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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 7, 2010 14:53:02 GMT
Brilliant win, and a thoroughly superb team effort with everyone contributing something
They have serious problems now, having to win two out of three games to take back the urn
Smith is not a test bowler yet, but can bat, while Hauritz is a decent bowler and a tail ender who can stop there without getting the sort of scores down the order to worry us too much
Johnson may be re-called after his kick up the arse, but is so low on confidence that I can"t see him putting in match winning performances
Hughes is the obvious choice for Katich, but is very vulnerable despite his test average of over 50 including a century in each innings on debut against South Africa
North is another woefuly short of runs, as is Ponting and Clarke
They really have got severe selection problems and if they prepare quicker bouncier tracks, then we are a better bowling outfit anyway
What a dilemma ;D ;D ;D
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 7, 2010 16:29:42 GMT
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 7, 2010 16:37:51 GMT
Ha ha this just makes it even more sweeter ;D
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Post by apb1979 on Dec 7, 2010 16:48:01 GMT
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Post by Chunky Lover! on Dec 7, 2010 17:06:12 GMT
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Post by Chunky Lover! on Dec 9, 2010 12:31:22 GMT
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 9, 2010 18:06:28 GMT
Hauritz got 146 for New South Wales against South Australia yesterday but has no wickets so far. Steven Smith only got 8 but got 4-57 in the first innings and has 2-64 so far in the 2nd innings. Phillip Hughes has continued his poor form and only got 4. He's only got 118 runs at an average of just under 20 in the Sheffield Shield this season. Not the form of someone probably about to play in an Ashes series. You'd think they'd go for someone in form, like Shaun Marsh for example or even a middle order batsmen like Usman Khawaja, he does bat 3 for New South Wales and is right in form (leading run scorer in the Sheffield Shield I think) so maybe even he would've been a better choice than Hughes.
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 9, 2010 20:25:42 GMT
Khawaja had a failure and a first baller in the two innings of the match against Australia A though Sgt.
If he couldn"t step up against our second string attack, will he be chosen for a test?
They have got to come out fighting at the WACA and putting undue pressure on a newcomer may be a bad move, or one they may not want to make
I can see possibly Haddin moving up the order to six, and Smith coming in at 7. Whether they play two spinners with Hauritz at eight, and use Watson a little bit more is open to question
North and Doherty must go as far as I am concerned
Maybe:
Hughes Watson Ponting Clarke Hussey Haddin Smith Hauritz Johnson Siddle Bollinger/George/McKay/Hilfenhaus/
That gives them batting down to nine, two spinners, three seamers and Watson
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 9, 2010 21:09:50 GMT
Fuller - I see your point but anyone can have a bad match and it was a difficult pitch for him to bat on. Khawaja has a very fine record, 6x100's and 8x50's at average of just under 50. Sooner or later the Aussies will have to start blooding the youngsters, North isn't cutting it, so, even though I hate wholesale changes to a side (a la England 1993 Ashes) I think Khawaja deserves his chance. Just personal opinion of course, it's just how I see it.
