do have a brain, and can word things in the correct manner, I hope you appreciate it ;D
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Post by lurcherthelurker on Feb 28, 2004 11:48:45 GMT
Paul Ross Japanese assistants Hoki and Koki In series 2, with the assistance of gong-banger Tara. Challenge TV, 1998-9 Endurance - the cult Japanese show that's kept the like of Clive James and Chris Tarrant on the television for years (damn it!) has sprung a UK counterpart for Challenge TV. Not that they're attention seeking or anything... Television's Paul Ross is hosted ably by his two sidekicks Hoki and Koki (who are definitely Japanese because they wear comedy glasses, have dodgy teeth and confuse their Rs and Ls, obviously) who do their best to put off the contestants as much as possible. But what of the contestants? Eight (five in series two) people who "think they're it" come on and try to prove their the hardest, and it's one of those shows where you often want everybody to lose! But given the games they have to play, the winner deserves to win. We're talking seriously unpleasant here. Whoever thought up the idea of making the contestants to eat maggot quiche while wearing an eye-mask filled with maggots AND having their feet tickled simulateously must be a fairly sick individual but we shan't mention any names, Ged Allen. Other games included being wrapped from head to toe in clingfilm and then snaking your way along a course with such delights as gravel and holly to crawl over. Mmm! And then there's the game where they get the contestants to cycle as fast as they can whilst they hold mustard powder in their mouths. Or, sickest of all, the players feet are attached by bungee rope to a winch whilst they hold on to a bar for dear life. The first person to let go loses. This game is more interesting of course when you add the winch which is winching, the Japanese gravy or molasses which is poured onto the faces of the players followed by a jug full of maggots. Yum! OK then, this show's not for the faint hearted, and its lack of games can infuriate but there's some nice touches. In the original series they'd show clips of the Japanese show between rounds and they'd challenge a member of the audience to do something for a fiver (this is Challenge TV after all). And the in-game music, especially in series two is niiiiice. Prizes were the right to be in the final, an olive crown and a cigar. The winner of the final in series one won a round-the-world trip. In series two they'd make the hilarious joke (every episode) – namely "we thought long and hard about what to give the winner of this year's series, and then we thought... Phuket", namely a trip to the capital of Thailand. Hilarious, no? Or they could choose £5000 (and that is not bad for Challenge TV). Hoki and Koki are meant to refer to Paul Ross as 'Mr Ross' and if they didn't they'd get a slap. So Mr Ross got more than he bargined for when he slapped Hoki one too many times and Hoki beat up on set. Much to the delight of everyone watching When the winner had won (inevitably male) Paul would offer the crown, the cigar and "then maybe (insert name of scantily clad gong banger here) a kiss?" and whilst we and the contestant thought they'd get a kiss from the lovely lady she kissed Paul instead. Ha! "No pain, no game!" "Go home!" Based on a Japanese programme.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2004 12:14:00 GMT
I think the difference between that and an MCF preview is that MCF has no real qualms about being self-derogatory about Stoke, Stoke supporters or himself, re: the 'who'd be sponsored by a fucking Building Society?' mention being a more obvious one off the top of my head, while there's quite a few others that sometimes go un-noticed. For a piss take write up the Crewe one wasn't as sophisticated as Merkin's (and I can't believe I've just called MCF that). The Crewe preview was hardly upsetting, just came across as something poorly researched, knocked up in ten minutes, not brilliant or all that clever. A Man Utd site did a better piss-take out of Stoke a while back, some of our supporters got upset, but the United article was clever, funny, worked well and painted a good picture of a Stoke stereotype. I'd rather have the ability to laugh and take the piss out of ourselves more than anyone else, it's the only thing that keeps you going.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 28, 2004 13:26:35 GMT
Rex who are you calling a plank you Joey ;D Did you mean you earlier 'have not sworn, or been rude or objective' surely you meant subjective, not objective, being objective is PC Your analogy makes you a Yankee loudmouth and me a Honourable Japanese Gentleman. You are right it's a totally different world down here. WigginBird what about the drivers poll on ID's website ???
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 28, 2004 13:31:08 GMT
Hilliers, you do realise that Ilford and Wigginbird are married - to one another? ;D
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 28, 2004 13:50:06 GMT
Yeh I know!! Thats why all the posts, in Dave's world, are from the two of them I suppose it communication of some sort not bad for a married couple lol ;D Now let him come on and say theres more than the two of them but.......................... Congrats on post 600.......I've nearly got 20
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