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Post by bogus on Feb 16, 2004 18:44:54 GMT
Is it not more likely that they have/will hold a few back to give the impression that more are needed  Also could there be a genuine backlog anyway??? How do we know that today's figure is anything like up to date ??? Anybody Know ??? |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 16, 2004 19:10:35 GMT
Unless someone who works at the ticket office is going to be daft enough to come on the board and tell us I think your questions will remain unanswered.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2004 19:12:26 GMT
May have already been mentioned 5 pages of posts is too many to wade through
But I presume if it's still the case TS haven't had a mail shot on the basis of them sending the club their details to jion this scheme is due to the club's publicised stance that ,that database wouldn't be used for marketing purposes........a point that many on here and many many more in the pubs etc voiced their concerns about at that the time.
If used,whilst the intentions whilst well meaning could further alienate supporters at a time when a togetherness is being sought
The club have several other avenues open to them via shop purchases,home ticket sales,current/previous season ticket holders and a multitude of other ways to build up a customer database and allocate customer numbers without touching this grey area...it's best left well alone and trust the club take note
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 16, 2004 19:16:11 GMT
That's a good point Scouse and I think you are the first to mention it. However, didn't the relevant phrase refer to not passing names on "to third parties" for marketing purposes? In which case the club would be in the clear if they mailed ID cardholders.
You may be right though, that this is the reason they didn't mail them if they were not also on the database for another reason.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2004 19:24:46 GMT
fornside
Yep I think it went something like third parties,just don't think it's worth muddying the waters
Far better to use the details they've got from other sources and then do a big publicity push at the Wigan game to get current non season ticket holders on board
Given the attractiveness of the Wigan fixture they should have several thousand of just the kind of people they hope to attract on a more regular basis there
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 17, 2004 15:09:40 GMT
Just on the official site that pledges have broken the 5,000 barrier. ;D
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Post by griffo on Feb 17, 2004 15:11:44 GMT
Great news!!! 5003 now!!!!! Its more or less 25% new ST holders aswell. I think we are well on course!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 17, 2004 15:16:07 GMT
Only half way through the pledge period as well! It really would be great to double that to 10,000 - although, as well over half the ST holders have now pledged, (3770) it may be unlikely.
At the moment non ST holders account for about 33% of the numbers of pledges that ST holders do - ie 24.6% of the total pledges.
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Post by griffo on Feb 17, 2004 15:21:43 GMT
In theroy if the other 3000 season ticket holders come forward (which i think they will) we only need 497 new st holders!!!! More than possible!!!!
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Post by tel2u on Feb 17, 2004 15:27:54 GMT
Fornside
We are now approaching the 'bite your nails' time, we need the numbers of prospective new S/T holders to start eating into the overall percentage of the total and by the end of the week that percentage could be a crucial indicator for the success or failure of the of the whole thing.
I hope that the 'hoverers' out there start sending in their pledges, because I would hate for it to fail.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 17, 2004 15:41:49 GMT
Tel, I think it was always likely that the ST holders would get off to a better start in the great pledge obstacle race.  The ST holders would mostly be renewing anyway and the target mailings will have convinced most of them to sign the pledge sooner rather than later. I think I am right in that the non ST holders signing pledges has increased (as a percentage of the total )with pretty much every set of stats announced. I think after the Wigan game that will be even more marked. I would not be at all surprised if the eventual figures show the numbers of non ST holders as high as 33% of the total. I am quietly confident but not complacent - I guess I am just that sort of guy! ;D |
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Post by RobPa on Feb 17, 2004 16:30:38 GMT
im sending three in 2mora
1 season ticket holders (me)
2 non-sdeason tickets holders
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Post by penkvillepotter on Feb 17, 2004 16:50:17 GMT
Sorry to piss on folk's chips but by my reckoning, but unless substantially more non season ticket holders pledge then based on the 24.6% so far then we'll end up with 7,800 (working on an existing season ticket figure of 6,300). Hope that's correct!
I stand to be prove dwrong but figures of 10,000 to be signed up by end Feb may be a bit fanciful IMHO.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 17, 2004 17:08:54 GMT
Penkers when the first lot of figures was released the non-ST pledges amounted to 22.8% of the total. The current figure is 24.6% and the figures a few days ago fell between those two figures.