This is who I think the Aussies should play:
Watson Marsh Ponting Clarke Hussey Khawaja Haddin Hauritz Siddle/Hilfenhaus Harris Bollinger
No way that'll be it though, as Hughes will play and I reckon Johnson will return for 1 of Siddle/Harris/Bollinger/Hilfenhaus. I reckon North's place has been saved by Katich's injury. I think Hughes will get in the team, even though I think someone like Shaun Marsh deserves it more
I only have a basic knowledge of the WACA but I doubt the Aussies would pick 2 spinners, even with Rat Boy Watson as an extra seamer, they might do at Sydney but not at the WACA
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 9, 2010 21:18:50 GMT
I agree that they are unlikely to play two spinners at Perth, and didnt include Harris as he is a fitness doubt
Strange that he didn"t use Clarke at all at Adelaide, must have been something to do with the injury
McDonald can bat and bowl, but does not seem to be in the frame at all
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 9, 2010 21:30:56 GMT
I agree that they are unlikely to play two spinners at Perth, and didnt include Harris as he is a fitness doubt
Strange that he didn"t use Clarke at all at Adelaide, must have been something to do with the injury
McDonald can bat and bowl, but does not seem to be in the frame at all It isn't just the pitch, I wouldn't pick Smith, even at Sydney, as I think our guys would destroy his spin, as he isn't ready for Test cricket yet in my opinion, even if he is a good if not very unorthodox batsman. Yeh McDonald seems to have fallen by the wayside. Even Callum Ferguson for North might not be a bad idea, at least Ferguson has had international experience, he's a cracking batsmen at his best. Clarke's back is still playing up apparently, that's why he hasn't been bowling Harris has been passed fit so he'll play as he was their best bowler at Adelaide, not that that's hard ;D
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Post by tassiepotter on Dec 9, 2010 22:12:21 GMT
Ed Cowan should be in with a shout of opening for Aus, as for the rest I coldnt give a shit, IU dont particulary think any aussie except for Brad Hodge is in form, and he has retired from the longer form of the game.
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Post by PickSCFC on Dec 9, 2010 22:13:18 GMT
Chris Rodgers is an opener and he got shit loads of runs for derbyshire last season, hes quality and has a lot of experiance
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Post by tassiepotter on Dec 9, 2010 22:18:09 GMT
Thats the thing though, they doont take into account what they do in England only on Aussie soil, so Cowan is above Rogers in the pecking order...
If they took into account things like that De Venuto would still be in with a chance...
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 10, 2010 8:43:56 GMT
www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2010-11/content/current/story/491111.htmlHughes in for Katich, Smith in for North, Michael Beer in for Doherty, so a 5 wicket haul and 146 isn't good enough for the Aussie selectors, or maybe it is and they won't pick Hauritz so they don't have to admit they were wrong. Bollinger out of the squad, Hilfenhaus and Johnson back in Squad Shane Watson, Phillip Hughes, Ricky Ponting (capt), Michael Clarke, Michael Hussey, Brad Haddin (wk), Steven Smith, Mitchell Johnson, Ryan Harris, Peter Siddle, Michael Beer, Ben Hilfenhaus. Looks like cityfullergoals is going to be right and they'll pick Haddin at 6 and Smith at 7. I reckon it'll be something like this Watson Hughes Ponting Clarke Hussey Haddin Smith Johnson Beer Harris Hilfenhaus
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 10, 2010 12:56:31 GMT
Yeah - almost got it right, but like everyone else, didn"t see the inclusion of Michael Beer coming
The Aussies have done this sort of thing before
Michael Slater had only had 13 first class innings when he was thrust into the test side, and they were proved right on that occassion
From what I can gather, Shane Warne had a lot of input regarding Beer"s potential, and he also plays his cricket at the WACA
I don"t think we"ll be shaking in our shoes though ;D
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 10, 2010 13:14:09 GMT
Yeah - almost got it right, but like everyone else, didn"t see the inclusion of Michael Beer coming
From what I can gather, Shane Warne had a lot of input regarding Beer"s potential, and he also plays his cricket at the WACA
I don"t think we"ll be shaking in our shoes though ;D He's a left armer I see. Another Aussie tactic to try and get KP worried ;D. The Aussie selectors need to swallow their pride and admit they were wrong to drop Hauritz, he is the best spinner in Australia, from what i've seen, and is a very handy batsman so he should be in the team. You'd think even Steve O'Keefe would get in front of Beer, he looked decent in the Aussie A game from what I saw. Beer has 16 wickets at just under 40 a piece and O'Keefe has 37 at just under 25 a piece and is a very handy batsmen as well, so it's a little baffling to say the least
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 10, 2010 13:25:12 GMT
Agree
I"ve never felt sympathy for any Aussie (apart from Di Venuto, Rogers and Dean Jones cos they played for my team Derbyshire ;D), but I really do think Hauritz has had a really rough deal
Warney got right up Pontings nose with his remarks on the fields set for Hauritz in India, and quite rightly so
They have used 10 spinners since the great man hung up his whites on the test circuit, and in all fairness Hauritz has out performed them all
I wonder what Stuart McGill thinks of all this. His wicket taking record was phenomenal, and on a par with Warnes when he was picked as a second spinner or replacement when Warne was out, yet he was never ever going to shift the main man.
