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Post by evans1863 on Dec 22, 2010 4:09:53 GMT
Tuncay isnt a great player. He doesnt fit in here. Hes too wank at finishing to play the Fuller role, obviously cant play the KJ/Mama role. Too lightweight for the wings and his delivery isnt good enough anyway. Never in a million years a TP CM. Get rid and with the space he's freed up bring in Cameron Jerome.
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Post by monkeycat on Dec 22, 2010 8:46:38 GMT
As I posted on the new signings thread a couple of days ago, the Pennant deal WILL happen
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Post by Winge on Dec 22, 2010 8:52:27 GMT
As I posted on the new signings thread a couple of days ago, the Pennant deal WILL happen How can u be so sure??
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Post by Binndy on Dec 22, 2010 10:22:24 GMT
according to the daily mail we have offered only 2.6m .
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Post by Binndy on Dec 22, 2010 11:23:18 GMT
zaragoza are after giovani dos santos who can play wing/second striker so fingers crossed looking good to me
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 22, 2010 11:38:41 GMT
Pennant suits Stoke whereas Tuncay does not. He was a decent experiment, but ultimately just didn't work out.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Dec 22, 2010 11:40:12 GMT
Buddle gets a mention on the 5 live world football phone in this week actually www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/wfCan't remember which of the 73 minutes it is in mind. Basically a caller asks who could be the next big thing in the prem and the US correspondant Shaun Wheelock names Buddle despite him being pretty old. He may just bring it up because he's also linked to Birmingham though.
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Post by heavysoul on Dec 22, 2010 11:55:10 GMT
Stoke are close to tying up a £2. m deal with Real Zaragoza for Jermaine Pennant. (SSN - Paper talk Daily Mail) ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by stokester1989 on Dec 22, 2010 12:19:01 GMT
hope so .. be quality
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Post by lordb on Dec 22, 2010 12:25:13 GMT
waitingforwaddo you've expressed your opinion that he's overated
you've been challenged to say which right winger you think we should go for for the same sort of money (lets say upto £5m)
go on name that player who you think is better & we could get for that budget.
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Post by RINGO STARR on Dec 22, 2010 12:33:22 GMT
Tuncay isnt a great player. He doesnt fit in here. Hes too wank at finishing to play the Fuller role, obviously cant play the KJ/Mama role. Too lightweight for the wings and his delivery isnt good enough anyway. Never in a million years a TP CM. Get rid and with the space he's freed up bring in Cameron Jerome. Absolute rubbish! Tuncay is a good player. He's proved on several occassions that he can score goals when called upon, that he can make goals from nothing and that his work rate is as good as anybodys at the football club. There aren't many players in our squad who would have made the goal for Matty Etherington against Man Citeh with seconds remaining on the clock. That's why he'd be difficult to replace should we try and replace him with another Jones/Mama or a worker like walters/Cresswell. We must remember that primarily Tuncay Sanli is a striker who can play behind teh front two,in the hole (ooh eer Missus). Had he have been given that role on a more regular basis by Pulis we'd have seen just how much he can offer this team. I'm not saying he should be starting ahead of Fuller or Jones before this argument comes into the equation but he should definitely be given more opportunities when the aforementioned players are under-performing or injured etc. Anybody who would want Cameron Jerome over Tuncay is either fed acid for breakfast or has a tendancy to write complete and utter shite on internet forums.
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Post by mistersausage on Dec 22, 2010 13:12:55 GMT
What has surprised me about Pennant is his attitude which is very good and his work ethic, which is much higher than I'd expected.
We need to sign him up as quickly as we can.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 22, 2010 13:17:39 GMT
The reports from Zaragoza seem to be indicating it's 99.9% done, so it looks like we can rest easy on this one now
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Post by gilberto on Dec 22, 2010 13:27:48 GMT
will he be able to play against everton on new years day?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 22, 2010 13:31:53 GMT
will he be able to play against everton on new years day? If the deal is agreed I would have thought they could simply extend the loan even if if the paperwork and clearance of the transfer has to wait a few days.
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Post by Beardy200 on Dec 22, 2010 13:31:58 GMT
What has surprised me about Pennant is his attitude which is very good and his work ethic, which is much higher than I'd expected. We need to sign him up as quickly as we can. Very true. His effort and intelligence in defence has surprised me massively. The only disappointment i have with him is he doesn't seem to have that frightening turn of pace that he used to have.
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Post by youareallwrong on Dec 22, 2010 13:38:20 GMT
What has surprised me about Pennant is his attitude which is very good and his work ethic, which is much higher than I'd expected. We need to sign him up as quickly as we can. Very true. His effort and intelligence in defence has surprised me massively. The only disappointment i have with him is he doesn't seem to have that frightening turn of pace that he used to have. I think he may have, Beardy, but maybe his hamstring's a bit delicate at the moment, so he can't risk it. We'll just have to wait and see. By the way, although I was almost embarrassingly in favour of Tuncay when he arrived, he's done very little to deserve a regular place; too much of a show-pony, and doing a lot of running isn't necessarily the same as working aaaaaarrrrrdddd!
