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Post by danceswithclams on Apr 8, 2019 10:54:30 GMT
Was this a shady Russian bloke who tried to get you to try some aftershave?
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Post by werrington on Apr 8, 2019 12:44:28 GMT
Went Berry Hill high school late 70's early 80's so knew a fair few from Bentilee. Great days. Cloweses disco on a Friday night was our first foray into trying to pull girls! Christmas Cloweses was a snog fest!π Clowes was always a pitched battle Berryhill used to batter Wilfield all down ubberley rd after π
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Post by werrington on Apr 8, 2019 12:46:04 GMT
The sterilised milk man - (I mean the milk was sterilised not the man) the insurance man, the telly man, the bread man, the sweet van. Seems like everything used to come to the door. That insurance man had some serious cash on him as he walked the streets Scary when you think back
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Post by riverman on Apr 8, 2019 12:53:51 GMT
Went Berry Hill high school late 70's early 80's so knew a fair few from Bentilee. Great days. Cloweses disco on a Friday night was our first foray into trying to pull girls! Christmas Cloweses was a snog fest!π Clowes was always a pitched battle Berryhill used to batter Wilfield all down ubberley rd after π Aye, it could certainly get a bit tasty. Seem to remember there was usually a copper in attendance and this at a youth disco!
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 8, 2019 13:14:38 GMT
Both sets of my grandparents were from the area - my mums side were top of Dawlish Drive, and my dads (native from Durham and came for the pits) were over the other side of Dividy Road on Berry Hill (Yateley Close)
Grandad Ray (Flowers) worked on the tile place (Richardsons? Where Lidl is now), before eventually running the Auto Club on the estate before it closed and became a shop, was a regular in the Winchester, and the reason I support Stoke over my dads beloved Sunderland. Used to get dropped off (from age 5!) on a Saturday morning, went home Sunday night!
Nan and Grandad moved to be closer to us in Biddulph in the early 80s running the Golden Lion in town, before my grandad sadly passed away in 1984 - Nan Marg is still with my mum (Wendy) round the corner from me in Biddulph!
Grandad George (Robinson) was a hard working Geordie miner who bought the whole family down from Stanley for work, smoked Woodbines, and my dad (Trevor) and uncle (Peter) both followed him down the pits - memories as a kid of visiting every Sunday for dinner, and as I got older going to the pub with them (Hillberry and Berry Hill WMC for bingo!) - same routine every week, dropped off to Nan (Belle), they would go for a few pints, have dinner, then go to bed for a few hours before we went home! Grandad George passed in about 1994, my dad in 2003, Nan Belle in 2010 (on her 90th birthday), and uncle Pete sadly 2 years ago
I took my son to football a few weeks back where they had to play away at what was Wilfield School - its now a posh Discovery Academy, all new and modern - there are new shops and a precinct where the library used to be/still is, Berry Hill Club is gone, as is the Winchester (closed then burned down), fairly sure Ubberley Club is closed too
Houses havent changed much! It is what it is, and similar to many other old mining/council estates - older folk who like where they live, and a mix of genuinely nice decent people and the odd scrotes who belong on Shameless! Guessing many of the houses are now privately owned - you can usually tell by the doors and nice gardens!
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Post by elystokie on Apr 8, 2019 13:24:09 GMT
Both sets of my grandparents were from the area - my mums side were top of Dawlish Drive, and my dads (native from Durham and came for the pits) were over the other side of Dividy Road on Berry Hill (Yateley Close) Grandad Ray (Flowers) worked on the tile place (Richardsons? Where Lidl is now), before eventually running the Auto Club on the estate before it closed and became a shop, was a regular in the Winchester, and the reason I support Stoke over my dads beloved Sunderland. Used to get dropped off (from age 5!) on a Saturday morning, went home Sunday night! U Nan and Grandad moved to be closer to us in Biddulph in the early 80s running the Golden Lion in town, before my grandad sadly passed away in 1984 - Nan Marg is still with my mum (Wendy) round the corner from me in Biddulph! Grandad George (Robinson) was a hard working Geordie miner who bought the whole family down from Stanley for work, smoked Woodbines, and my dad (Trevor) and uncle (Peter) both followed him down the pits - memories as a kid of visiting every Sunday for dinner, and as I got older going to the pub with them (Hillberry and Berry Hill WMC for bingo!) - same routine every week, dropped off to Nan (Belle), they would go for a few pints, have dinner, then go to bed for a few hours before we went home! Grandad George passed in about 1994, my dad in 2003, Nan Belle in 2010 (on her 90th birthday), and uncle Pete sadly 2 years ago I took my son to football a few weeks back where they had to play away at what was Wilfield School - its now a posh Discovery Academy, all new and modern - there are new shops and a precinct where the library used to be/still is, Berry Hill Club is gone, as is the Winchester (closed then burned down), fairly sure Ubberley Club is closed too Houses havent changed much! It is what it is, and similar to many other old mining/council estates - older folk who like where they live, and a mix of genuinely nice decent people and the odd scrotes who belong on Shameless! Guessing many of the houses are now privately owned - you can usually tell by the doors and nice gardens! I think I've already told I worked with your Dad briefly at Trentham Area Workshops as a lad, brilliant bloke, was a good friend of my parents too as was your mum and her parents, I can remember them at parties around ours. Berryhill club is still going mate, only one left of the club's, hard to believe there was 4 clubs on the estate at one point, all with acts and bingo on at weekends, that was aside from 7 or 8 pubs sometimes with acts on as well.
