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Wilko
Sept 24, 2011 21:27:48 GMT
Post by Akinbadbuy on Sept 24, 2011 21:27:48 GMT
MOTM for me today by a country mile. Outstanding performance and effort as always.
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Wilko
Sept 24, 2011 21:58:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2011 21:58:26 GMT
his defending has improved massively no stupid fouls but same commitment,shottons has too but we have some great players to pass on their experience tho
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Wilko
Sept 24, 2011 22:13:01 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 24, 2011 22:13:01 GMT
There was a thread like this, when Wilko replaced Huth at right back last season ... when we (again) all of sudden started firing on all cylinders (against Liverpool at home).
Strange then that we decided to start this season with Huth back at right back ...
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twinny
Lads'n'Dads
Ooh Andy Andy...
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Wilko
Sept 24, 2011 22:27:16 GMT
Post by twinny on Sept 24, 2011 22:27:16 GMT
Been a solid defender for a while now but didn't have much going forward, but from the evidence this season he's learned a lot about getting forward. I noticed his distribution was great in the Hajduk Split home game, and it was the same today. He's able to get down the wings much better than before, and I think he's learning that from the partnership with Pennant. If he developed a cross Stoke could really hurt other teams from the right wing.
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Wilko
Sept 24, 2011 22:29:36 GMT
Post by Lightwood on Sept 24, 2011 22:29:36 GMT
Brilliant today, TP must go with Wilko at RB from now on
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 0:19:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 0:19:52 GMT
A massive compliment that I can give wilko is what did ashley young do today?? I'll tell you, absolutly nothing! And young as started the season outstanding yet never got a dime from wilko! A superb performance by anyone's standards
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 0:22:12 GMT
Post by jarhead on Sept 25, 2011 0:22:12 GMT
Just a shame he will be dropped after ANOTHER great performance at right back!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Sept 25, 2011 0:49:12 GMT
He was brilliant !
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 0:53:49 GMT
Post by CrazyPotter on Sept 25, 2011 0:53:49 GMT
An exceptional performance from Sgt Wilko. The thing for me is that he appeared to show the right balance between 'going for it' and getting the timing right. He seemed to weigh up the situation much more clearly, knowing when to dive in, and when to sit-off and shepherd the player away from goal.
The best part was when he went charging in for a 50-50 with two Manure players. He went straight in head first when the other lads had their feet up. As soon as they sensed Wilko's presence, they bottled it even when Wilko would have come off worse.
Also, as pointed out above, his distribution was spot on - nothing wasteful and nothing spectacular - just as a right-back should do. It clearly improves JP's game as well - allowing him to cut inside and take on the centre backs rather than the full back as Wilko drags him away with his overlaps. Must start at RB next game with Huth and Ryan at centre back, please.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 2:59:07 GMT
Post by withnall on Sept 25, 2011 2:59:07 GMT
The best part was when he went charging in for a 50-50 with two Manure players. He went straight in head first when the other lads had their feet up. . Wilko head- butts boots. (Repeat three times).
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 3:29:24 GMT
Post by tazi on Sept 25, 2011 3:29:24 GMT
My favourite player.
Full of heart and passion who eptomises everything that us on the terraces would give for our beloved club.
Andy is a Stokie, Andy is a Stokie nah, nah, nah, nah ay.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 5:35:54 GMT
Post by southstanddan on Sept 25, 2011 5:35:54 GMT
What a time that would have been to have got his first. Im hope im there when he does!
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Rigpig
Academy Starlet
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 6:14:21 GMT
Post by Rigpig on Sept 25, 2011 6:14:21 GMT
I agree with everything that's been said here. The lad did brilliant. He's been getting better and better with every game. Definite MOTM.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 8:25:18 GMT
Post by ghostie75 on Sept 25, 2011 8:25:18 GMT
I know there were a lot of contenders yesterday but he was right up there for me. Young never had a minute on the ball and got robbed of it a couple of times in the first half. After that performance I think he should start over Huth at RB every time.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 8:29:57 GMT
Post by Pricey on Sept 25, 2011 8:29:57 GMT
Having players out of position when you have viable alternatives is ridiculous.
Wilson is playing on the left because he's the best we have there at the moment. Wilkinson is the best right-back at the club though and should be starting there on a regular basis. It's up to Pulis to decide which two of Huth, Shawcross and Woodgate should start in the middle but Huth at right-back on a long-term basis will do us more harm than good.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 8:31:40 GMT
Post by lancer on Sept 25, 2011 8:31:40 GMT
Wilko / Pennant partnership was part of the catylist which saw our form jump a level at the end of last season. Great understanding. +1
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 8:49:35 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2011 8:49:35 GMT
More proof that playing Huth at right-back is as dumb as it gets when this guy's available.
