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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 26, 2011 21:38:52 GMT
WAS a talented young footballer, not anymore just like Eduardo isnt. Hopefully Birmingham will cripple a few more tomorrow. You wonder why the media slate you lot? It's attitudes & comments like this... The media don't slate us for the odd naughty comment on a messageboard. We've been pigeonholed since very early in our first season, and each mildly contentious thing on the pitch is picked up on to supposedly corroborate this impression of us. They are few and far between because we really are "not that type of team" (I know that winds the Arses up ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) ) It fits the picture they want to paint. We've been unfairly pigeonholed from very early in the piece. We play very, very direct, uglyish, set-piece-based football - but, for some reason, this has been ridiculously conflated with 'brutish' or overly physical football, as if they were one in the same thing. Nothing could be further from the truth. Where as, with Arsenal, the narrative the media want is of the team of brittle, supremely talented waifs being bullied by the neanderthals. And the whole media game around them is played to that end. Elements that don't fit with that narrative aren't held up to the same scrutiny ot highlighted One thing's for sure, if you were making a compilation of 'interesting' on-field antics and challenges over the last 12 months, it would be a lot easier to fill a youtube montage with...er...questionable contributions from Messrs Fabregas, Wilshere, Eboue and Diaby than our lot.
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Feb 26, 2011 21:40:35 GMT
Jack Wilshere just broke a young girl's arm and you chant his name? He also abuses 60 year old taxi drivers. That doesnt count, Wenger didn't see it.
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Post by Beardy200 on Feb 26, 2011 21:41:43 GMT
As i said above, you are judging the injury and not the tackle.
This tackle is loads worse than Ryan's and yet because Ronaldo got up it's all forgotten. Gallas on Davies was another shocker. Vieira made loads and there are plenty more.
You've been very unlucky because your players have suffered bad breaks and been lucky your players haven't broken a couple but that's all it is. Some players get lucky and get up and others don't. It still doesn't make Ryan's tackle worse than the one above.
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Post by dan85 on Feb 26, 2011 21:43:14 GMT
You wonder why the media slate you lot? It's attitudes & comments like this... The media don't slate us for the odd naughty comment on a messageboard. We've been pigeonholed since very early in our first season, and each mildly contentious thing on the pitch is picked up on tosupposedly corroborate this impression of us. It fits the picture they weant to paint. We've been unfairly pigeonholed from very early in the piece. We play very, very direct football - but, for some reason, this has been ridiculously conflated with 'brutish' or overly physical football, as if they were one in the same. Nothing could be further from the truth. Where as, with Arsenal, the narrative the media want is of the team of brittle, talented waifs being bullied by the neanderthals. And the whole media game aroudn them is played to that end. One thing's for sure, if you were making a compilation of 'interesting' on-field antics and challenges over the last 12 months, it would be a lot easier to fill a youtube montage with...er...questionable contributions from Messrs Fabregas, Wilshere, Eboue and Diaby than our lot. It's a hell of a long shot to try & change the way the media paint a club but cutting out the cuntish comments like "I hope we inflict some more career ending injuries on them in May" or wishing terrorist bombs on tomorrow's final has gotta be just a tiny, tiny step in the right direction? Then on the football side of things, get the ball down on the floor a bit more. The Premier League is meant to be an advert for the best, most unpredictable football on earth & you lot are trying to throw the ball into the net from the half way line?! Bolton were derided in the same way, media opinion of them has changed greatly since Coyle took over & tbh they're been playing some fantastic stuff this season. West Brom too, they completely outplayed us at our place. It's by no means quick or easy, but there are ways to change media perceptions...
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Feb 26, 2011 21:45:02 GMT
The media don't slate us for the odd naughty comment on a messageboard. We've been pigeonholed since very early in our first season, and each mildly contentious thing on the pitch is picked up on tosupposedly corroborate this impression of us. It fits the picture they weant to paint. We've been unfairly pigeonholed from very early in the piece. We play very, very direct football - but, for some reason, this has been ridiculously conflated with 'brutish' or overly physical football, as if they were one in the same. Nothing could be further from the truth. Where as, with Arsenal, the narrative the media want is of the team of brittle, talented waifs being bullied by the neanderthals. And the whole media game aroudn them is played to that end. One thing's for sure, if you were making a compilation of 'interesting' on-field antics and challenges over the last 12 months, it would be a lot easier to fill a youtube montage with...er...questionable contributions from Messrs Fabregas, Wilshere, Eboue and Diaby than our lot. It's a hell of a long shot to try & change the way the media paint a club but cutting out the cuntish comments like "I hope we inflict some more career ending injuries on them in May" or wishing terrorist bombs on tomorrow's final has gotta be just a tiny, tiny step in the right direction? Then on the football side of things, get the ball down on the floor a bit more. The Premier League is meant to be an advert for the best, most unpredictable football on earth & you lot are trying to throw the ball into the net from the half way line?! Bolton were derided in the same way, media opinion of them has changed greatly since Coyle took over & tbh they're been playing some fantastic stuff this season. West Brom too, they completely outplayed us at our place. It's by no means quick or easy, but there are ways to change media perceptions... why are you on here?
