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Post by Gods on Jul 20, 2010 12:00:48 GMT
If we can't shift either of our 2 recalcitrant strikers over what remains of the summer, and let's face it you don't get the feeling anyone is queuing up to pay the sort of money we want for either of them, is there any minsicule chance either of them may feature next season ?
I know several people will jump down my throat and say not a chance, they burned all their bridges already with TP and the club but if we have to continue to pay their wages and we pick up a few injuries up front then could it be a case of "needs must" ?
Personally I hate the thought of paying them vast sums of our supporters hard earned money for doing the best part of sod-all, it offends me to the core.
If they do stay we should sort this one out. Just my opinion...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2010 12:04:55 GMT
I'd rather Kitson stay than Beattie.
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Post by Irish Stokie on Jul 20, 2010 12:05:04 GMT
No, i really cant see how either could play for TP again. Both have burned there bridges and we could end up with panic buys like Hulse to replace these
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 20, 2010 12:06:19 GMT
Dangerous, as Kitson has had more Stoke comebacks than Sinatra.
But I'd say they both had 0% chance of ever kicking a ball for Stoke again in any circumstances.
I think Pulis has drawn a line in the sand with the pair of 'em.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 20, 2010 12:07:49 GMT
Dangerous, as Kitson has had more Stoke comebacks than Sinatra. But I'd say they both had 0% chance of ever kicking a ball for Stoke again in any circumstances. I think Pulis has drawn a line in the sand with the pair of 'em. Agreed. Both have been given a chance at one stage or another but I think TP has decided to cut his losses on the pair of them.
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Post by knowles on Jul 20, 2010 12:10:10 GMT
I assume both will feature at Nantwich on Thursday. There will be scouts there, and if they manage to bag a goal or two will surely enhance their chances of moving off.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 20, 2010 12:11:52 GMT
Dangerous, as Kitson has had more Stoke comebacks than Sinatra. But I'd say they both had 0% chance of ever kicking a ball for Stoke again in any circumstances. I think Pulis has drawn a line in the sand with the pair of 'em. Yep, the fact that they didn't board the plane to Austria ,was as clear a signal as any, that time is most definitely up for both of them now.
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Post by theblackdeath on Jul 20, 2010 12:12:32 GMT
I agree both have burned their bridges, but as regards kitson, I just get the feeling that if we persisted a bit with him he could prove to be a quality permiership striker
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Post by ruts66 on Jul 20, 2010 12:15:33 GMT
Once Tone's got the daggers out for someone that's pretty much it I'd imagine...
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Jul 20, 2010 12:16:14 GMT
No chance
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jul 20, 2010 12:17:54 GMT
I agree both have burned their bridges, but as regards kitson, I just get the feeling that if we persisted a bit with him he could prove to be a quality permiership striker How many more chances are we going to give Kitson?? Its time for him to move on, he blatantly doesnt want to be at the club anymore.
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Jul 20, 2010 12:18:23 GMT
I assume both will feature at Nantwich on Thursday. There will be scouts there, and if they manage to bag a goal or two will surely enhance their chances of moving off. Surely they already have deals arranged or to consider. I doubt either will feature at all to be honest but i stand to be corrected. The reason for leaving them at home was to ram the goodbye message home loud and clear if they didnt already know it.
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Post by icarus on Jul 20, 2010 12:20:12 GMT
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Post by apb1 on Jul 20, 2010 12:21:55 GMT
The lack of players leaving is quite surprising:
Dickinson Davies Soares Tonge and Lawrence (and Pugh?) could all be expected to depart this summer, although not as definitively as our two left at home strikers.
If they do all leave we will need some serious rebuilding, I make it there would only be 17 potential first teamers left, suggesting we will need some squad players in addition to next level first teamers.
Is it 31 August the deadline - expect we will only see any movement then....
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Post by mistersausage on Jul 20, 2010 12:23:33 GMT
A family member who lives in Derby says we have been sniffing around Hulse for a while
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 20, 2010 12:26:20 GMT
A family member who lives in Derby says we have been sniffing around Hulse for a while Not again Mr. S; I thought we'd moved on? Let's hope it's balls and not a signal of us struggling to get who we want.
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Post by knowles on Jul 20, 2010 12:30:59 GMT
Aren't Blackpool meant to be after Hulse?
