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Post by RedandWhite4ever on Dec 13, 2007 19:20:06 GMT
Are you all comfortable with this appointment. I know his record is second to none BUT.. I have just heard that it's possible that he will bring in all italian backroom staff.
What happened to Shearer or Adams coming in as assistants.. I dunno about this..
I suppose it's a case of suck it and see. Is it to late to get Harry Redknapp..
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Post by Top Stopper on Dec 13, 2007 19:24:56 GMT
sorry just testing my avatar
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Post by TheBeautifulGame on Dec 13, 2007 19:32:53 GMT
It was inevitable that he would work with his own staff. He's most likely worked with all the backroom staff before and they work well as a team. I could never see him working with Shearer etc to please anyone.
If it's what gets the best results for England, so be it i say.
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 13, 2007 20:36:53 GMT
What's the point of foisting him with staff who he can't work with? The first thing most managers do at a new club is bring in their own men. Imagine this is a few years ago in the past and that Brian Clough was foreign. If Clough told you that he wanted Peter Taylor as his assistant, would you deny him that?
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Post by tigger68 on Dec 13, 2007 20:53:00 GMT
we've taken 5 steps back since sven.......our leagues are full of foreigners so why not the national team coach.....who have we got who's english
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 14, 2007 10:52:53 GMT
I don't get why people seem to want Redknapp over Cappello. Cappello has been a success wherever he's been. Redknapp has done a good job with Pompey, but that's it - how does that qualify him for the top job?
It's also interesting to note that much of Pompey's success this season has coincided with Harry "good old blighty, fish n' chips" Redknapp shipping out his British boys in favour of the likes of Kranjar, Utaka and Muntari.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 14, 2007 13:49:11 GMT
9 titles in 16 years with four different clubs.
I think he's earned the right to choose his own coaches.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Dec 14, 2007 13:51:01 GMT
I don;t care if he's from Mars and wants the Waltons to help him, he's got to be better than that Ginger prick.
Good luck to him.
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Post by anticardiff on Dec 14, 2007 14:04:14 GMT
Time will tell and we have plenty of that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2007 14:22:13 GMT
I think the FA have got it right with Capello.
We need a fresh approach. We saw with the appointment of McLaren the dangers of appointing someone already influenced by the media and his predecessor. We need someone from the outside who has a fresh approach. Someone who has not already formed opinions of players based on the media, public and other factions.
I’m not saying he doesn’t know the English players but he hasn’t been living “day in day out” in the cauldron that is English football.
He’s a no nonsense guy and hopefully he will whip a few of these prima-donas into shape.
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Post by bogus on Dec 14, 2007 14:32:42 GMT
Spot on WD.
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Post by Sammz on Dec 14, 2007 14:46:03 GMT
Results are all that count for me. Where he’s from will only become an issue if he doesn’t get them.
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Post by TheDee51 on Dec 14, 2007 14:57:54 GMT
after the piss poor performance against Croatia, my works 'England' mug was smashed the following day and from now on I will be supporting Kazakhstan
Manager should have been Coppel, Pearce or Incy in my opinion.
note to RVD: Hadn't Sven got the same sort of crudentials at club level???
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 14, 2007 15:34:06 GMT
The same Sven who has the best record of any of our recent managers in the last 20 years? Fine by me.
Copple: Struggles with pressure. Pearce: Why? Dire at Man City, inherited a good U-21 side. Ince, not ready yet.
Cappello, as someone said, 9 titles in 16 years.
Doesn't seem a tough choice.
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Post by TheDee51 on Dec 14, 2007 15:39:14 GMT
"9 titles in 16 years"
Whats that got to do with anything?? Club level and International level are totally different - can't compare the two. Might as well have appointed Pulis. Like I said, how many titles did Sven win? Did we still slate him?
Its disgarceful that our national team hasn't got an english manager. If we do win the World cup I wonder how many people will be saying - you only won it cuz you've got an I Tie as your manager.
C'mon Kazakhstan!!!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 14, 2007 15:44:17 GMT
There isn't an English manager good enough.
As long as the players on the pitch are English, what does it matter where the manager's from?
The number of trophies he's won is significant because it shows he's a winner. Which is what we need.
I thought Sven did a decent job. At least we qualified for competitions with him, and he was far better than the berks who immediately preceded and followed him.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Dec 14, 2007 15:52:29 GMT
My only beef with Capello is that he doesn't have international experience, but hell, neither do any of the English candidates (U21 doesn't count in my book). I am happy with Capello, but maybe would've prefered scolari or hiddink after the Euros, not by much though.