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 8, 2019 13:28:28 GMT
Yes we have buddy
Which one was the club you can see on the hill from Dividy Road? Used to be a youth centre a bit further across from it too (I won u14s darts competition there once and qualified for finals day at the Crafty Cockney!)
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Post by werrington on Apr 8, 2019 13:47:34 GMT
Yes we have buddy Which one was the club you can see on the hill from Dividy Road? Used to be a youth centre a bit further across from it too (I won u14s darts competition there once and qualified for finals day at the Crafty Cockney!) Thatβs Berryhill wmc mate My parents are geordies and mum from Consett and dad (rip ) was from Stanley and we too are Berryhill Small world
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 8, 2019 13:53:25 GMT
Imagine they all knew each other then! Tight knit group the Judders :-)
My owd man was gutted I became a Stokie!
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Post by werrington on Apr 8, 2019 13:56:32 GMT
Imagine they all knew each other then! Tight knit group the Judders :-) My owd man was gutted I became a Stokie! Yep My brother is a Newcastle ST holder ...I saw the light, or did I π€·ββοΈπ
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 8, 2019 14:35:42 GMT
Yes we have buddy Which one was the club you can see on the hill from Dividy Road? Used to be a youth centre a bit further across from it too (I won u14s darts competition there once and qualified for finals day at the Crafty Cockney!) Thatβs Berryhill wmc mate My parents are geordies and mum from Consett and dad (rip ) was from Stanley and we too are Berryhill Small world Ubberley wmc Berryhill was other side of Dividy rd near to the garage think it was Hall Hill Drive. I stand corrected it was Berryhill on Calvary π, which club was off Hallhill Drive then?
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Post by chad on Apr 8, 2019 14:59:13 GMT
Went Berry Hill high school late 70's early 80's so knew a fair few from Bentilee. Great days. Cloweses disco on a Friday night was our first foray into trying to pull girls! Christmas Cloweses was a snog fest!π Was in the very first intake at Berry Hill in 1964. Powell was the head teacher. Bradbury for PE canβt believe itβs been knocked down
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Post by werrington on Apr 8, 2019 15:17:57 GMT
Thatβs Berryhill wmc mate My parents are geordies and mum from Consett and dad (rip ) was from Stanley and we too are Berryhill Small world Ubberley wmc Berryhill was other side of Dividy rd near to the garage think it was Hall Hill Drive. I stand corrected it was Berryhill on Calvary π, which club was off Hallhill Drive then? That was the legion mate Ubberley club was on ubberley road down by the then spring cottage
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Post by danceswithclams on Apr 8, 2019 16:03:02 GMT
Yes we have buddy Which one was the club you can see on the hill from Dividy Road? Used to be a youth centre a bit further across from it too (I won u14s darts competition there once and qualified for finals day at the Crafty Cockney!) Thatβs Berryhill wmc mate My parents are geordies and mum from Consett and dad (rip ) was from Stanley and we too are Berryhill Small world My mum is from Durham (as are her parents and siblings, funnily enough) and they're also former residents of Berryhill. Sunderland fans the lot of 'em. Luckily, my old man is from Longton so I grew up following the right denomination of red and white.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 8, 2019 16:04:45 GMT
Ubberley wmc Berryhill was other side of Dividy rd near to the garage think it was Hall Hill Drive. I stand corrected it was Berryhill on Calvary π, which club was off Hallhill Drive then? That was the legion mate Ubberley club was on ubberley road down by the then spring cottage Don't remember going in the Legion much as an adult, used to have our Ladsandads prize giving there when I was a kid, I can vividly remember wearing one of those 'budgie' shirts in there The sign from when it was a country and western club is still on Dividy by the garage
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Post by werrington on Apr 8, 2019 16:15:06 GMT
That was the legion mate Ubberley club was on ubberley road down by the then spring cottage Don't remember going in the Legion much as an adult, used to have our Ladsandads prize giving there when I was a kid, I can vividly remember wearing one of those 'budgie' shirts in there The sign from when it was a country and western club is still on Dividy by the garage Leak show was a great night π
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Post by hoffgreen on Apr 8, 2019 17:11:32 GMT
The sterilised milk man - (I mean the milk was sterilised not the man) the insurance man, the telly man, the bread man, the sweet van. Seems like everything used to come to the door. That insurance man had some serious cash on him as he walked the streets Scary when you think back I was a council house 70s kid and remember the rent woman calling think it was every Thursday. Brown leather satchel over her shoulder house to house. Probably car parked at one end of the street and worked her way from one end to the other. Wonder if she felt vulnerable at the time I've always thought that.... she was definitely on her own.... or was it that it wasn't the done thing to rob the rent woman!? Weird when you look back how society has changed... At that time though I distinctly remember.... our back door key was under the mat or just left unlocked as we were out playing and mum and dad were out..... never ever was the word burglary mentioned, I mean what were they going to nick we didn't have anything to nick so I guess that's why it was a great place to grow up!
