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Post by antwilkes123 on May 18, 2010 17:16:42 GMT
No offence intended Pugsley but MD was voted as best poster on this board (by a country mile!). Didn't someone recently post you were by far the worst poster on this board? Who's opinion should we agree with? As your American mate would no doubt say "Go figure."
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Post by Pugsley on May 18, 2010 17:49:31 GMT
No offence intended Pugsley but MD was voted as best poster on this board (by a country mile!). Didn't someone recently post you were by far the worst poster on this board? Who's opinion should we agree with? As your American mate would no doubt say "Go figure." No offence mate but why don't you jog on you big baby. Ever since I've mentioned you happy clapping a 7-0 home defeat you've had some kind of mard arse problem with me. Voted the best poster - who by? You and a couple more happy clappers? Do me a favour. Fact - Sidibe plays due to the managers tactics Fact - The tactics are effective No arguments there surely? Another Fact - Sidibe is a poor footballer.
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Post by MrMagic on May 18, 2010 18:09:01 GMT
No offence intended Pugsley but MD was voted as best poster on this board (by a country mile!). Didn't someone recently post you were by far the worst poster on this board? Who's opinion should we agree with? As your American mate would no doubt say "Go figure." No offence mate but why don't you jog on you big baby. Ever since I've mentioned you happy clapping a 7-0 home defeat you've had some kind of mard arse problem with me. Voted the best poster - who by? You and a couple more happy clappers? Do me a favour. Fact - Sidibe plays due to the managers tactics Fact - The tactics are effective No arguments there surely? Another Fact - Sidibe is a poor footballer. Shhhhhh - you are not allowed to say that Sidibe is not very good! ;)It's in the "proper fan" book of rules.
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Post by antwilkes123 on May 18, 2010 18:18:25 GMT
Joking apart pugsley, I don't think you are one of the worst posters by the way. I haven't got a problem with you - you might be a decent bloke. The "problem" is your ridiculous comment. Until you have the bottle to explain why you made it, I'll keep on reminding you about it. To be honest, your consistent defending of posters such as fromafar, who is considered a joke by 99% of posters is far more worrying. You and the ever decreasing minority of TP's critics have every right to say what you think just as I have. Last piece of advice, your attempts at abusing me say far more about you than they do about me.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 18, 2010 18:27:00 GMT
Fact - Sidibe plays due to the managers tactics Fact - The tactics are effective No arguments there surely? Can't argue with any of that. Another Fact - Sidibe is a poor footballer. When he's fully fit, Sidibe plays effectively in our system and our system is effective. If he's a poor footballer, then he is at least an effective footballer for us. There probably wouldn't be much a place for him in other systems, but then Tuncay isn't made into a rubbish footballer by not being able to fit into our system.
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Post by porthillstokie on May 18, 2010 19:12:54 GMT
TP went in2 this season in my opinion with ric & beats as his 1st pairing with mama and tunny as back up &kitson as a spare part !but as beats got fat & lazy, letting every1 down & tp's un-wilingness to pair ric & tunny, & his hatred 4 all things ginger! it only left mama so he had 2be rushed back! so whoever is bort in i cant see mama goin incase this happens again!
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Post by Pugsley on May 18, 2010 19:14:15 GMT
Fact - Sidibe plays due to the managers tactics Fact - The tactics are effective No arguments there surely? Can't argue with any of that. Another Fact - Sidibe is a poor footballer. When he's fully fit, Sidibe plays effectively in our system and our system is effective. If he's a poor footballer, then he is at least an effective footballer for us. There probably wouldn't be much a place for him in other systems, but then Tuncay isn't made into a rubbish footballer by not being able to fit into our system. Never mentioned Tuncay. In fact I was one of the first ones who questioned his signing - where was he going to play and questioned his ability despite the masses on here jizzing themselves. Tuncay has ability but he is/was never going to fit into a Pulis side. Sidibe is a poor footballer IMHO. Technically he is weak, doesn't win that much in the air for his size, a shocking goalscoring record WHATEVER division he is in and he has no awareness on the pitch. He's awkward for the opposition and he runs about a bit. About all really.
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Post by march4 on May 18, 2010 19:20:51 GMT
How can anyone doubt the big man.
Results speak for themselves, including our best run since 1975 when he returned from injury at the turn of the year.