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Post by luke45 on Dec 14, 2007 16:11:52 GMT
I really wanted an englishman too take the ropes as manager, because i just feel that foreign manager's don't pocess the same passion.
But Capello's managerial record is not to sniffed at, he's won several trophies and league titles, and is clearly a class act, but i just hope he isn't here for the ridiculous money he is earning, because he could very easily manage england, upto to the world cup and resign before it starts, and have loads of money for himself.
I hope he does bring in some English backroom, staff, shearer, ince, and pearce, would be my choice, with pearce as assistant, but i know for one that Gianfranco Zola look's a certainty.
I'll give Capello a chance, as i do with any manager, and he has the potential to work wonders at england, if he sticks to his word, and picks his squad off form, and not big names, who think they can get away with under-performing.
An english manager would have been great, but the sad reality is, there is nobody fit for the job who wants it, the two real candidates for me were, O'Neill and Redknapp, and both didn't want it.
Godd Luck Capello, you've got a big task ahead of you, forst priorty now, qualifying for the World Cup, which is minimum requirement, as was qualification for Euro 2008, which that clown ballsed up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2007 16:20:49 GMT
“Passion” in a manager is overrated IMO. Keegan had it, Pearce did at City and there have been others. A manager doesn’t have to be on the sidelines screaming to be good at what he does.
Capello doesn’t need the money; I’d be really surprised if he’s here just for that. Yes, it’s a factor but the guy is a winner and has achieved loads in club football. He’s just looking for a new challenge and you can say what you like about the current crop of English players and the state of our game but the England job is still a prestigious job to have.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 14, 2007 16:35:25 GMT
The whole "passion" argument is lost on me as well Luke.
What exactly is "passion" jumping up and down, clapping your hands and shouting "come on lads!". Kevin Keegan was passionate, and he was an abysmal England manager. Barry Fry was passionate.
Give me a Wenger or a Sven over either of them any day.
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Post by luke45 on Dec 14, 2007 16:39:59 GMT
I'm not saying it's a MUST have atrribute, but if your in a job that you aren't passionate about, then surely we don't want that?
i'm not saying Capello wont, maybe he will, but i just feel english people have more passion to suceed with there country, rather than a foreign non-english manager, i'm not saying he will fail because of this, his track record speaks volumes, but imo it's also good to have a manager who is determined and passionate about his work, which hopefully fabio is.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Dec 14, 2007 16:46:27 GMT
Capello has a passion for not taking dents to his massive ego, that's passion enough.
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Post by Spiros on Dec 14, 2007 16:52:52 GMT
What worries me is the fact he said Paolo Di Canio had a face like a penis. Well I've seen Di Canio and I've never noticed his face only having one orifice and being surrounded by loose flappy skin! Worrying very worrying and I won't even start talking of a man wearing a tutu.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Dec 14, 2007 19:11:37 GMT
No I'm happy with it! he'll drop the work shy bastards!
No galacticos here!
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 14, 2007 19:14:12 GMT
The conclusion of this thread is as follows:
Barry Fry must be immediately installed as Capello's replacement.
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 15, 2007 1:53:40 GMT
Best bloke for the job in my opinion . The fact of the matter is there is not an Englishman up to the job . There is a welshman up for the job but i want say who i would only be called a rimmer
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Post by tijuanabrass on Dec 15, 2007 4:49:53 GMT
The bloke has to be allowed to choose the backroom team that he feels comfortable with. The fact that these will all be Italian is a sad indictment on the state of the English game. Once more, the FA needs to do some self examination.
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Post by Hairystool on Dec 15, 2007 9:47:56 GMT
What about an English presence within the backroom staff that can speak Italian so he stands half a chance of knowing that they're not just taking the piss out of him? David Platt had a decent go with the Under-21 team. He could act as some sort of link between the players and the coaching staff?
Can you imagine them all there on the training pitch, all with a little interpreter jogging around behind them?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2007 9:52:20 GMT
David Platt most certainly did not have a "decent run" with the Under-21s by anyone's standards. He took over a team that Peter Taylor had enjoyed great success with and got them knocked out in the group stages in 2002 and didn't even qualify for 2004.
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Post by neutron1 on Dec 15, 2007 13:29:19 GMT
Paul Ince?!?!
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