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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 6, 2004 11:12:02 GMT
Depressing. Howard Dean offered a slight alternative. A nominee prepared to discuss social justice and the need for society to cater for the needy. As it stands its just going to be the same old stale cheese.
The voter percentage turnout throughout USA is low. Many of these are, ssurely disullusioned with the political process which offers two sides of the same coin. Deam may have tapped into that consciousness and gained them some unexpected votes. As it stands its just null and void.
As they have decided to rule (dictate?) the planet its still valid to discuss it. I think everyone in the world should vote in the USA elections.
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Post by haj23scfc on Feb 6, 2004 19:20:54 GMT
Dean wouldnt beat Bush though Joe, its a shame nobody over here cares when its very important.
Kerry/Edwards ticket is good but I do like Wes Clark
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 6, 2004 21:49:40 GMT
There are many non voters who don't vote because they have no alternative to vote for. Dean might get a few of the dispossesed to come down on his side. He might not win, as Kery is unlikely to, but he may open the political agenda up a bit.
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Post by ginsoaked on Feb 6, 2004 21:57:21 GMT
Joe, you're are 100% correct. 3 weeks ago Dean looked to be flying. I thought, probably like you, that the 'Michael Moore Factor' had kicked in and that finally the population of America would see the sleaze that is all that both Democrats and Republicans offer.
Billy Bragg got it spot on a decade or more ago with the song "Help save the youth of America". Although primarily about the then war in Nicaragua the song was also a great commentary on the state of the USA as a whole. It was also a doom laden prophecy to September 11th...
Lyrics here:
Help save the youth of America
Help save them from themselves
Help save the sun-tanned surfer boys
And the Californian girls
When the lights go out in the rest of the World
What do our cousins say
They're playing in the sun and having fun, fun, fun
Till Daddy takes the gun away
From the Big Church to the Big River
And out to the Shining Sea
This is the Land of Opportunity
And there's a Monkey Trial on TV
A nation with their freezers full
Are dancing in their seats
While outside another nation
Is sleeping in the streets
Don't tell me the old, old story
Tell me the truth this time
Is the Man in the Mask or the Indian
An enemy or a friend of mine
Help save the youth of America
Help save the youth of the world
Help save the boys in uniform
Their mothers and their faithful girls
Listen to the voice of the soldier
Down in the killing zone
Talking about the cost of living
And the price of bringing him home
They're already shipping the body bags
Down by the Rio Grande
But you can fight for democracy at home
And not in some foreign land
And the fate of the great United States
Is entwined in the fate of us all
And the incident at Tschernobyl proves
The world we live in is very small
And the cities of Europe have burned before
And they may yet burn again
And if they do I hope you understand
That Washington will burn with them
Omaha will burn with them
Los Alamos will burn with them
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Post by haj23scfc on Feb 6, 2004 22:03:31 GMT
Moore i supporting Clark, not Dean
Can't see anyone stopping Kerry now
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