Pennant would never have produced that type of display with Huthy behind him.
Sadly, I don't think TP will see it that way, and his only means of placating Huth (and Woodgate/Upson) will be lots more Huth RB action, even though the team will generally suffer.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 8:51:07 GMT
Post by Pricey on Sept 25, 2011 8:51:07 GMT
I'm not even sure Huth enjoys playing on the right though FM.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 8:55:37 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2011 8:55:37 GMT
I'm not even sure Huth enjoys playing on the right though FM. I think he's on record as saying he doesn't like it at all, Pricey. But I bet he prefers it to sitting on the bench! And with the egos of Woodgate and Upson to manage with league game involvement, playing him at RB will probably be the least worst option for TP.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 9:00:08 GMT
Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 25, 2011 9:00:08 GMT
What a strike, what has the poor lad got to do to get a goal!! Cant wait to see a replay Excellent performance as well, hopefully stays at Right back now. He actually marked Ashley Young out of the game, he didn't give the lad a kick! So unlucky with his strike. Can you imagine the mental if that had flown in?!? ;D
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 9:02:52 GMT
Post by Pricey on Sept 25, 2011 9:02:52 GMT
Playing devil's advocate for a minute...
I want Wilkinson in as much as the next man, but results-wise it's made very little difference this season so far. We were always going to lose to Sunderland and as for the rest, you couldn't really pin-point Huth at right-back for not beating Chelsea or Norwich. Long-term you do get the feeling deploying Huth on the right will have a negative impact on our results but then Pulis is entitled to do whatever he wants isn't he?
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 9:52:56 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 25, 2011 9:52:56 GMT
Playing devil's advocate for a minute... I want Wilkinson in as much as the next man, but results-wise it's made very little difference this season so far. We were always going to lose to Sunderland and as for the rest, you couldn't really pin-point Huth at right-back for not beating Chelsea or Norwich. Long-term you do get the feeling deploying Huth on the right will have a negative impact on our results but then Pulis is entitled to do whatever he wants isn't he? Not sure I agree with you there Pricey. We've been woeful going forward in the Prem all season, creating very little chances for our forwards. People have been asking why has Pennant not been playing well? Some of us have suggested it's because Huth doesn't even remotely support him in the way Wilko does. Pennant played well yesterday and we created more chances for our forwards than we have all season. Incredibly we had exactly this same debate at the start of LAST season, prior to Tone reinstating Andy at right back against Liverpool, where we subsequently took them apart.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 10:08:15 GMT
Post by Stretfordpotterer on Sept 25, 2011 10:08:15 GMT
Wilko came in for this game as he always does when we come up against a genuine winger, and as always he marked that winger out of the game. This is far from the first time he's had Young in is pocket, Wilko hasn't give him a sniff in 6 or 7 attempts against Villa and now United, in fact i'd like to see how many times Young has been subbed when up against wilko, i suspect it's a good few. TP always plays him against young but for some reason doesn't like to play him unless the opposition have a wide man that needs tracking and snuffing out of the game. To me Wilko would be in week in week out but it's hard to argue with TP given the points return we've got from an incredibly tough start.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 10:22:59 GMT
Post by Pricey on Sept 25, 2011 10:22:59 GMT
Playing devil's advocate for a minute... I want Wilkinson in as much as the next man, but results-wise it's made very little difference this season so far. We were always going to lose to Sunderland and as for the rest, you couldn't really pin-point Huth at right-back for not beating Chelsea or Norwich. Long-term you do get the feeling deploying Huth on the right will have a negative impact on our results but then Pulis is entitled to do whatever he wants isn't he? Not sure I agree with you there Pricey. We've been woeful going forward in the Prem all season, creating very little chances for our forwards. People have been asking why has Pennant not been playing well? Some of us have suggested it's because Huth doesn't even remotely support him in the way Wilko does. Pennant played well yesterday and we created more chances for our forwards than we have all season. Incredibly we had exactly this same debate at the start of LAST season, prior to Tone reinstating Andy at right back against Liverpool, where we subsequently took them apart. Paul, I just think it's a little bit excessive for anyone to suggest having Wilkinson in the team for every league game this season would have led to a greater haul of points. I am however arguing that if Pulis persists with Huth at right-back for large chunks of this season our results will be negatively affected. And re: having exactly the same discussion last season. I know! For whatever reason Pulis gets back in pre-season and has a brainwave that Wilkinson isn't the best right-back at the club. The same normally happens with left-back and I was half-expecting to see Danny Collins lining up against Chelsea. As chorltonpotterer says though, it's hard to argue with TP after our start to the season, especially considering after Thursday we'll have played as many games in Europe as in the league.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 10:26:34 GMT