I bet he wished he was born ten years later
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 10, 2010 13:37:08 GMT
Agree
I"ve never felt sympathy for any Aussie (apart from Di Venuto, Rogers and Dean Jones cos they played for my team Derbyshire ;D), but I really do think Hauritz has had a really rough deal
Warney got right up Pontings nose with his remarks on the fields set for Hauritz in India, and quite rightly so
They have used 10 spinners since the great man hung up his whites on the test circuit, and in all fairness Hauritz has out performed them all
I wonder what Stuart McGill thinks of all this. His wicket taking record was phenomenal, and on a par with Warnes when he was picked as a second spinner or replacement when Warne was out, yet he was never ever going to shift the main man.
I bet he wished he was born ten years later I bet there's quite a few Aussies who wish they were born 10 years later. Darren Lehmann, Stuart Law, Michael Di Venuto, Stuart MacGill to name 4. Rogers only played 1 test didn't he I think against India? That's hardly enough time, with a first class average of over 50 and consistently scoring runs you'd think he'd get ahead of the likes of Cowan. Di Venuto is another one who missed out on a career, shame, he was a fantastic player. I always dread it when Di Venuto plays against my team, Yorkshire, he always gets runs against us.
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 10, 2010 18:15:48 GMT
Yeah - almost got it right, but like everyone else, didn"t see the inclusion of Michael Beer coming
The Aussies have done this sort of thing before
Michael Slater had only had 13 first class innings when he was thrust into the test side, and they were proved right on that occassion
From what I can gather, Shane Warne had a lot of input regarding Beer"s potential, and he also plays his cricket at the WACA
I don"t think we"ll be shaking in our shoes though ;D Warne's input was to suggest they pick the local boy on his home ground, Beer is from Queensland and has 16 first class wickets (5 of those against England) it would seem Warney didn't know that much about him either ;D
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Post by salopstick on Dec 10, 2010 18:30:33 GMT
mitchell johnson
*snigger*
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 13, 2010 14:25:49 GMT
Nathan Hauritz has sold all his Australian jumpers and caps in a garage sale held outside his flat in Sydney
When asked by the media why he was doing it, he replied
"I don"t play for them anymore"
PISSER
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Dec 13, 2010 16:12:58 GMT
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 13, 2010 19:30:13 GMT
Nice to see Hauritz has taken his Ashes snub in good spirit
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Post by salopstick on Dec 13, 2010 20:46:40 GMT
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Post by redgate on Dec 14, 2010 14:27:38 GMT
We kick in again tommorow morning i expect england to be dissapointed witha draw this time, whon would you likie to see replace broad? id love to see tremlett have a chance on what will be a bouncy waca wicket but i reckon staruss and flowere may go with bresnan?
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 14, 2010 14:34:24 GMT
In the last ten knocks at the WACA we have only scored over 300 on ONE occasion
In years gone by, we may have strengthened the batting order, but now I think we are so full of confidence that we expect to knock the Aussies over, rather than play safe
So I think Tremlett is nailed on to play
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Dec 14, 2010 19:50:27 GMT
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Post by boothy on Dec 15, 2010 4:36:18 GMT
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Post by tassiepotter on Dec 15, 2010 5:52:57 GMT
Has that had its final cut? if so I think they are playing into our hands not theirs. It will only be green for the first day, and I really dont think they have the bowlers to use a deck like that...
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