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Post by stokie25 on Jul 13, 2010 16:50:10 GMT
from a vale fan on my facebook..."i like liverpool but i hate stoke" Cus liverpool are really local to this city, aren't they? Fuck em
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Post by stokie12345 on Jul 13, 2010 16:53:43 GMT
they have. Quite a few times have they im 15 so since 1995 they have ? yep 2001-02 was the last time we were in the same league i'm pretty sure
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Post by shoey100 on Jul 13, 2010 17:34:13 GMT
scfc2010 - yes mate we have played vale since 1995 - we played them most seasons between 1995 and 2002; and we never seemed to do very well agaist the buggers!
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Post by scfc2010 on Jul 13, 2010 17:36:58 GMT
scfc2010 - yes mate we have played vale since 1995 - we played them most seasons between 1995 and 2002; and we never seemed to do very well agaist the buggers! haha every year i pray for a away game at vale park in the fa cup. plus its like a stoke dream to see a away win which ive never done in many attempts so this would be a great chance
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Post by isaaccox on Jul 13, 2010 17:38:24 GMT
They are too small to hate.
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Post by Trubritt on Jul 13, 2010 17:52:03 GMT
Tell you what ask the vale fans what they think of us and then see you if you hate em because i do
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Post by scfc2010 on Jul 13, 2010 17:54:03 GMT
Tell you what ask the vale fans what they think of us and then see you if you hate em because i do well they hate us ut i dont stoop down to thier level
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Post by Trubritt on Jul 13, 2010 17:54:52 GMT
oh and can we please stop having vale posts on this board,if you want post about them go on their board
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Post by scfc2010 on Jul 13, 2010 18:06:55 GMT
oh and can we please stop having vale posts on this board,if you want post about them go on their board apologies
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 13, 2010 19:07:38 GMT
Don't apologise, kick off!
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Post by stokie25 on Jul 13, 2010 19:16:42 GMT
vale beat biddulph vics 3-1 on sunday and they think they'll get promoted now...you all can't appreciate how difficult it is not to laugh at them sometimes (This came from good friends who support Vale...good luck for that ;D )
I always offer VIS UNITA FORTIOR as a retort to anti Stoke rhetoric, yet, to date, none of them have bothered to google it to ascertain it's meaning, and think it's anti vale....you've gotta laugh ;D ;D
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Post by KDT_SCFC on Jul 13, 2010 19:23:14 GMT
they have. Quite a few times have they im 15 so since 1995 they have ? Yes mate im fourteen and seen the vale play stoke twice.
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Post by prettyricky on Jul 13, 2010 19:39:56 GMT
i thought this before for our 'biggest rivals' there's plenty of teams i hate more than them they wouldn't even make my top 10 but i think it's because of the massive gulf in class between the two teams i was like 10 i think the last time i can remember playing vale if they flew up the leagues to the premier i think the rivalry would come back but i can't see it myself
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Post by StokieSC on Jul 13, 2010 19:46:50 GMT
vale beat biddulph vics 3-1 on sunday and they think they'll get promoted now...you all can't appreciate how difficult it is not to laugh at them sometimes (This came from good friends who support Vale...good luck for that ;D ) I always offer VIS UNITA FORTIOR as a retort to anti Stoke rhetoric, yet, to date, none of them have bothered to google it to ascertain it's meaning, and think it's anti vale....you've gotta laugh ;D ;D I'm pretty sure Biddulph Vics beat them last pre season. I used to hate them with a passion, but as we've not played them for almost 10 years they have become almost irrelevant. They hate us more than we hate them.
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Post by DentySCFC on Jul 13, 2010 19:54:27 GMT
Hated them when we were in the same division or they were in the division above. Especially hated them when we 1-0 to them last time we played. Nowadays, don't really hate them, respect them for supporting their local side but still find it funny when they lose.
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Post by bradscfc on Jul 13, 2010 20:10:19 GMT
Not living in Stoke, I enjoyed the rivalry, my first ever game was Vale vs Stoke but I wouldn't say I hate them
My main hate is Preston, followed by Man United
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Post by bristolpotter on Jul 14, 2010 4:42:16 GMT
Fair play to their fans sticking by them, past 10 years they've seen their side go from the old 2nd division and good cup runs to the shit they find themselves in now, I can't really hate them, in fact one Vale fan is worth 20 Man Scum fans, I fucking hate the SHIT, for their bullying fans and everything they encompass.