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Post by PoisonedDonkey on Feb 26, 2011 21:45:49 GMT
The media don't slate us for the odd naughty comment on a messageboard. We've been pigeonholed since very early in our first season, and each mildly contentious thing on the pitch is picked up on tosupposedly corroborate this impression of us. It fits the picture they weant to paint. We've been unfairly pigeonholed from very early in the piece. We play very, very direct football - but, for some reason, this has been ridiculously conflated with 'brutish' or overly physical football, as if they were one in the same. Nothing could be further from the truth. Where as, with Arsenal, the narrative the media want is of the team of brittle, talented waifs being bullied by the neanderthals. And the whole media game aroudn them is played to that end. One thing's for sure, if you were making a compilation of 'interesting' on-field antics and challenges over the last 12 months, it would be a lot easier to fill a youtube montage with...er...questionable contributions from Messrs Fabregas, Wilshere, Eboue and Diaby than our lot. It's a hell of a long shot to try & change the way the media paint a club but cutting out the cuntish comments like "I hope we inflict some more career ending injuries on them in May" or wishing terrorist bombs on tomorrow's final has gotta be just a tiny, tiny step in the right direction? Then on the football side of things, get the ball down on the floor a bit more. The Premier League is meant to be an advert for the best, most unpredictable football on earth & you lot are trying to throw the ball into the net from the half way line?! Bolton were derided in the same way, media opinion of them has changed greatly since Coyle took over & tbh they're been playing some fantastic stuff this season. West Brom too, they completely outplayed us at our place. It's by no means quick or easy, but there are ways to change media perceptions... That style of football has kept a team nailed on to go down in the league for a few seasons. Ideally yes, we'd like to change our football but not at the cost of relegation.
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Post by dan85 on Feb 26, 2011 21:49:44 GMT
It's a hell of a long shot to try & change the way the media paint a club but cutting out the cuntish comments like "I hope we inflict some more career ending injuries on them in May" or wishing terrorist bombs on tomorrow's final has gotta be just a tiny, tiny step in the right direction? Then on the football side of things, get the ball down on the floor a bit more. The Premier League is meant to be an advert for the best, most unpredictable football on earth & you lot are trying to throw the ball into the net from the half way line?! Bolton were derided in the same way, media opinion of them has changed greatly since Coyle took over & tbh they're been playing some fantastic stuff this season. West Brom too, they completely outplayed us at our place. It's by no means quick or easy, but there are ways to change media perceptions... why are you on here? The long & short of it is, i'm bored on a Saturday night in lol. Trying to save money for tomorrow. As explained in another thread though I quite often read, and sometimes post, on opposition forums. I find it interesting to read their views & opinions! You're right, I suppose PL survival can only be the main focus. Best of luck to ya then, that's genuine too. And i think you will do West Brom tomorrow tbh...
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 26, 2011 21:55:28 GMT
The media don't slate us for the odd naughty comment on a messageboard. We've been pigeonholed since very early in our first season, and each mildly contentious thing on the pitch is picked up on tosupposedly corroborate this impression of us. It fits the picture they weant to paint. We've been unfairly pigeonholed from very early in the piece. We play very, very direct football - but, for some reason, this has been ridiculously conflated with 'brutish' or overly physical football, as if they were one in the same. Nothing could be further from the truth. Where as, with Arsenal, the narrative the media want is of the team of brittle, talented waifs being bullied by the neanderthals. And the whole media game aroudn them is played to that end. One thing's for sure, if you were making a compilation of 'interesting' on-field antics and challenges over the last 12 months, it would be a lot easier to fill a youtube montage with...er...questionable contributions from Messrs Fabregas, Wilshere, Eboue and Diaby than our lot. It's a hell of a long shot to try & change the way the media paint a club but cutting out the cuntish comments like "I hope we inflict some more career ending injuries on them in May" or wishing terrorist bombs on tomorrow's final has gotta be just a tiny, tiny step in the right direction? Then on the football side of things, get the ball down on the floor a bit more. The Premier League is meant to be an advert for the best, most unpredictable football on earth & you lot are trying to throw the ball into the net from the half way line?! Bolton were derided in the same way, media opinion of them has changed greatly since Coyle took over & tbh they're been playing some fantastic stuff this season. West Brom too, they completely outplayed us at our place.