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Post by Pugsley on May 18, 2010 19:24:43 GMT
Joking apart pugsley, I don't think you are one of the worst posters by the way. I haven't got a problem with you - you might be a decent bloke. The "problem" is your ridiculous comment. Until you have the bottle to explain why you made it, I'll keep on reminding you about it. To be honest, your consistent defending of posters such as fromafar, who is considered a joke by 99% of posters is far more worrying. You and the ever decreasing minority of TP's critics have every right to say what you think just as I have. Last piece of advice, your attempts at abusing me say far more about you than they do about me. Abusing you? Come on mate. I class you as a happy clapper - someone who will take anything and everything SCFC throws at him no matter how bad. That is how you come across to me. If you are not then fine - no problem. As an extreme I suggested you happy clapped through a 7-0 defeat. It comes to light you had a nasty experience after that game with your daughter, please explain how would I have known that? It's unfortunate you had to go through that and as a Father of 2 I can sympathise. As for a Pulis critic - I am. His football philosophies lie in the dark ages. I also have praised him on the fantastic results he as achieved with his brand of hoofball. By the way I only defend the right to post, something that you and others don't unless it fits your rimming tendancies. I certainly don't defend the likes of fromafar who is extreme to say the least but like everyone now and again, somethings ring true. To say I consistently defend them is crackers. To be honest ant, I can't see what your fuss is all about.
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Post by MrMagic on May 18, 2010 19:25:27 GMT
Ahhhh the stats of convenience again March4 Mama is a poor poor footballer. His continued presence in our side is a sign of our tactical limitation as a side. If he is a starting choice next season I will be very disappointed and I wont be on my own. We need 11 players on the pitch who can play. Relying on a player who was below standard when we were in the CCC is not good enough anymore.
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Post by Pugsley on May 18, 2010 19:26:26 GMT
How can anyone doubt the big man. Results speak for themselves, including our best run since 1975 when he returned from injury at the turn of the year. You can set your watch by march4 ;D
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Post by march4 on May 18, 2010 19:27:07 GMT
How can anyone doubt the big man. Results speak for themselves, including our best run since 1975 when he returned from injury at the turn of the year. You can set your watch by march4 ;D Good evening ;D ;D
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Post by ParaPsych on May 18, 2010 19:27:48 GMT
it was me who said Pugsley was the worst poster, but i was wrong. some good posts from him recently.
i was just getting fed up of his idea that there was a thought police in control of the board who jump on every anti-pulis post. much like the Bollocks from mrmagic above.that's a load of shit, there are just some nutters who are pro everything. it's a really fucking weak and terribly dull argument.
the people in control of opinion on here are the moderates who post way too much. see the top 10 or 20 posters. md being one of them.
basically, if you can post more than someone you disagree with, you win
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Post by march4 on May 18, 2010 19:29:33 GMT
it was me who said Pugsley was the worst poster, but i was wrong. some good posts from him recently. i was just getting fed up of his idea that there was a thought police in control of the board who jump on every anti-pulis post. much like the Bollocks from mrmagic above.that's a load of shit, there are just some nutters who are pro everything. it's a really fucking weak and terribly dull argument. the people in control of opinion on here are the moderates who post way too much. see the top 10 or 20 posters. md being one of them. basically, if you can post more than someone you disagree with, you win You haven't even made it to 1000 posts yet ;D
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Post by MrMagic on May 18, 2010 19:31:15 GMT
it was me who said Pugsley was the worst poster, but i was wrong. some good posts from him recently. i was just getting fed up of his idea that there was a thought police in control of the board who jump on every anti-pulis post. much like the Bollocks from mrmagic above.that's a load of shit, there are just some nutters who are pro everything. it's a really fucking weak and terribly dull argument. the people in control of opinion on here are the moderates who post way too much. see the top 10 or 20 posters. md being one of them. basically, if you can post more than someone you disagree with, you win It's not bollocks and fine well you know it.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 18, 2010 19:35:08 GMT
Can't argue with any of that. When he's fully fit, Sidibe plays effectively in our system and our system is effective. If he's a poor footballer, then he is at least an effective footballer for us. There probably wouldn't be much a place for him in other systems, but then Tuncay isn't made into a rubbish footballer by not being able to fit into our system. Never mentioned Tuncay. In fact I was one of the first ones who questioned his signing - where was he going to play and questioned his ability despite the masses on here jizzing themselves. Tuncay has ability but he is/was never going to fit into a Pulis side. Sidibe is a poor footballer IMHO. Technically he is weak, doesn't win that much in the air for his size, a shocking goalscoring record WHATEVER division he is in and he has no awareness on the pitch. He's awkward for the opposition and he runs about a bit. About all really. Apologies, I know you didn't mention Tuncay. I didn't mean any of that as a slight against Tuncay of anything or the sort,I was just after another example and it was the first I thought of. I suppose Robbie Keane at Liverpool is another, come to think of it. I'm not going to deny that Sidibe is technically weak and there can be absolutely no denying that his goalscoring record has never, ever been any good. He hasn't won as much in the air as he usually does this year, but when he is fit and on form I don't think he does too badly at all. Like I mentioned in another post, he beat John Terry in the air every single time at our place last season. He works well in our system and he's worth keeping hold of for that reason alone. We started the season with three players capable of playing in the target man position and we finished it with just one. At the very most we're going to bring in two players who can play there, so it would be foolish to lose him as a squad member.
