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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 13, 2010 22:02:23 GMT
I don't think we can continue to neglect 90% of the world market.
Well, we can.
But we shouldn't.
At least not for an athletic, aggressive, English-speaking bloke who had a blinder of a world cup who has shone in 2 Northern European leagues
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Post by fromafar07 on Jul 13, 2010 22:02:53 GMT
The risk that he is not good enough to play at this level week in week out like the examples that I listed ! we have players now who cant play well week in and week out. Whelan ,Whitehead, Diao, Lawrence etc etc. so dont really see any risk to try some new blood
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 13, 2010 22:05:11 GMT
The alternative is to keep paying inflated sums as the Prem disappears up its own backside and we shell out 3m for Collins, potentially 5 for Whitehead and 7 for Figueroa.
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Post by poc1 on Jul 13, 2010 22:06:17 GMT
Would that be the Blackburn and Wigan who we have finished around or above despite being in the EPL for far less time !?
Perhaps backs up TP's proven EPL policy ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2010 22:08:26 GMT
Would that be the Blackburn and Wigan who we have finished around or above despite being in the EPL for far less time !? Perhaps backs up TP's proven EPL policy ? No, it would be the Blackburn who got into Europe a few seasons ago and the Wigan who have achieved pretty much what we have so far. Palacios for £1m or Whitehead for £5m? Rodallega for £4.5? or Kitson for £5.5m? Figueroa for pretty much fuck all or Danny Collins for the best part of 3 million quid? Not saying we should exclusively look to sign foreign players but it's daft to ignore it to the extent we have.
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Post by Irish Stokie on Jul 13, 2010 22:10:37 GMT
American Roy Keane = American cunt
Looks a decent player in the few games iv seen him in but if ths rumour of the American manager taking over at Fulham are true then I could see him going there
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2010 22:11:12 GMT
American Roy Keane = American cunt Looks a decent player in the few games iv seen him in but if ths rumour of the American manager taking over at Fulham are true then I could see him going there American cunt 2 is better
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jul 13, 2010 22:11:20 GMT
The problem with this transfer is we'd have to pay an extra 20%-30% on his true value as he's just come off a string of good performances in a top international tournament.
The risk would be he'd be the next El Hadji Diouf or Karol Poborsky and we'd be paying over the odds for a player who had a magical run of four of games.
For what it's worth I don't think we'll go for him. Or if we do, I don't think we'll be prepared to pay the going rate.
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Post by fromafar07 on Jul 13, 2010 22:15:24 GMT
The problem with this transfer is we'd have to pay an extra 20%-30% on his true value as he's just come off a string of good performances in a top international tournament. The risk would be he'd be the next El Hadji Diouf or Karol Poborsky and we'd be paying over the odds for a player who had a magical run of four of games. For what it's worth I don't think we'll go for him. Or if we do, I don't think we'll be prepared to pay the going rate. apparently you have never seen him play, he's actually pretty good and is very imaginative unlike anybody(besides Etherington) who currently plays in our midfield !
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Post by poc1 on Jul 13, 2010 22:22:47 GMT
Defensive Midfielder, previously played in Europe, had a fantastic World Cup where he excelled over 4-5 games.
Earned himself a big money move to the EPL.
Step forward......Salif Diao !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2010 22:26:38 GMT
Defensive Midfielder, previously played in Europe, had a fantastic World Cup where he excelled over 4-5 games. Earned himself a big money move to the EPL. Step forward......Salif Diao ! He hasn't just "played in Europe", he's excelled in two different leagues. His reputation far outweighs Diao's at that time. Have you seen him play?
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Post by prettyricky on Jul 13, 2010 22:27:45 GMT
it's not about ignoring the global market im a huge fan of looking abroad especially in the little cracks of the world cus there's a chance you can pick up class talent for peanuts if you look hard enough, you've got to take risks in life to get anywhere 'even losers more than hesitate' but bradley's overrated. i met a yank who followed the national team and he said seeing him play a lot of americans think he only gets in the team cus he's the managers son and watching him i thought it shone through in his world cup performances i really don't reckon he's up to much and i reckon he'd be a hero at first but would vastly become unpopular if he signed he is lee hendrie incarnate
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2010 22:34:52 GMT
it's not about ignoring the global market im a huge fan of looking abroad especially in the little cracks of the world cus there's a chance you can pick up class talent for peanuts if you look hard enough, you've got to take risks in life to get anywhere 'even losers more than hesitate' but bradley's overrated. i met a yank who followed the national team and he said seeing him play a lot of americans think he only gets in the team cus he's the managers son and watching him i thought it shone through in his world cup performances i really don't reckon he's up to much and i reckon he'd be a hero at first but would vastly become unpopular if he signed he is lee hendrie incarnate Yeah, his attitude could be a problem, there is that. I thought that aside from Donovan, he was far and away the United States best player at the world cup. He was box to box, tenacious and tough tackling, but could also pick a pass and get forward and score.