It's by no means quick or easy, but there are ways to change media perceptions... We don't play attractive football at all. Pulis is a total pragmatist. And a lot of our fans aren't happy at all about it, and want some kind of middle ground. But it can be exhilerating at home when we just pressure teams until they break. And we certainly aren't dirty. The Coyleisation of Bolton has been ridiculously overplayed, if you actually watch them. They're still in the bottom 3 teams in terms of number of passes and they still try to hit Davies as much as they ever did. At best, they've done some fine tinkering around the edges. And 'events' like that gorgeous goal they scored a few months ago seems to have confirmed them as a mini-Barcelona to the 4 or 5 sheep-like opinion-formers, who don't like to do much original thinking or proper analysis. So it's now apparently uncontestable that they're a completely changed team. I did like watching West Brom, though. But the way they play never seems to get them anywhere near enough points on the board over a season.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 26, 2011 22:01:53 GMT
The media don't slate us for the odd naughty comment on a messageboard. We've been pigeonholed since very early in our first season, and each mildly contentious thing on the pitch is picked up on tosupposedly corroborate this impression of us. It fits the picture they weant to paint. We've been unfairly pigeonholed from very early in the piece. We play very, very direct football - but, for some reason, this has been ridiculously conflated with 'brutish' or overly physical football, as if they were one in the same. Nothing could be further from the truth. Where as, with Arsenal, the narrative the media want is of the team of brittle, talented waifs being bullied by the neanderthals. And the whole media game aroudn them is played to that end. One thing's for sure, if you were making a compilation of 'interesting' on-field antics and challenges over the last 12 months, it would be a lot easier to fill a youtube montage with...er...questionable contributions from Messrs Fabregas, Wilshere, Eboue and Diaby than our lot. It's a hell of a long shot to try & change the way the media paint a club but cutting out the cuntish comments like "I hope we inflict some more career ending injuries on them in May" or wishing terrorist bombs on tomorrow's final has gotta be just a tiny, tiny step in the right direction? Then on the football side of things, get the ball down on the floor a bit more. The Premier League is meant to be an advert for the best, most unpredictable football on earth & you lot are trying to throw the ball into the net from the half way line?! Bolton were derided in the same way, media opinion of them has changed greatly since Coyle took over & tbh they're been playing some fantastic stuff this season. West Brom too, they completely outplayed us at our place. It's by no means quick or easy, but there are ways to change media perceptions... We're not an advert for anyone or anything. As long as we're having fun along the way, fuck everyone else.
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Post by Beardy200 on Feb 26, 2011 22:04:12 GMT
Bob on FM. I'm as honest as they come about my team and bias doesn't come into it.
We play long ball. Our defenders and central midfielders can't trap a bag of cement or pass wind. We often play for ground down the touchline so if it gets cleared we end up with the bonus of a throw in. We very rarely play pretty football. We are very fit and very tough. The towel is a fucking joke.
All the above are very fair comments that any opposing fan could say to me and i would agree with them
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We are not dirty at all and that reputation is grossly unfair.
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Post by firkthefox on Feb 26, 2011 22:06:40 GMT
I think we could sell 50,000 tickets for the Arsenal game in May. Not very practical, though ;D Im desperate to be in a position where taking 3 points off them will cost them dearly. As long as we aren't in dire need of the points ourselkvesm, which I sense we may be Look at any forum and they have insulted our club,our players ,our manager and our fans. and we don't insult otehr fans ?
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Post by GallysGuitar on Feb 27, 2011 0:44:51 GMT
Brought up the Arsenal way
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Feb 27, 2011 0:51:40 GMT
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Post by KevinWhimper on Feb 27, 2011 1:48:18 GMT
Total football?
Hypocritical cunts, fucking scum of the Earth that greasy twat is.
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