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Post by jordyboy2468 on Mar 16, 2011 15:12:21 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 16, 2011 15:15:40 GMT
The lawyers can fuck right off. He knew what he was doing from the sounds of it (even if he was pissed), why the fook would You go to head a big bin and not expect to come worse off? Yes it's tragic but suing us, piss off and accept some responsibility for Your actions!
edit-he was on drugs too, just fuck right off! ;D
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Post by scfcloyalist on Mar 16, 2011 15:16:19 GMT
He was high off coke too!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 16, 2011 15:18:07 GMT
5 cans of beer, 4 Southern Comforts and Cocaine before the match. He tries to "head" the bin - and his family lawyers are trying to blame the Police and/or the Stewards! You couldn't make it up.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Mar 16, 2011 15:20:10 GMT
I really don't know what to make of this, of course this is a tragic incident. However by the sounds of it he was completley off his head at the time. As for the bins not being secure its a great move by the club to secure the bins down however you don't really expect people to start throwing bins around in a crowed area neither do you expect someone to be stupid enough to try and head one.
It goes without saying that my deepest sympathies go to his family
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Post by n01stokie on Mar 16, 2011 15:21:34 GMT
sounds like his own fault
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Post by Paddypotter on Mar 16, 2011 15:22:04 GMT
This blame society in which we live will only restrict us more and more. Why aren't all the walls padded? just incase someone decides to headbut them, why aren't all hard or sharp things padded? Why are people not wrapped in cottonwool at birth and fed introvieniously...my god, the Matrix is true..
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 16, 2011 15:23:31 GMT
I really don't know what to make of this, of course this is a tragic incident. However by the sounds of it he was completley off his head at the time. As for the bins not being secure its a great move by the club to secure the bins down however you don't really expect people to start throwing bins around in a crowed area neither do you expect someone to be stupid enough to try and head one. It goes without saying that my deepest sympathies go to his family I've lost all sympathy after reading that, it's pathetic. People need to accept these things happen and that they have their own responsibility. The suing culture of America is creeping in here, I hate it. It was tragic but this is a piss take.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Mar 16, 2011 15:25:14 GMT
For fuck's sake.
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Post by bigboots on Mar 16, 2011 15:30:42 GMT
from reading what he drank & took he probably thought he was He-Man at the time & thought he would look hard by heading the bin. just a tragic mistake which happened because his judgement was clouded by drink & drugs.
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Post by tazi on Mar 16, 2011 15:35:10 GMT
If it ever goes to court 'doubt it will' then i can see it being laughed out of court along with the words 'how stupid can a Blackbin Rovers fan be'.
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Post by mark71 on Mar 16, 2011 15:44:44 GMT
Someone needs to get a grip of this blame and claim culture.
He died from his own stupidity. I've got no sympathy for him, it was his own fault. No one else's
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 16, 2011 15:49:19 GMT
The lawyers can fuck right off. He knew what he was doing from the sounds of it (even if he was pissed), why the fook would You go to head a big bin and not expect to come worse off? Yes it's tragic but suing us, piss off and accept some responsibility for Your actions! edit-he was on drugs too, just fuck right off! ;D Does it say that his family are actually attempting to sue us mate, I can't see it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 16, 2011 15:50:29 GMT
I'm not sure but even still their lawyers stance is a joke and it sounds like a pre amble to a suing. Boother is spot on.
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Mar 16, 2011 15:54:50 GMT
Something that sounded like a such a tragic accident at the time now appears like something much, much different. It's a little bit embarassing really, isn't it?
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Post by petemac on Mar 16, 2011 15:55:57 GMT
I knew a family that wanted to sue the Council at Wimbish. Their lad was shit faced and jumped up and tried to swing on a bit of scaffolding in the street but at he swung forward he lost his grip and fell on his head and died, the family said the bar was too close to the pavement and so was in reach of people. At the time I thought WTF is going on in this world? It's like having giant child gates all over the place to stop knob heads from killing themselves
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 16, 2011 15:56:30 GMT
I'm not sure but even still their lawyers stance is a joke and it sounds like a pre amble to a suing. Boother is spot on. Have a second read and consider that it's an inquest where all the parties are entitled to ask questions. If my lad had died and the lawyer I'd instructed on our behalf just said at the inquest, it's okay everybody, we hold our hands up, it was all his fault we can all go home now ... then I'd be absolutely livid.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 16, 2011 15:58:36 GMT
I don't think there has been any talk of suing. But if they did plan to sue they would wait until AFTER the inquest before announcing the fact.
