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Post by staffordshireknot on Jul 15, 2010 18:53:40 GMT
Good on him, time to give it up for the youngsters. Now only if Terry, Lampard, Ferdinand, James, Barry etc would do the same and kindly fuck off. I would keep Lampard but think Rooney should also retire. He was the worst of the lot. In fact he shouldn't retire he should not be given that oppurtunity. He just should never be selected again.
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Post by shegger on Jul 16, 2010 1:45:49 GMT
Emile Heskey has more caps than Hudson. Greenhoff, Bowles , Worthington , Curry , Le Tissier and Marsh put together , the injustice of it all pisses me off , no wonder we have won fuck all for donkeys (pun deliberate)
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Post by pasa on Jul 16, 2010 7:54:55 GMT
Got no issues with Heskey. Often performed better for England than he did for his club and that's more than can be said for most of the useless pile of piss that is the rest of the squad. Always kept his head down and worked hard and there's a certain admiration for any player who does that. For anyone calling him a useless wanker, I'd have no doubt you'd be a useless wanker given the chance to pull on an England shirt. Completely agree with this. Heskey's been perfectly fine for England, he was the only player to actually turn up at the World Cup as well, while we're at it. I don't like him as a player, he's always been a cheat, but he did his job. here lies the problem with the current england players excluding emile heskey. Heskey is shit so his attitude/workrate and effort get noticed and when playing amongst a bunch of egotistical "i've made it's" who don't have the hunger for effort and workrate any longer, it makes the workhorse that lacks any real quality look good. Richard Cresswell would of had a good game against the USA compared to the other lot, they are hardly Brazil but his workrate and none stop running wouldn't of gone un-noticed when playing with the rest of the england team. What Capello needs to do is fuck off all the "i've made it's" and bring through the next generation immediatley and give them time to play together in internationals before the next tournaments, would a team including the likes of ryan shawcross, joe hart, adam johnson, ashley yong, fabian delph, stephen ireland, james milner, jermaine defoe, jack wilshire, tom huddlestone and darren bent performed any worse at the world cup? i dont think so, i'd bet these players hunger to wear the england shirt would embarass the current lot.
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Post by french toast on Jul 16, 2010 7:56:38 GMT
Emile Heskey has more caps than Hudson. Greenhoff, Bowles , Worthington , Curry , Le Tissier and Marsh put together , the injustice of it all pisses me off , no wonder we have won fuck all for donkeys (pun deliberate) 3 managers have constantly picked him sven (top record) fabio (top record) mcclaren (erm...) anyway the point im making is im sure atleast 2 of these know more about nogger than you. take this world cup for example, we scored 3 goals, heskey has 1 assist thats 33% of our goals have been assisted by the big man, and thats his job, to set them up
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Post by RAF on Jul 16, 2010 8:24:15 GMT
Emile Heskey has more caps than Hudson. Greenhoff, Bowles , Worthington , Curry , Le Tissier and Marsh put together , the injustice of it all pisses me off , no wonder we have won fuck all for donkeys (pun deliberate) 3 managers have constantly picked him sven (top record) fabio (top record) mcclaren (erm...) anyway the point im making is im sure atleast 2 of these know more about nogger than you. take this world cup for example, we scored 3 goals, heskey has 1 assist thats 33% of our goals have been assisted by the big man, and thats his job, to set them up If we hadn't been linked with Heskey you wouldn't have said any of that! You have to wonder why Sir Alex hasn't signed him as he was billed as the best player to play with Rooney? H
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Post by french toast on Jul 16, 2010 8:31:24 GMT
3 managers have constantly picked him sven (top record) fabio (top record) mcclaren (erm...) anyway the point im making is im sure atleast 2 of these know more about nogger than you. take this world cup for example, we scored 3 goals, heskey has 1 assist thats 33% of our goals have been assisted by the big man, and thats his job, to set them up If we hadn't been linked with Heskey you wouldn't have said any of that! You have to wonder why Sir Alex hasn't signed him as he was billed as the best player to play with Rooney? H yes i would, i have been praising heskey for years! he was billed as the best ENGLISH player to play with rooney. BUT in my opinion when it clearly wasnt working at the world cup, i would have put rooney up top on his own, with gerrard in behind and wouldnt have bought heskey on when trailing by 2/3 goals, it should have been crouch with rooney and defoe ffs
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Post by RAF on Jul 16, 2010 8:33:45 GMT
Yes and he was billed entirley wrongly as the world cup proved.
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Post by french toast on Jul 16, 2010 8:54:26 GMT
Yes and he was billed entirley wrongly as the world cup proved. H so its heskeys fault that rooney was shit?? nope, it was the lack of creativity from midfield which meant rooney kept coming deep,
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Post by Will_75 on Jul 16, 2010 8:57:22 GMT
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Post by RAF on Jul 16, 2010 8:59:03 GMT
No it was Heskeys fault that Heskey was shit. One tackle and one assist is all that Heskey did that was any good. You yourself have said you would have put Rooney up top on his own with Gerrard playing behind him, so even in your mind Heskey wasn't in the picture.
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Post by french toast on Jul 16, 2010 9:15:09 GMT
No it was Heskeys fault that Heskey was shit. One tackle and one assist is all that Heskey did that was any good. You yourself have said you would have put Rooney up top on his own with Gerrard playing behind him, so even in your mind Heskey wasn't in the picture. H yup but he would have started against usa, and would have remained on until about 70 minutes. he would have started the algeria, but then i would have implemented plan B at half time when it was clear we were being out played thats not heskeys fault, that he doesnt fit in to a 4-5-1 system is it? and its ok spouting stats, but it doesnt tell the true story does it? heskey was motm imho against the usa, he was everywhere, without greens mistake, confidence would have been high and it would have been a completely different world cup (not that im blaming anyone, we clearly were not interested, and many of the players need to take a good hard look at themselves) rooney had a terrible world cup so i suppose you wouldnt want him here?