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Post by elystokie on Apr 8, 2019 18:17:31 GMT
Imagine they all knew each other then! Tight knit group the Judders :-) My owd man was gutted I became a Stokie! As far as I know it was the miners in the 60s who raised the funds to build the Berryhill WMC, when we moved into one of the flats next to where it is now it was another green, wasn't long before they had it built tho.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Apr 8, 2019 19:10:49 GMT
Big question is.................when does Bentilee become Bucknall and Bucknall become the Abbey? My dad's family were spread across all three.
Spent many a Saturday night when i was a kid walking up and down Theodore Road having picked up my granddad's smokes and a couple of litres of ale from the Queens back door.
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Post by werrington on Apr 8, 2019 19:48:59 GMT
Big question is.................when does Bentilee become Bucknall and Bucknall become the Abbey? My dad's family were spread across all three. Spent many a Saturday night when i was a kid walking up and down Theodore Road having picked up my granddad's smokes and a couple of litres of ale from the Queens back door. Queens is flattened now Twigg St is the boundary but Berryhill is classed as Bucknall also ....Anything 300 yards passed the old Bucknall hospital becomes Abbey Well it does to me anyway π
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Post by richie22 on Apr 8, 2019 20:11:38 GMT
Big question is.................when does Bentilee become Bucknall and Bucknall become the Abbey? My dad's family were spread across all three. Spent many a Saturday night when i was a kid walking up and down Theodore Road having picked up my granddad's smokes and a couple of litres of ale from the Queens back door. Queens is flattened now Twigg St is the boundary but Berryhill is classed as Bucknall also ....Anything 300 yards passed the old Bucknall hospital becomes Abbey Well it does to me anyway π I went to Maria gorreti on Aylesbury, there letters always said bucknall on. Guess they were in denial! Berryhill was anything other side of dividy slip. Bucknall started as you went downhill from twiggy
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Post by richie22 on Apr 8, 2019 20:15:37 GMT
That insurance man had some serious cash on him as he walked the streets Scary when you think back I was a council house 70s kid and remember the rent woman calling think it was every Thursday. Brown leather satchel over her shoulder house to house. Probably car parked at one end of the street and worked her way from one end to the other. Wonder if she felt vulnerable at the time I've always thought that.... she was definitely on her own.... or was it that it wasn't the done thing to rob the rent woman!? Weird when you look back how society has changed... At that time though I distinctly remember.... our back door key was under the mat or just left unlocked as we were out playing and mum and dad were out..... never ever was the word burglary mentioned, I mean what were they going to nick we didn't have anything to nick so I guess that's why it was a great place to grow up! Was a Thursday for us up at thornhill, mum worked at the post office at big shops and we would catch the school bus on the corner of washer wall outside βmad stansβ Flats. We would aim to catch the rent man walking down onto Galloway. Complete with his leather satchel that was as old as time, he possibly carried plenty of cash with him for best part of the day. Thereβs no way he could do that now
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Post by elystokie on Apr 8, 2019 22:46:37 GMT
Queens is flattened now Twigg St is the boundary but Berryhill is classed as Bucknall also ....Anything 300 yards passed the old Bucknall hospital becomes Abbey Well it does to me anyway π I went to Maria gorreti on Aylesbury, there letters always said bucknall on. Guess they were in denial! Berryhill was anything other side of dividy slip. Bucknall started as you went downhill from twiggy I knew a couple of folk who'd put 'Ubberley' as their address instead of Bentilee
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 9, 2019 9:40:35 GMT
I've always thought the boundaries followed the main roads - the split of Bentilee and Bucknall is the road going up from the roundabout by the Hillberry? Attachment Deleted
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Post by elystokie on Apr 9, 2019 9:48:03 GMT
I've always thought the boundaries followed the main roads - the split of Bentilee and Bucknall is the road going up from the roundabout by the Hillberry? View AttachmentYes, near Twigg Street, main road there is Beverley Drive, always how I've read it anyway.
