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Post by sutekh on Mar 29, 2008 17:06:36 GMT
Mark my words!!!
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Post by luke45 on Mar 29, 2008 17:07:22 GMT
Mark my Words, negativity like that will get us nowhere!
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Post by lust4life on Mar 29, 2008 17:09:19 GMT
Beginning to agree with this as we not taking our chances and winning games .We drawing to many and this is not good enough. Griffin is a donkey and shouldnt be in the side let alone captain and why sit back on a 1-0 lead.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2008 17:11:00 GMT
We are out of form and it is very worrying, we are doing our level best to chuck it away!!!
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Post by sutekh on Mar 29, 2008 17:11:16 GMT
This is not negativity. This is realism.
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Post by swisstony on Mar 29, 2008 17:12:47 GMT
A bit harsh to blame it all on TP.
Have to agree with the Griffin comment. Doesn't even look good going forward like he used to
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Post by luke45 on Mar 29, 2008 17:13:52 GMT
Did anyone honestly think the run-in was going to be a bed of roses?
It NEVER was going to be we were NEVER going to win every game, we are stoke, things are never straight forward we all know that, but that takes nothing away from the fact, that as it stands we are going up, and despite points being dropped, we need to remain positive, get behind the team, and the manager, and show the fans, we having stopped believing, we haven't given up hope, and we believe we are going up.
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Post by stokemark on Mar 29, 2008 17:13:54 GMT
I do think his negative approach rubs off on the players and damages their confidence
TP is a 'back to the wall' motivator and it does appear his ability to motivate when we are 'on the up' seems to be questionable
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Post by swisstony on Mar 29, 2008 17:15:55 GMT
The thing that does concern me is how TP brings one player on and then moves 3 others out of position. Must be confusing for the players
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Post by sutekh on Mar 29, 2008 17:17:47 GMT
Pulis is a one trick pony and clubs know how to play us.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 29, 2008 17:26:46 GMT
Funny how you pop up when we are struggling a little.
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Post by swisstony on Mar 29, 2008 17:32:29 GMT
We have missed Ricardo and I am looking forward to seeing him and Ameobi linking up. If we win the next 5 we will go up. If we end up in the playoffs TP has now got the players who can go all the way.
Let's judge TP at the end of the season.
In the meantime belief is needed by fans and players
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Post by stokie01 on Mar 29, 2008 17:34:27 GMT
The Pulis-Haters Rise Up Again When We Start Playing Bad...Mark My Words
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Post by soulstoke59 on Mar 29, 2008 17:34:51 GMT
fuck me don't start on tone,he's 110% stoke city . he's doin all he can trying the best he can. get behind the man he's top dog
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Post by ianrb1 on Mar 29, 2008 17:37:16 GMT
It's disappointing, as are the other results but it is thanks to TP that we are even in this position going into the last five games. We have tightened up defensively in recent games but we are not looking as fluent going forward. I still think we can do it with 11 points from the remaining five games.
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Post by terrytibbs on Mar 29, 2008 17:37:27 GMT
Pulis should be shot ;D
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Post by sutekh on Mar 29, 2008 18:11:22 GMT
fuck me don't start on tone,he's 110% stoke city . he's doin all he can trying the best he can. get behind the man he's top dog Maybe his best is not good enough.
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Post by pez75 on Mar 29, 2008 18:16:58 GMT
The Pulis-Haters Rise Up Again When We Start Playing Bad...Mark My Words Been around for the last couple of months then have they?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2008 18:35:57 GMT
doesnt take much does it - for the rubbish to start all over again
next week, Fuller and Ameobi up front for stoke city -feel better now ?
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Post by sutekh on Mar 29, 2008 18:40:43 GMT
doesnt take much does it - for the rubbish to start all over again next week, Fuller and Ameobi up front for stoke city -feel better now ? Next week fuller and sidibe up front and pulis in charge. No!!!
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Post by serpico on Mar 29, 2008 18:44:26 GMT
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Post by serpico on Mar 29, 2008 18:53:31 GMT
It has been very frustrating that we've failed to capitalize on other teams failing over the past few weeks, i mean if we'd have shaped up we could well be 4/5 maybe 6 points clear of the pack, but we do need to put this into perspective, nobody thought we'd be in this position at this stage of the season, most would have been happy with a play off place at the start of the season.
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Post by MrMagic on Mar 29, 2008 19:02:16 GMT
It's disappointing, as are the other results but it is thanks to TP that we are even in this position going into the last five games. We have tightened up defensively in recent games but we are not looking as fluent going forward. I still think we can do it with 11 points from the remaining five games. For once Ian - I find myself agreeing with you. The thing that genuinely concerns me though is that Tony does tend to get teams to sit on one-goal leads. People seem to think that the players sit back of their own volition, but he's managed Stoke teams with very differing blends of skill and ability and this is the one characteristic that unites them all. I cannot accept that he is not responsible for this approach. If our defending was better it'd be OK, but we never look solid enough to shut up shop. If he is serious about "going for it", as his comments indicated earlier in the week, then he needs to do more than field attack minded players. We need to be pressing the opposition more, not backing off and letting them on to us. And this isn't an anti-pulis comment, because I feel that we were playing that way 8 or so weeks ago, we just seem to have lost our confidence. We'll still do it though - I hope
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2008 19:04:47 GMT
So many times this season, Ive seen Pulis waving his midfielders to get ten / fifteen yards more up the field instead of standing on their own defenders toes
am I the only bloody one one who sees him do this - when we fall back -its the bloody players - not the blinking manager for chrissake !
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Post by stokeoptimist on Mar 29, 2008 19:13:49 GMT
ukyestony
You are bang on!
Some people just want to blame TP for everything.
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Post by sutekh on Mar 29, 2008 19:15:19 GMT
Little bit on the touchy side are we uk. You have your opinions,i have mine,but name calling c'mon. God i just love the moral highground.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 29, 2008 19:15:59 GMT
So many times this season, Ive seen Pulis waving his midfielders to get ten / fifteen yards more up the field instead of standing on their own defenders toes am I the only bloody one one who sees him do this - when we fall back -its the bloody players - not the blinking manager for chrissake ! Are you telling us that the players are match after match disregarding the instructions of the manager, Tony? I have read that right, haven't I?
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 29, 2008 19:18:54 GMT
So many times this season, Ive seen Pulis waving his midfielders to get ten / fifteen yards more up the field instead of standing on their own defenders toes am I the only bloody one one who sees him do this - when we fall back -its the bloody players - not the blinking manager for chrissake ! Are you telling us that the players are match after match disregarding the instructions of the manager, Tony? I have read that right, haven't I? You have Mark. Surely the follow on from this is that the team have got to the top of the league despite of Pulis as they obviously take no notice of him ;D
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 29, 2008 19:23:31 GMT
You are peeking at my cards aren't you Pugsley?
;D
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 29, 2008 19:25:24 GMT
You are peeking at my cards aren't you Pugsley? ;D Great minds and all that
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