Post by th05 on Sept 25, 2011 10:26:34 GMT
Epitomises everything about our club.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 10:36:09 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 25, 2011 10:36:09 GMT
Not sure I agree with you there Pricey. We've been woeful going forward in the Prem all season, creating very little chances for our forwards. People have been asking why has Pennant not been playing well? Some of us have suggested it's because Huth doesn't even remotely support him in the way Wilko does. Pennant played well yesterday and we created more chances for our forwards than we have all season. Incredibly we had exactly this same debate at the start of LAST season, prior to Tone reinstating Andy at right back against Liverpool, where we subsequently took them apart. Paul, I just think it's a little bit excessive for anyone to suggest having Wilkinson in the team for every league game this season would have led to a greater haul of points. I am however arguing that if Pulis persists with Huth at right-back for large chunks of this season our results will be negatively affected. And re: having exactly the same discussion last season. I know! For whatever reason Pulis gets back in pre-season and has a brainwave that Wilkinson isn't the best right-back at the club. The same normally happens with left-back and I was half-expecting to see Danny Collins lining up against Chelsea. As chorltonpotterer says though, it's hard to argue with TP after our start to the season, especially considering after Thursday we'll have played as many games in Europe as in the league. I'd suggest that TP is aware that Wilko's the best right back at the club but in order to accommodate Woodgate in the team, he's moved Huth out there instead. We are a better team overall with Wilko in that position, TP's given himself a headache with how to keep Ryan, Huth, Woodgate and Upson happy, however the solution to that problem, isn't playing one of them at full back at the expense of Wilko imho.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 10:39:36 GMT
Post by spongebob on Sept 25, 2011 10:39:36 GMT
Wilko is 100% Stokie...no one can fault his commitment and drive. I myself have said that although he is the hardest working lad you could ask for, he is not a skilful player. and his distribution is to belt the ball as far as possible. Couldnt say that yesterday...he was outstanding. I cant see how he cannot be first choice for RB. Playing Huth at RB is like building a wall and kicking the ball against it...playing Wilko is like kicking the ball into a tornado
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 10:40:50 GMT
Post by Pricey on Sept 25, 2011 10:40:50 GMT
So at the start of last season Pulis obviously thought he needed to keep Faye in the team? I see your thinking. However...didn't we have Wilson at right-back over Wilko for a few games last season until Higgy got injured?
I think it's just he's quite slow to make a change with any kind of risk attached to it. The risk in this case being Huth might ask for a transfer. But there remains a niggling sense in my head that Pulis doesn't completely trust Wilko to do the job he asks.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 10:41:58 GMT
Post by roylandstoke on Sept 25, 2011 10:41:58 GMT
Should be automatic first choice RB.
It is easier for us to keep the ball when we play proper fullbacks, it also gives the opposition wide man honest as he has to be aware of the need to track back at times. Robert Huth does a good job at RB for a CB playing there, but he is not a RB. Wilko is.
In a team full of good performances Wilko was my MOTM.
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Wilko
Sept 25, 2011 10:43:04 GMT
Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 25, 2011 10:43:04 GMT
Playing devil's advocate for a minute... I want Wilkinson in as much as the next man, but results-wise it's made very little difference this season so far. We were always going to lose to Sunderland and as for the rest, you couldn't really pin-point Huth at right-back for not beating Chelsea or Norwich. Long-term you do get the feeling deploying Huth on the right will have a negative impact on our results but then Pulis is entitled to do whatever he wants isn't he? Not sure I agree with you there Pricey. We've been woeful going forward in the Prem all season, creating very little chances for our forwards. People have been asking why has Pennant not been playing well? Some of us have suggested it's because Huth doesn't even remotely support him in the way Wilko does. Pennant played well yesterday and we created more chances for our forwards than we have all season. Incredibly we had exactly this same debate at the start of LAST season, prior to Tone reinstating Andy at right back against Liverpool, where we subsequently took them apart. Bang on, mate! Tone, play two wingers and a right back. Drop Delap, his legs have gone. Whelan and Wilko should start games, rotate the centre backs to keep em sweet! We looked really good against United, don't want to go back to square one, ie. no threat, few chances.
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