In other words the non-ST percentage has risen with every new set of figures.
There is no reason to think that the percentage will not continue to rise as the numbers of renewing ST holders reaches saturation point.
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Post by Aston on Feb 17, 2004 19:27:08 GMT
Blimey! Think this could be a job for Peter Snow and his Swingometer! Just to add to the confusion: I am a season ticket holder, but there is a remote possibility that I'll be in Plymouth next year!  So I'm weighing up if it's still worth getting one!? £20 return from Plymouth (booked in advance with Railcard), but 10 hours journey time...  Still, maybe Plymouth will come up, so could get to at least one game no probs! ??? ??? ??? |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 17, 2004 19:47:23 GMT
Bad news, Aston. By the end of August I shall have moved up north for ever! The 10 hour rail time has never appealed so I drive up to games. 3.5 hours driving time (staying on the limit) plus any stops I have.  Good news is that, as a "second" team, Argyle knocks the spots of Vale - both the team and the stadium. ;D |
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Post by andyk on Feb 17, 2004 20:33:07 GMT
I think there's a hell of a lot of pessimism about these pledge figures. I still say there'll be a surge of pledges on and after the Wigan game, from both season-ticket holders and non-season-ticket holders, not to mention the inevitable last minute rush, and the overall total will be comfortably above 8,500.
Christ, I sound like the Lib-Dems before a general election.
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Post by Aston on Feb 17, 2004 20:48:45 GMT
Oh shucks! Just looked up Plympton on the map - didn't realise the location! I couldn't tempt you into staying and sharing travel expenses if I promise to get the half-time pies and bovrils!? (Yes, maybe the Oatcake too!?) ;D How about it? Hang-on a min. I have an interview next week and I'm talkin like I'm there already!? Any chance I could pick your brains about Plymouth with a few general questions, e.g. what's it like to live there, male/female ratio, etc! I'll start a new thread on the "Everything Else" Forum, if you would be good enough to add a few comments? Anybody else who lives in the area for that matter? Cheers. Deka PS - obviously won't be offended if you don't........................................................................................................................................................................................actually no I'll be quite hurt!  |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 17, 2004 20:56:34 GMT
OK, see you on everything else
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Post by Coll40 on Feb 18, 2004 14:30:45 GMT
5500 - getting there  de ja vu |
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Post by steelcitystokie on Feb 18, 2004 14:35:53 GMT
3000 to go!!!!! Come on Stoke fans we can do this!
deja vu part two ;D
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Post by penkvillepotter on Feb 18, 2004 14:56:14 GMT
The ratio of non believers has fallen to 24%. Not enough to take Basildon and form a new Government.
David Dimbleby eat your heart out!!
PS - Fornside, it's also bucked your trend theory for teh moment.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 18, 2004 15:00:44 GMT
True - but this is a figure released rather earlier in the day than some of the others - so it doesn't count for trend purposes! |
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Post by penkvillepotter on Feb 18, 2004 15:57:33 GMT
By Christ Fornside, HM Customs gain sure was Politics loss!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 18, 2004 16:00:41 GMT
Sorry to spoil the illusion Penkers but I used to be a County Councillor so my nimble footwork probably comes from politics rather than the Customs! ;D
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Post by offroader on Feb 18, 2004 16:54:10 GMT
Offroaders pledge is in. Just found the new board after major computer probs and wondering why it was so quiet on the snail board.
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Post by mcf on Feb 18, 2004 16:55:27 GMT
when do they have to be in for again?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 18, 2004 17:01:58 GMT
Merkin, you are hopeless - 29th February!  |
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Post by markscfc72 on Feb 19, 2004 1:39:31 GMT
i think that we will make the 8,500 pledges its just like i have previously said i just hope that the people that pledge then honour the pledge and buy a season ticket, they should do though!!
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Post by sheffieldstokie on Feb 19, 2004 9:06:16 GMT
Tomorrow will be the big test. It would be nice if we broke the barrier with people signing pledges before or after the game. Another three coming from me, dad and bruv anyway. Going to involve some slacking out of work early though for weekday games!
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The ST holders would mostly be renewing anyway and the target mailings will have convinced most of them to sign the pledge sooner rather than later.