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Post by griffoisalegend on Dec 22, 2010 13:49:16 GMT
Tuncay isnt a great player. He doesnt fit in here. Hes too wank at finishing to play the Fuller role, obviously cant play the KJ/Mama role. Too lightweight for the wings and his delivery isnt good enough anyway. Never in a million years a TP CM. Get rid and with the space he's freed up bring in Cameron Jerome. Absolute rubbish! Tuncay is a good player. He's proved on several occassions that he can score goals when called upon, that he can make goals from nothing and that his work rate is as good as anybodys at the football club. There aren't many players in our squad who would have made the goal for Matty Etherington against Man Citeh with seconds remaining on the clock. That's why he'd be difficult to replace should we try and replace him with another Jones/Mama or a worker like walters/Cresswell. We must remember that primarily Tuncay Sanli is a striker who can play behind teh front two,in the hole (ooh eer Missus). Had he have been given that role on a more regular basis by Pulis we'd have seen just how much he can offer this team. I'm not saying he should be starting ahead of Fuller or Jones before this argument comes into the equation but he should definitely be given more opportunities when the aforementioned players are under-performing or injured etc. Anybody who would want Cameron Jerome over Tuncay is either fed acid for breakfast or has a tendancy to write complete and utter shite on internet forums. Tuncay's a more creative footballer than Jerome. But i'd prefer the latter in a Stoke side, i really would. As the poster who you quoted said - he can't play any of the roles which Pulis uses so he's never going to make here is he? There never has, and never will be an attacking midfielder playing behind two forwards in a Pulis side, our success in the last 2 years has come without Tuncay so I'm not bothered if he leaves or stays. Pennant's a top right midfielder who couldn't have impressed me anymore than he has - he's been every inch a top class player since he's been here and I just hope we can get a deal done before another team wises up.
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Post by fromafar07 on Dec 22, 2010 15:05:01 GMT
Pennant suits Stoke whereas Tuncay does not. He was a decent experiment, but ultimately just didn't work out. ;D Penannt would suit any team when all he does is run as fast as he can down the sideline and pass it, hopefully, to the head of Jones! whereas Tuncay uses guile and skill to do what he does. that's why he doesnt work at Stoke. dont get me wrong, i like what Pennant has brought us, but for Pulis to just use him that way, Etherington too for that matter, is a damn shame !
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 23, 2010 14:46:30 GMT
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Post by One-Two on Dec 23, 2010 14:52:52 GMT
Good find FM. "Agapito hopes to raise in this operation more than 2 million euros." That sounds a good price for us.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 23, 2010 14:54:17 GMT
That story suggests Pennant will cost "more than 2 million euros" obviously we don't know how much more - but if it is under 3 million euros I'll be well happy. EDIT - I see one two beat me to it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 23, 2010 14:54:30 GMT
Sounds good. 2 million euros and not pounds mentioned too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2010 15:09:05 GMT
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Post by kitkatkev on Dec 23, 2010 20:39:15 GMT
What has surprised me about Pennant is his attitude which is very good and his work ethic, which is much higher than I'd expected. We need to sign him up as quickly as we can. Very true. His effort and intelligence in defence has surprised me massively. The only disappointment i have with him is he doesn't seem to have that frightening turn of pace that he used to have. His tracking back was a very nice surprise
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 23, 2010 21:03:32 GMT
Im sorry but anyone who thinks Tuncay is not good enough for Stoke then i do really dispair.
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Post by actongatestokie on Dec 23, 2010 21:17:17 GMT
Im sorry but anyone who thinks Tuncay is not good enough for Stoke then i do really dispair. It's not that he's not good enough. It's a combination of inconsistency and being the wrong type of player for Stoke. We've tried him in every position across the front four and he's failed as the furthest forward striker and been very inconsistent in the other three positions, aswell as blatantly not delivering enough from out wide whenever he's played there. If we get a good enough offer then we should move him on for someone who does fit us.
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 23, 2010 21:34:52 GMT
Im sorry but anyone who thinks Tuncay is not good enough for Stoke then i do really dispair. It's not that he's not good enough. It's a combination of inconsistency and being the wrong type of player for Stoke. We've tried him in every position across the front four and he's failed as the furthest forward striker and been very inconsistent in the other three positions, aswell as blatantly not delivering enough from out wide whenever he's played there. If we get a good enough offer then we should move him on for someone who does fit us. Inconsistent? I'm sorry but everytime i've seen him he's always been very consistant. How many times is Fuller consistant?
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Post by actongatestokie on Dec 23, 2010 21:36:04 GMT
It's not that he's not good enough. It's a combination of inconsistency and being the wrong type of player for Stoke. We've tried him in every position across the front four and he's failed as the furthest forward striker and been very inconsistent in the other three positions, aswell as blatantly not delivering enough from out wide whenever he's played there. If we get a good enough offer then we should move him on for someone who does fit us. Inconsistent? I'm sorry but everytime i've seen him he's always been very consistant. How many times is Fuller consistant? If you really want to open up that particular can of worms debate then carry on. Both players are inconsistent, but one player is a consistent match winner.
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Post by knype on Dec 23, 2010 21:37:20 GMT
Inconsistent? I'm sorry but everytime i've seen him he's always been very consistant. How many times is Fuller consistant? If you really want to open up that particular can of worms debate then carry on. Both players are inconsistent, but one player is a consistent match winner. Is that because the manager trusts him? Is that because he feels wanted ? Is that because he gets game time.
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