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Post by RAF on Jul 16, 2010 9:23:24 GMT
No it was Heskeys fault that Heskey was shit. One tackle and one assist is all that Heskey did that was any good. You yourself have said you would have put Rooney up top on his own with Gerrard playing behind him, so even in your mind Heskey wasn't in the picture. H yup but he would have started against usa, and would have remained on until about 70 minutes. he would have started the algeria, but then i would have implemented plan B at half time when it was clear we were being out played thats not heskeys fault, that he doesnt fit in to a 4-5-1 system is it? and its ok spouting stats, but it doesnt tell the true story does it? heskey was motm imho against the usa, he was everywhere, without greens mistake, confidence would have been high and it would have been a completely different world cup (not that im blaming anyone, we clearly were not interested, and many of the players need to take a good hard look at themselves) rooney had a terrible world cup so i suppose you wouldnt want him here? Hang on you talk about quoting stats not telling the whole story but then start talking about what might have , could have happened? For me Gerrard was the man of the match against the USA. I can understand people being desperate to point out anything good Heskey may have done because we are linked with him. I think he was shit at the world cup, but he's still an improvement on Mama imho and if we get him fair enough, I've never once said I don't want him at Stoke. As for not wanting Rooney because he had a poor tournament, that wasn't a serious question was it? H
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Post by french toast on Jul 16, 2010 9:30:22 GMT
yup but he would have started against usa, and would have remained on until about 70 minutes. he would have started the algeria, but then i would have implemented plan B at half time when it was clear we were being out played thats not heskeys fault, that he doesnt fit in to a 4-5-1 system is it? and its ok spouting stats, but it doesnt tell the true story does it? heskey was motm imho against the usa, he was everywhere, without greens mistake, confidence would have been high and it would have been a completely different world cup (not that im blaming anyone, we clearly were not interested, and many of the players need to take a good hard look at themselves) rooney had a terrible world cup so i suppose you wouldnt want him here? Hang on you talk about quoting stats not telling the whole story but then start talking about what might have , could have happened? For me Gerrard was the man of the match against the USA. I can understand people being desperate to point out anything good Heskey may have done because we are linked with him. I think he was shit at the world cup, but he's still an improvement on Mama imho and if we get him fair enough. As for not wanting Rooney because he had a poor tournament, that wasn't a serious question was it? H no it wasnt a serious question, i still have the usa game and the germany game recorded, watched the usa game 3-4 times, and yes gerrard did have a good game, but i still think heskey was better than him, it is obvious who the more talented player is and we will never ever sign him, i think pulis would get heskey close to how he was performing at his peak, (he has got that knack of doing it) imho i think it will be 2 million spent wisely, as many have pointed out, its going to be a difficult season, and to have a seasoned pro in heskey would not only be great on the pitch but a great asset to have in the dressing room you will probably disagree, i think we dont see football in the same way ;D
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Post by RAF on Jul 16, 2010 9:38:20 GMT
What part of me saying Heskey is better than Mama didn't you understand? I'll say it again, I've not once said I don't want Heskey at Stoke. I just think he was wank at the World Cup and I think people desperately try and big him up on here because we are linked with him.
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Post by french toast on Jul 16, 2010 9:41:40 GMT
What part of me saying Heskey is better than Mama didn't you understand? I'll say it again, I've not once said I don't want Heskey at Stoke. I just think he was wank at the World Cup and I think people desperately try and big him up on here because we are linked with him. H i was onabout all of my previous post, not just one little bit you have picked out
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Post by RAF on Jul 16, 2010 9:46:14 GMT
What part of me saying Heskey is better than Mama didn't you understand? I'll say it again, I've not once said I don't want Heskey at Stoke. I just think he was wank at the World Cup and I think people desperately try and big him up on here because we are linked with him. H i was onabout all of my previous post, not just one little bit you have picked out Right I'm sorry I didn't have my crystal ball plugged in. Like we have agree before it would be shit boring if everyone saw everything the same and all agreed on everything. H
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Post by pasa on Jul 16, 2010 9:51:27 GMT
there are a select few that would defend TP and his rumoured transfer targets to the hilt, not because they actually beleive they are right but just to nail their pulis loving colours to the mast.
stokie1000, march4 and stokelad84 are amongst the main culprits.
if pulis said black was white all 3 would be on here saying the rest of us who don't agree are colourblind.
emile heskey is shit, end of.
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Post by Butters on Jul 16, 2010 10:20:09 GMT
there are a select few that would defend TP and his rumoured transfer targets to the hilt, not because they actually beleive they are right but just to nail their pulis loving colours to the mast. stokie1000, march4 and stokelad84 are amongst the main culprits. if pulis said black was white all 3 would be on here saying the rest of us who don't agree are colourblind. emile heskey is shit, end of. There are a select few that would ridicule TP and his rumoured transfer targets to the hilt, not because they actually believe they are wrong but just to nail their pulis hating colours to the mast. waw, pasa, spiderman and dad1 are amongst the main culprits. if pulis said black was black all 4 would be on here saying the rest of us who agree are colourblind. You talk shit, end of.
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