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Post by Linx on Jul 14, 2010 5:31:15 GMT
Fair play to their fans sticking by them, past 10 years they've seen their side go from the old 2nd division and good cup runs to the shit they find themselves in now, I can't really hate them, in fact one Vale fan is worth 20 Man Scum fans, I fucking hate the SHIT, for their bullying fans and everything they encompass. My sentiments exactly, bristol. Gloryhunters are the worst. True fans who stick by their clubs through mainly thin times deserve respect - even Vale fans. Unfortunately for Vale, they are doomed to always be a small club, largely because of our existence and relative success as the other club in a medium-sized city. Like Stockport to the Manchesters and Tranmere to the Liverpool clubs, they have a finite growth that is intrinsically stunted.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 14, 2010 6:28:29 GMT
I've never hated Vale. I come from the generation who often went to Vale Park one week and the Old Victoria Ground the following week until my mid teens. Then I stuck with Stoke and took the girlfriend out with the money I saved by not going to Vale.
I hated it in those years when Vale were higher up the league than us but I never hated them.
As Linx says, now we are once again established in the top flight and Vale find themselves in the bottom league, things must be tough for them. No way is it ideal for a city the size of Sroke to have two league clubs but I would be a bit sad if Vale went under - I certainly have far more time for their fans than I do for the kids who walk around North Staffs in Gloryhunting tops.
I've never understood why Stoke don't make a habit of loaning young players to Vale - that is the sort of arrangement which would benefit both clubs. I don't know if it is Stoke shortsightedness or Vale pride which stops it happening.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 14, 2010 6:41:52 GMT
This hatred of Vale by Stokies is a modern trend imo. When I was a youngster in 60's my best mate was a Vale fan (he still is and has a seaon ticket every season). We used to go Stoke and Vale home matches together throughout the season. In fact one season I even ventured to a Boxing Day away game to watch Vale at Bradford, unfortunately game was postponed just as we arrived due to snow. We still have loads of banter but deep down both of us have a soft spot and respect for each others team.
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Post by kentpotter on Jul 14, 2010 7:29:39 GMT
I don't hate Vale; Born in North London + 70's semi finals = Arse Anal for me!!!
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Jul 14, 2010 7:33:05 GMT
No real hatred from me either, not the way i hate man ure, l**ds or huddersflids.
I remember the rivalry from the 90s and will join in with the anti vale banter but liv/ng away from Stoke i have no major problem with them, but from the fans ive met, i just find them a bit sad and bitter.
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Post by kinkyjohnfowler on Jul 14, 2010 8:51:05 GMT
I'm 24 and grew up watching the Potteries derby's throughout the 90's. I loved it when we beat them 2-1 at the Vic (Steino pen) which was my first Potteries derby and also 2 days after my birthday. The joy I had when I went in to school on the following Monday was ace, however cue the bitter and twisted responses like 'Steino dived' then sandwiched between them was the 2 cup defeats which made matters worse. Order was restored when we beat them 2-0 at their place, I wasn't at the game but I remember my mum and dad let me stay up late to watch the highlights. Seeing the footage of Bruce Grobelaar dancing in the goal area is something that will stay with me for years. I actually asked him about that at a Gentleman's doo a while back and he just smiled so obviously he loved it too.
After that when they finally joined us it was relatively even steven.aside from 12 second goal and Sheron hitting both posts game.
The thing what really annoyed me was whenever Vale beat us all of their 'fans' came into school wearing Vale tops and scarfs. Half of whom never even went to the games!
Nowadays I don't hate them, but I don't particaurly like them either and at a push I'd sooner see them do better than Crwho. I have a load of mates who are Vale fans (and go games) and the banter we have is great. I do find it interesting hearing of their awaydays to Burton and the like as it makes me think how far apart we are!
The only thing I don't like is that you still get the bitter and twisted one's amongst them who generally despise Stoke.
The clubs I really hate are Arsenal and Stenhousemuir!
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Post by knowles on Jul 14, 2010 8:57:35 GMT
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Post by lew86 on Jul 14, 2010 9:01:03 GMT
I'd think if you were 15 years older, you'd think different. I'm 23 years older and i still don't hate the Vale. My view only changed for a brief period when the little scamps were a bit better than us. I don't want that to happen again but it's a shame the rivalry has completely disappeared now they're so shit. To be honest mate, that comment was a bit of a fish hook to see what sort of response it'd get. I don't care enough to hate them, infact I have a look on ovf every now and again just to see whats "going down". I used to look forward to our local derbies more than any match of the season. Plus my cousin and uncle are Vale fans and they are sound as a pound.
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Post by hitman on Jul 14, 2010 18:29:49 GMT
id prefer stab one in the throat than talk to one of the wankers
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Post by PickSCFC on Jul 14, 2010 19:03:22 GMT
id prefer stab one in the throat than talk to one of the wankers
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Post by peschisolido on Jul 14, 2010 19:50:29 GMT
i dont hate, miles away from us
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Post by goodjobson on Jul 14, 2010 20:08:52 GMT
I was walking home from school once.
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Post by clevelandstoker on Jul 15, 2010 16:56:32 GMT
All it will take is for them to be in a higher division, and you'll come around. So hopefully you never do...
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