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Post by scfcloyalist on Jul 20, 2010 12:35:29 GMT
if we sign hulse its a backward step, hes worse than beats and kitson!
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Post by realstokebloke on Jul 20, 2010 12:37:00 GMT
Aren't Blackpool meant to be after Hulse? "No offers" (Clough jnr) I gather Knowlesy.
Officially anyway.
We probably head the queue in a covert "rock the city / new striker" deal for him.
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Post by RINGO STARR on Jul 20, 2010 12:53:54 GMT
Hulse as a signing to improve our forward line would be disastrous.
Using Beattie or Kitson if we fail to sell them would be ludicrous as both players do not want to play for stoke. The manager doesn't want them to play for Stoke and the fans don't want them at Stoke.
I'd rather see the two of them rotting in the reserves than have dresing room mither again
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Post by gb on Jul 20, 2010 12:54:34 GMT
Can anyone realy see Kitson or Beattie leaving . They are are on £28k and £35k a week without kicking a ball , would any of you leave ? Dont think so , I wouldn't mind a job like that on half their wages. No they are not stupid , no injuries, no sweat for them and drink as much as they want ...
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Post by RINGO STARR on Jul 20, 2010 13:02:49 GMT
They might be well paid gb but i think they both want out in all honesty.
Granted they'll want to go somewhere on similar wages which is probably the biggest stumbling block in any proposed move but even these pair of selfish tossers would rather play football than rot in the reserves I'd have thought.
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Post by lew86 on Jul 20, 2010 13:03:04 GMT
I think Uncle Pete should just cut his losses with these pair and say we're open to offers for them, becuase they're only going to sit and fester in the reserves for the rest of their Stoke career of they don't move on.
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Post by 606Stokie on Jul 20, 2010 13:05:17 GMT
Hulse I would have as Back up..
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Post by checkmatestokie on Jul 20, 2010 13:06:20 GMT
Knowing the way Pulis works, I'd say Kitson and Beattie have both played their last game for Stoke.
Personally, I hope I'm wrong, because apart from Fuller they're better than anything we've got in the goalscoring department.
I'm sure they'll score more Premiership goals in the future, unfortunately - it won't be for us!
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 20, 2010 13:06:34 GMT
In what is basically a short career in a sport where you absolutely love what you do, the hours are short and achievement is great.
These incentives alone should be enough motivation for them to not piss around. If they would rather sit on their arse for another 12 months rather than play then they aren't footballers.
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Post by scfcloyalist on Jul 20, 2010 13:10:53 GMT
Can anyone realy see Kitson or Beattie leaving . They are are on £28 and £35 a week without kicking a ball , would any of you leave ? Dont think so , I wouldn't mind a job like that on half their wages. No they are not stupid , no injuries, no sweat for them and drink as much as they want ... couldnt agree more with you mate, cant see any of them having a future at this club, but what beats did in the first season was brilliant, just shows when he puts his head to it hes a decent striker at this level, shame about everything whats happened really.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jul 20, 2010 13:11:41 GMT
Can't believe anyone would seriously think that, BT in partic & Kitson also after his public sulks, would ever kick a ball for TP again in anger.
So yes, they may be more than happy to sit & rake it in w/out breaking sweat.
But that said, I can't see anyone at the club can be happy that they can sit on their fat arrises & take the mick & their fat wages.
None more so than PC who's funding their indolence.
It's out of TP's hands now i guess (apart from the odd glowing reference ).
He's got to have said "don't want them. Over to you Scholesy to get rid."
Hence PC must also be putting pressure on TS etc to get them shifted asap.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 20, 2010 13:13:27 GMT
Can anyone realy see Kitson or Beattie leaving . They are are on £28 and £35 a week without kicking a ball , would any of you leave ? Dont think so , I wouldn't mind a job like that on half their wages. No they are not stupid , no injuries, no sweat for them and drink as much as they want ... I'm sure we'll move heaven and earth to shift 'em though. And I'd be amazed if they're still here , one way or another, by September. Even if it means a last resort of a season-loan, to get them shifted and spending the last year of their contracts away from here, with us splitting the wages, or even paying the bulk of it.
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Post by andyscfc09 on Jul 20, 2010 13:13:39 GMT
None of them will play again but if i had to choose would choose Beats he is more dangerous as a striker than Kits
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