The lawyers' stance does seem to suggest that the family MIGHT possibly be considering action against the club, the stewards and or the Police. Hopefully the findings of the inquest will persuade them that they are not likely to succeed.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 16, 2011 15:59:13 GMT
Perhaps but I'm not like that, maybe if I had kids I would be but from the on set it was an accident and I'd just want it to be put to bed, so I could move on. He headed a bin ffs, what did they expect?
Don't throw/kick bins about and don't head them. Common sense.
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Post by youareallwrong on Mar 16, 2011 16:00:22 GMT
Net gain to the gene pool.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 16, 2011 16:07:59 GMT
Perhaps but I'm not like that, maybe if I had kids I would be but from the on set it was an accident and I'd just want it to be put to bed, so I could move on. He headed a bin ffs, what did they expect? Don't throw/kick bins about and don't head them. Common sense. As John says it's an inquest. The family are perfectly entitled to ask questions about what went on. I don't think they'll have a chance in hell of successfully suing anybody but I also don't think that any level head person could expect them to just 'put it to bed' without hearing all the facts first.
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Post by miltonpotterfan on Mar 16, 2011 16:23:45 GMT
So a knob head junkie dies and its Stoke's fault? fucking mugs.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 16, 2011 16:26:52 GMT
Perhaps but I'm not like that, maybe if I had kids I would be but from the on set it was an accident and I'd just want it to be put to bed, so I could move on. He headed a bin ffs, what did they expect? Don't throw/kick bins about and don't head them. Common sense. As John says it's an inquest. The family are perfectly entitled to ask questions about what went on. I don't think they'll have a chance in hell of successfully suing anybody but I also don't think that any level head person could expect them to just 'put it to bed' without hearing all the facts first. The only new bit though seems that he was smacked off his tits on drugs. The rest was known, again I'd want it putting to bed. It just brings it up again and from my experience of grief I hate that, I just want it done with.
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Post by Gods on Mar 16, 2011 16:53:25 GMT
Injury lawyers for you.
If that isn't the most annoying advert ever I don't know what is.
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Post by dexter97 on Mar 16, 2011 16:57:31 GMT
I've lost all sympathy after reading that, it's pathetic. People need to accept these things happen and that they have their own responsibility. The suing culture of America is creeping in here, I hate it. It was tragic but this is a piss take. It's been creeping in for a long time, and I'd suggest it's now almost as bad here as in the States. Apart from making the scumbag ambulance-chasing lawyers rich, the whole culture impedes medical professionals and emergency services, who are increasingly risk-averse and often afraid to carry out any action that isn't "by-the-book", however beneficial it might be.
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Post by blurtonboy66 on Mar 16, 2011 17:10:33 GMT
As John says it's an inquest. The family are perfectly entitled to ask questions about what went on. I don't think they'll have a chance in hell of successfully suing anybody but I also don't think that any level head person could expect them to just 'put it to bed' without hearing all the facts first. The only new bit though seems that he was smacked off his tits on drugs. The rest was known, again I'd want it putting to bed. It just brings it up again and from my experience of grief I hate that, I just want it done with. If he was that much off his head on smack or whatever how on earth did he gain entrance to the ground?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 16, 2011 17:13:17 GMT
The only new bit though seems that he was smacked off his tits on drugs. The rest was known, again I'd want it putting to bed. It just brings it up again and from my experience of grief I hate that, I just want it done with. If he was that much off his head on smack or whatever how on earth did he gain entrance to the ground? Maybe he hid it well? There is only one person at fault here and that's the bloke that died. EDIT-the bloke that kicked is to blame too, sorry. What a fucking stupid thing to do.
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Post by hjwscfc on Mar 16, 2011 17:24:32 GMT
He was pissed, and smacked off his tits, I'm afraid they should just live with the fact that he died doing something incredibly stupid!! Life's shit, harsh but what do you expect when you head a plastic bin!
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Post by GrandStokie on Mar 16, 2011 17:29:44 GMT
WTF, how many people on this board have been pissed and done stupid things, I have and I'm pretty damned sure most others have as well, does that warrant a death penalty...hardly. Okay so heading a bin proved to be the biggest mistake this guy ever made but is there really any need for some of the comments on this thread. Some of you lot are heartless bastards.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Mar 16, 2011 17:31:44 GMT
The comments have obviously been modded out mate, just leave it now.
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