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Post by santy on Apr 10, 2019 8:20:47 GMT
I've always seen the dividing line between Bentilee and Bucknall to be the brook since Mitchell/Hanley High was always considered to be in Bucknall so that seemed like the natural point to distinguish between the two.
Bentilee is pretty much everything that just comes off from Beverley drive looping onto Dividy in the sort of D shape though isn't it.
One thing I have always found really bizarre is that despite how close Berryhill is to one of the industrial estates on Fenton, there's no direct road through. Seems silly when you consider how much traffic that could alleviate at Limekiln and Anchor Road. Although to be honest its completely the same the other side where part of Bentilee comes pretty close to Werrington Road, a road there would also really alleviate traffic down by Limekiln.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 10, 2019 11:12:00 GMT
I've always seen the dividing line between Bentilee and Bucknall to be the brook since Mitchell/Hanley High was always considered to be in Bucknall so that seemed like the natural point to distinguish between the two. Bentilee is pretty much everything that just comes off from Beverley drive looping onto Dividy in the sort of D shape though isn't it. One thing I have always found really bizarre is that despite how close Berryhill is to one of the industrial estates on Fenton, there's no direct road through. Seems silly when you consider how much traffic that could alleviate at Limekiln and Anchor Road. Although to be honest its completely the same the other side where part of Bentilee comes pretty close to Werrington Road, a road there would also really alleviate traffic down by Limekiln. I think there was a plan to build a road across the Berryhill Fields to Fenton when the estate was built, there's actually a road (we call it the road to nowhere) with a bridge over the old railway line but it stops before it impinges on the actual fields, Wadebridge Road I think it is. Don't know if they ran out of money, interest or both but I'm quite glad as it would've spoiled a really nice wildlife spot. There's a plan to build some housing on a part of it, the 'Friends of Berryhill Fields' are fighting the proposal currently.
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Post by santy on Apr 10, 2019 11:42:55 GMT
I think there was a plan to build a road across the Berryhill Fields to Fenton when the estate was built, there's actually a road (we call it the road to nowhere) with a bridge over the old railway line but it stops before it impinges on the actual fields, Wadebridge Road I think it is. Don't know if they ran out of money, interest or both but I'm quite glad as it would've spoiled a really nice wildlife spot. There's a plan to build some housing on a part of it, the 'Friends of Berryhill Fields' are fighting the proposal currently. Housing is a different matter entirely to a road of course, but could there really be something so special in that general area of where the red line is that couldn't be, or isn't already, replicated elsewhere in the vast swathes of greenery. If there is, well there's plenty of spots just along. I mean the road that goes through Park Hall doesn't really have a huge impact on the general enjoyment of the area. What's also irritating is that the road from Berryhill that goes down onto Leek Road (unless something has changed in the last few years since I wandered down it) they gated it off which again cuts off a good diversion for traffic away from
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Post by elystokie on Apr 10, 2019 11:55:49 GMT
I think there was a plan to build a road across the Berryhill Fields to Fenton when the estate was built, there's actually a road (we call it the road to nowhere) with a bridge over the old railway line but it stops before it impinges on the actual fields, Wadebridge Road I think it is. Don't know if they ran out of money, interest or both but I'm quite glad as it would've spoiled a really nice wildlife spot. There's a plan to build some housing on a part of it, the 'Friends of Berryhill Fields' are fighting the proposal currently. Housing is a different matter entirely to a road of course, but could there really be something so special in that general area of where the red line is that couldn't be, or isn't already, replicated elsewhere in the vast swathes of greenery. If there is, well there's plenty of spots just along. I mean the road that goes through Park Hall doesn't really have a huge impact on the general enjoyment of the area. What's also irritating is that the road from Berryhill that goes down onto Leek Road (unless something has changed in the last few years since I wandered down it) they gated it off which again cuts off a good diversion for traffic away from There are plans to open up the road that goes down by the side of the Trent Tavern to traffic. The red line goes from Eaton Park, I'd guess the residents there would be a bit miffed if a shit load of traffic made its way through their estate, wouldn't bother me
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 10, 2019 17:57:18 GMT
Housing is a different matter entirely to a road of course, but could there really be something so special in that general area of where the red line is that couldn't be, or isn't already, replicated elsewhere in the vast swathes of greenery. If there is, well there's plenty of spots just along. I mean the road that goes through Park Hall doesn't really have a huge impact on the general enjoyment of the area. What's also irritating is that the road from Berryhill that goes down onto Leek Road (unless something has changed in the last few years since I wandered down it) they gated it off which again cuts off a good diversion for traffic away from There are plans to open up the road that goes down by the side of the Trent Tavern to traffic. The red line goes from Eaton Park, I'd guess the residents there would be a bit miffed if a shit load of traffic made its way through their estate, wouldn't bother me That's my route to the Vic, through the old NCB over Viccy road past Fenton baths there in no time.
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