A tale of 2 new Newcastles ...

[StokieSC]

Which one came first?

Our Newcastle, home of fine estates such as Knutton, Ches and Crackley, or the North East Newcastle home to Ant and Dec, Jimmy Nail and Newcy Brown?

[WurstBoy]

Newcastle-upon-Tyne is around 1000 years older than Newcastle-under-Lyme

NuT was founded around 200AD and NuL around 1200AD

[dad1]

To be pedantic, there isn't much in it actually.

Whilst there was a Roman settlement in what is now NuT, dating, as wurstboy said, from around the 2nd century AD, NEWCASTLE did not exist until the castle was built in around 1080 (the 11th century)

NuL grew up around the 12th century castle. But like NuT there were settlements in the area prior to this, including the Roman camp at Chesterton.

Hence probably less than 100 years difference.

[Pretty Little Boother]

To answer properly, not like the two nerds above, I will say ours- because theirs is wank.

[daverichards]

On the basis that the tyneside variety didn't get its "new" castle till the normans arrived ... fuck all in it

After the Roman withdrawal from Britain, Newcastle became part of the powerful Anglo-Saxon kingdom of Northumbria, and was known throughout this period as Monkchester. After a series of conflicts with the Danes and the devastation north of the River Tyne inflicted by Odo of Bayeux after the 1080 rebellion against the Normans, Monkchester was all but destroyed. Because of its strategic position, Robert Curthose, son of William the Conqueror, erected a wooden castle there in 1080 and the town was henceforth known as Novum Castellum or New Castle.

[StokieSC]

Wheres the Castle in our Newcastle?

[daverichards]

down by Pool Dam

go past the Dancing octopus chippy, chuck a right into silverdale Rd, and its at the end of the parking spaces on the left handside , all you'll see is the earthen mound where the old keep was, not that big as it was a wooden castle like this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey

[Rebelliousjukebox]

There are a number of other Newcastles around the world that meet annually, including USA, Australia, Japan, France, Switzerland, Germany.

www.newcastle-staffs.gov.uk/NewsArticle.asp?id=SX161-A7802101