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Post by prettything on Nov 22, 2010 2:16:53 GMT
Totally black!
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 22, 2010 2:44:54 GMT
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Post by bradscfc on Nov 22, 2010 3:24:30 GMT
Jonny in his West Ham days ![](http://www.nufcblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/marlon-harewood.jpg)
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 22, 2010 3:27:12 GMT
Jonny in his West Ham days ![](http://www.nufcblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/marlon-harewood.jpg) Fuck off, that's Clive Clarke.
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Post by bradscfc on Nov 22, 2010 3:28:59 GMT
Actually it's Earl from 'Dinosaurs' ![](http://getnloose.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/harewood_big.jpg)
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Post by sihanouk on Nov 22, 2010 3:35:02 GMT
To be honest he does look half-caste
Not quite Chris Hughton but nearly there
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Post by mumph on Nov 22, 2010 4:16:35 GMT
'half-cast'
Oh that's just a lovely fuckin' description that is. Strewth.
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Post by sihanouk on Nov 22, 2010 4:59:06 GMT
'half-cast' Oh that's just a lovely fuckin' description that is. Strewth. Surprised you haven't complained about the term 'black' see the PC police are out in force ..... ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif)
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Post by mumph on Nov 22, 2010 5:05:10 GMT
No - having mixed race kids I find the term half-cast to be a pretty naff to say the least.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 22, 2010 7:01:30 GMT
Mixed race is fine - half caste is so 1950s. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) Like the original poster I have sometimes wondered if Walters is of mixed race. I think he might have a percentage of black ancestry - maybe 12.5% or 25%. Of course it matters not what his ancestry is - it is just interesting to speculate. It isn't always easy to spot mixed ethnicity. An ex partner of mine was 25% Indian and looked it - but her sister looked 100% white although they both shared a white father and an Anglo Indian mother.
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Post by stokeramblers on Nov 22, 2010 7:10:18 GMT
![](http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38812000/jpg/_38812943_morrisson_pa300.jpg) ![](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/26/article-0-035179AD0000044D-318_468x579.jpg) Jon was delighted to be making his debut for the Republic of Ireland
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Post by jamlander on Nov 22, 2010 7:10:18 GMT
Bizarre this I had to explain to my son yesterday why the term half-caste was offensive because one of his mates was using it to insult a mixed race mate!
To get back to the topic the thought has crossed my mind and I assumed he was of mixed race.
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on Nov 22, 2010 7:12:52 GMT
Always thought he was of mixed ancestry.
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Post by manchesterstokie on Nov 22, 2010 8:12:03 GMT
You wouldn't think it, but Ryan giggs is black (seriously)
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 22, 2010 8:15:46 GMT
You wouldn't think it, but Ryan giggs is black (seriously) I thought everyone knew that? well, not EVERYONE in the sense of all the billions of people in the world, but all football fans know he is of mixed race surely?
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Post by manchesterstokie on Nov 22, 2010 8:50:27 GMT
i only knew about it last week! i dont this he looks mixed race at all!
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Post by jen on Nov 22, 2010 8:58:57 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me if Jon Walters had some black ancestry.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Nov 22, 2010 9:05:47 GMT
Judging by the amount of clubs he's played for, I'd say he has some Irish Gypsy in him, Romany colouring I think.
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Post by rf10 on Nov 22, 2010 9:14:06 GMT
Bizarre this I had to explain to my son yesterday why the term half-caste was offensive because one of his mates was using it to insult a mixed race mate! To get back to the topic the thought has crossed my mind and I assumed he was of mixed race. I didn't even know the term half-cast was insulting, i use it all the time.
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Post by jen on Nov 22, 2010 9:17:07 GMT
Bizarre this I had to explain to my son yesterday why the term half-caste was offensive because one of his mates was using it to insult a mixed race mate! To get back to the topic the thought has crossed my mind and I assumed he was of mixed race. I didn't even know the term half-cast was insulting, i use it all the time. You do know what a caste is, I presume? The term originates from the Indian caste system, where a person of 'lesser' or half-caste would be deemed to be of a 'lower class'.
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Post by trebor63 on Nov 22, 2010 9:18:31 GMT
You wouldn't think it, but Ryan giggs is black (seriously) I thought everyone knew that? well, not EVERYONE in the sense of all the billions of people in the world, but all football fans know he is of mixed race surely? I thought black was a colour! Threrefore Giggs is NOT black! Black is a colour not a nationality! You aren't black if either your mother or father is black you are black if you are black!
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Post by rf10 on Nov 22, 2010 9:19:06 GMT
My friend laughed at me the other day because I claimed the latter. Am I colour blind? Hats off to you son, attending football matches when disturbingly colourblind, that is dedication.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 22, 2010 9:25:12 GMT
The problem with the term half caste is the origin of the word "caste". Caste is Latin for "pure" so half caste is literally "half pure" which could be considered derogatory. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-casteMixed race seems to offend no one. I sympathise with Trebor's colour confusion but you could equally say that white is a colour and (apart from albinos) white people are clearly not white but a mix and match of white, pink, beige etc. Ethnically Caucasian people tend to describe themselves as white and those of african descent tend to describe themselves as black - but many many mixed race people describe themselves as black as well although some don't so calling them mixed race seems technically more accurate.
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Post by tijuanabrass on Nov 22, 2010 9:55:48 GMT
Jonny Walters is Red & White.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Nov 22, 2010 10:00:46 GMT
Its time people lightened up a little ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by murphscfc on Nov 22, 2010 10:07:02 GMT
I thought he had a touch of jaundice as if looks slightly yellow in some pics.
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Post by sovietonion on Nov 22, 2010 10:29:10 GMT
For God's sake. Look: This man is BLACK ![](http://www.tmcentertainment.co.uk/images/speaker-index/SpeakOutRogerBlackweb.jpg) This man is WHITE ![](http://image.minyanville.com/assets/dailyfeed/uploadimage/110210/barry_white_1288707863.jpg) This man is BROWN ![](http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39160000/jpg/_39160532_errol_203pa.jpg) These men are YELLOW ![](http://i54.tinypic.com/xemu6t.jpg) IS THIS CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU ALL? Sheesh!
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Post by Los Alfareros on Nov 22, 2010 10:47:05 GMT
My Mum explained the whole race issue to me when I was about 10, its quite easy. When God made man he used pastry and formed an image of himself and popped it on the baking tray, all were equal inside and had the exact same ingredients. He took the white people out too early so their skin was pale and pasty, the brown people were cooked to perfection but he left the black people in too long so their skin was dark. And for the purpose of this thread, I think John was definitely in the oven for a while ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/ibnJJzaA6ZhfTOIekEAf.gif)
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Post by Dr Oetcake on Nov 22, 2010 10:47:33 GMT
I believe he only has one arm as well...
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Post by stokey spoon on Nov 22, 2010 11:15:00 GMT
Come on everyone - "It just dont matter if he's black or white"
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