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Post by bostonstokie on Jul 13, 2010 23:46:48 GMT
i met a yank who followed the national team and he said seeing him play a lot of americans think he only gets in the team cus he's the managers son I obviously follow the American team and the American players pretty closely, and I have never heard a whiff of that. On the contrary, I assume it makes it a bit harder on him. FWIW, he had been capped before his father was ever hired. He's already been signed by a Prem team once, Brum, but the deal was nixed when they went down. He also scored something like 15 or 16 goals in the Dutch league - as a midfielder.
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Post by prettyricky on Jul 13, 2010 23:57:37 GMT
i met a yank who followed the national team and he said seeing him play a lot of americans think he only gets in the team cus he's the managers son I obviously follow the American team and the American players pretty closely, and I have never heard a whiff of that. On the contrary, I assume it makes it a bit harder on him. FWIW, he had been capped before his father was ever hired. He's already been signed by a Prem team once, Brum (I think), but the deal was nixed when they went down. He also scored something like 15 or 16 goals in the Dutch league - as a midfielder. well i can only tell u what he told me and that was no one likes him i assumed he knew better than me and watching him i think he was fickle he played well when things were going well but seemed lazy for the most part IMO so i could see his point and i don't think he'd be good over the course of a season
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Post by mailman44 on Jul 14, 2010 0:54:11 GMT
Are we talking about the same michael Bradley? Bad Attitude, never heard that. He does have a temper with officials but not teammates or coaches. He hs been playing consistently well for clubs and country for three years and adjusted very quickly to the Eredivisie and Bundesliga. He can play well in the prem, don't worry about that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2010 7:56:03 GMT
Are we talking about the same michael Bradley? Bad Attitude, never heard that. He does have a temper with officials but not teammates or coaches. He hs been playing consistently well for clubs and country for three years and adjusted very quickly to the Eredivisie and Bundesliga. He can play well in the prem, don't worry about that. He fell out massively with his manager at Moenchengladback but they made up. Would still sign him up in a heartbeat if we could.
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Post by poc1 on Jul 14, 2010 16:37:35 GMT
RVD - I've seen him play in the World Cup, but not before then. Its very hard to judge a player in that time but if i'm being honest he looks like a decent player but nothing more, similar to how Glen Whelan looks when playing for ROI.
You may well be right about him. I understand what you are saying about the world market. I reckon its like any market, higher risk = potentially huge rewards. Wigan seem to have done really well whereas say Middlesborough & Hull seem to have got their fingers burnt.
Ultimately I back TP above others and it's pretty obvious he prefers the tried and tested in the EPL route.
Couldnt we buy Wigans scouts !!?
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Post by peschisolido on Jul 14, 2010 16:42:36 GMT
never heard of him
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Post by pasa on Jul 14, 2010 17:09:13 GMT
US star midfielder. Linked today to Blackpool. Rumoured to fancy a move to the Prem. Scores goals, can pass but also strong in the challenge - bit of an American Roy Keane. If we aren't at least looking at him and he's available, Pulis wants his arse kicking. sounds the dogs nuts he does, will we sign him? no, why? he has no premiership experience is the short and simple of it.
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Post by interestedobserver on Jul 14, 2010 19:07:02 GMT
As for him being lazy. If you look at every player in the World Cup who averaged at least 70 minutes per match, he was fourth in distance covered per minute. I'm no saying distance covered is the be all and end all of player worth. But I don't think you can call the guy lazy.
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Post by magicmanfuller on Jul 14, 2010 19:27:30 GMT
US star midfielder. Linked today to Blackpool. Rumoured to fancy a move to the Prem. Scores goals, can pass but also strong in the challenge - bit of an American Roy Keane. If we aren't at least looking at him and he's available, Pulis wants his arse kicking. Agreed would be a great buy, still at good age and realistic
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Post by mailman44 on Jul 14, 2010 20:47:32 GMT
Never saw anything about a bust up with the Borussia Coach? Got a link?
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 14, 2010 23:08:59 GMT
not sure either Blackpool or Stoke could afford him , I think he is on a good deal in Birmingham
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Post by bostonstokie on Jul 15, 2010 1:27:49 GMT
not sure either Blackpool or Stoke could afford him , I think he is on a good deal in Birmingham Who? If you mean Bradley, he plays in the Bundesliga.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jul 15, 2010 1:51:33 GMT
He would be a great signing for a club like us.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 15, 2010 6:52:23 GMT
not sure either Blackpool or Stoke could afford him , I think he is on a good deal in Birmingham If that comment is a wind up, Johnny, I don't really get the point. If it wasn't a wind up then you really should lay off whatever you are smoking because it isn't doing your brain any good!
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Post by therethere on Jul 15, 2010 6:57:26 GMT
Boscfc, Transfer wise Pulis does need a kick up the arse though doesn't he - totally short-sighted. He signed the players who kept us in the second tier. He signed the players to make us a competitive mid-table+ team when we were tipped to be relegation fodder in the second tier. He signed the players who got us to the top flight. He signed the players which kept us in the Premier League He signed the players which helped us improve in a difficult second season in the Premier League. Yes, he is so so so short-sighted is he is not. Well said Rigs
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 15, 2010 9:32:21 GMT
He'd be a great signing and would look great in a stoke kit! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2010 12:23:55 GMT
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