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Post by ParaPsych on May 18, 2010 19:35:41 GMT
it is. there is only one poster who consistently and regularly defends mama no matter what for example. march hardly constitutes a thought police, as much as he'd like to think he does. he just posts a fuck load.
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Post by antwilkes123 on May 18, 2010 19:47:04 GMT
Ok pugsley, thanks for trying to explain. If I over-reacted to your comment, perhaps it was to do with my daughters experience during the game (the fact it was Birmingham, at home and a thrashing also had something to do with it!) Like you I've experienced many ups and downs as a Stoke fan over the years and have been at my wits-end (apart from the Waddington, Macari, TP and sometimes Thordasson and Durban eras) for much of the time. I guess we won't agree on TP or Sidibe, but thats ok, its part of the fun. It's time to draw a line as far as I'm concerned. We'll no doubt agree to differ in the future, but I hope we both accept this and don't see it as a problem. Ant
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Post by march4 on May 18, 2010 19:54:05 GMT
it is. there is only one poster who consistently and regularly defends mama no matter what for example. march hardly constitutes a thought police, as much as he'd like to think he does. he just posts a fuck load. Thanks, but as you yourself admitted, it is us frequent posters who always win the arguements. In the recent poll to find best poster, MD was rightly top by a long way, however I was one of the mottley crew fighting it out for second spot. Many posters agree with me but daren't say so because of the cyber bullies who think Mama is no good. I've spent my life standing up to bullies.
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Post by stokiekarl619 on May 18, 2010 19:57:37 GMT
Did you know Sidibe gets a overall score of 70 on the new Fifa World Cup game? So Fifa reckon he's a decent striker LOL I was surprised to see Sidibe to be in goal for Mali too, then I realised there were about 3 or 4 "Sidibie's" in the Mali squad. For a moment I thought Mali thought mama was so shit that they stuck him in goal
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Post by ParaPsych on May 18, 2010 19:58:15 GMT
i think the positive vote was because you're comedy gold i'd have beaten you 8 years ago when i was a jobless layabout
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Post by march4 on May 18, 2010 20:00:02 GMT
i think the positive vote was because you're comedy gold i'd have beaten you 8 years ago when i was a jobless layabout Only teasing ;D ;D You want to run your own business, some days you have loads of time, but then there are those lonnnggggggg days ;D
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Post by Pugsley on May 18, 2010 20:26:26 GMT
Ok pugsley, thanks for trying to explain. If I over-reacted to your comment, perhaps it was to do with my daughters experience during the game (the fact it was Birmingham, at home and a thrashing also had something to do with it!) Like you I've experienced many ups and downs as a Stoke fan over the years and have been at my wits-end (apart from the Waddington, Macari, TP and sometimes Thordasson and Durban eras) for much of the time. I guess we won't agree on TP or Sidibe, but thats ok, its part of the fun. It's time to draw a line as far as I'm concerned. We'll no doubt agree to differ in the future, but I hope we both accept this and don't see it as a problem. Ant No worries bud. Is this a pass the bucket moment? ;D
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Post by antwilkes123 on May 18, 2010 20:29:15 GMT
Good response!
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Post by fromafar07 on May 18, 2010 21:11:58 GMT
I'm going to put this very briefly, because honestly repeating the same thing on yet another Sidibe thread gets rather tiring (no offence to anyone there). Sidibe is in the team because he is our best option in the target man role that we play with. He was one of the four key components of the promotion team and last season he proved that he can just about cut it at Premier League level, or at least in the lower parts of the Premier League table. Sidibe mauled John Terry around (something that was actually quite worrying considering Terry was England captain at the time) and scored vital goals against Brazil and Newcastle. We were a much better team when Mama played than we were when Kitson played in that season, there can be absolutely no doubt about that. This season, he was rushed back into the team because of a dearth of options in the target man role and he's been running on empty. With a full pre-season behind him we'd have seen more performances like in the home game against Everton and fewer like the home game against Villa. Nobody is denying that we need better than Mama, somebody like Jones or Cole. He's nowhere near as bad as some make out, however, and he fits our system like a glove. He's hardly the long ball anti-Christ either. We hoof it to him when he's on the pitch and if he's fit, he'll win it and the ball will stick up there. If he's not on the pitch, we hoof it anyway because we've got nothing else to do with it. The difference is that the ball comes straight back to us. The point is this: Mama proved last season that he can cut it in the Premier League as a squad member and back up to the first team. This season Mama has been half fit and has been absolutely crucified for it. What really pisses me off is that certain posters like that Keithy George bloke cannot make a single post without coming up with some horseshit 'Sidibe is wank lololololsmileyfacewinkloloolol' comment. that was "very briefly" ?? ;D he has barely won a ball kicked to him by either our goalie or a center back all season. he either jumps too soon and totally misses it or is out jumped due to his 1 inch vertical jump. you can argue with silly stats all day long, but the pure proof of it all is our abysmal goal scoring record! just how does Sidibe "work" when we score so few goals. what exactly is working ??
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Post by march4 on May 18, 2010 21:24:22 GMT
I'm going to put this very briefly, because honestly repeating the same thing on yet another Sidibe thread gets rather tiring (no offence to anyone there). Sidibe is in the team because he is our best option in the target man role that we play with. He was one of the four key components of the promotion team and last season he proved that he can just about cut it at Premier League level, or at least in the lower parts of the Premier League table. Sidibe mauled John Terry around (something that was actually quite worrying considering Terry was England captain at the time) and scored vital goals against Brazil and Newcastle. We were a much better team when Mama played than we were when Kitson played in that season, there can be absolutely no doubt about that. This season, he was rushed back into the team because of a dearth of options in the target man role and he's been running on empty. With a full pre-season behind him we'd have seen more performances like in the home game against Everton and fewer like the home game against Villa. Nobody is denying that we need better than Mama, somebody like Jones or Cole. He's nowhere near as bad as some make out, however, and he fits our system like a glove. He's hardly the long ball anti-Christ either. We hoof it to him when he's on the pitch and if he's fit, he'll win it and the ball will stick up there. If he's not on the pitch, we hoof it anyway because we've got nothing else to do with it. The difference is that the ball comes straight back to us. The point is this: Mama proved last season that he can cut it in the Premier League as a squad member and back up to the first team. This season Mama has been half fit and has been absolutely crucified for it. What really pisses me off is that certain posters like that Keithy George bloke cannot make a single post without coming up with some horseshit 'Sidibe is wank lololololsmileyfacewinkloloolol' comment. that was "very briefly" ?? ;D he has barely won a ball kicked to him by either our goalie or a center back all season. he either jumps too soon and totally misses it or is out jumped due to his 1 inch vertical jump. you can argue with silly stats all day long, but the pure proof of it all is our abysmal goal scoring record! just how does Sidibe "work" when we score so few goals. what exactly is working ?? Results.
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Post by fromafar07 on May 18, 2010 21:33:31 GMT
that was "very briefly" ?? ;D he has barely won a ball kicked to him by either our goalie or a center back all season. he either jumps too soon and totally misses it or is out jumped due to his 1 inch vertical jump. you can argue with silly stats all day long, but the pure proof of it all is our abysmal goal scoring record! just how does Sidibe "work" when we score so few goals. what exactly is working ?? Results. results ??? in a poor year all around for the Premier League we scored 34 goals in 38 games winning just 11 times and collecting 47 points! Now while that is a good finish for our team, (based on what the other teams did) the pure facts alone show that he doesnt work and the system he is supposed to anchor DOES NOT WORK ! less than a goal a game !! god forbid our system works that well when the premier league gets tough again !
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Post by Cyprusdelilah on May 18, 2010 21:33:55 GMT
How can anyone doubt the big man. Results speak for themselves, including our best run since 1975 when he returned from injury at the turn of the year. What will you do if for next season we have bought a new target man in and we've spent 8-10mil on him, but he's finding it very difficult to score. Will it be a case of bring back Sidibe. We have got to bring in quality especially in midfield and Pulis as got to let them have more freedom in his tatics. To help out our forward's.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 18, 2010 21:47:25 GMT
We have got to bring in quality especially in midfield and Pulis as got to let them have more freedom in his tatics. To help out our forward's. It's fair to say that regardless of who plays as the target man, our chance creation is minimal. That's why having Beattie on the pitch was a bonus, you always felt that when he was with Fuller, he'd find himself in a position to score. He just had that goalscoring instinct that's the difference in so many games. Why is it that whenever we do well, it has to be a poor league? When we got promoted it was apparently the poorest Championship for years (as it was in all the years preceding it), it was a poor Premier League last year and now apparently this year it's rubbish from top to bottom.
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Post by french toast on May 19, 2010 7:35:35 GMT
results ??? in a poor year all around for the Premier League we scored 34 goals in 38 games winning just 11 times and collecting 47 points! Now while that is a good finish for our team, (based on what the other teams did) the pure facts alone show that he doesnt work and the system he is supposed to anchor DOES NOT WORK ! less than a goal a game !! god forbid our system works that well when the premier league gets tough again ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D yeah when we come up the prem is shite, when we stay up the prem is shite. poor season all round?? its been a great season for us, another improved finish football isnt just about goals scored its about keeping clean sheets, but up in the good old U, S OF A they love their 66-5 with 7 touch downs dont they so i wouldnt expect you to understand
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