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Post by henry on Jan 30, 2010 11:54:00 GMT
MD, he never mentioned tuncay before sky sports broke the news. fact.
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 30, 2010 11:55:52 GMT
I think a bit more clarity on some of Dave's points would have helped. He tends to give one line answers, "terms are agreed" etc. - making us think it's virtually in the bag (i.e. James was 100%).
I think a bit more of a sensible post, along the lines of "James is virtually done but he can't be confirmed until the deal is signed and sealed" would be better and a lot more respected.
So in summary he either doesn't know as much as he lets on (he obviously knows something) or else he doesn't give enough clarity leading to us assuming stuff is 'nailed on' when it isn't.
I also think the Q&A sessions became farcical at times, he should do the stealth approach like he did last week - come on, post bullet points, give us the facts, state clearly what hurdles need to be overcome to make the signings, and disappear. We can then fight over the bones between ourselves without Dave needing to justify every point and get swamped in questions.
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Post by fortressbrit on Jan 30, 2010 11:56:36 GMT
he should be banned for taking the piss out of the vulnerable on ere.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 30, 2010 11:58:07 GMT
MD, he never mentioned tuncay before sky sports broke the news. fact. I'm sure he did, it's one that people keep mentioning. He definitely said Collins a few days before he signed, though, so replace Tuncay with Collins.
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Post by entropy92 on Jan 30, 2010 11:58:34 GMT
If you assume everything that dave says will 100% happen then you're a complete fucking cock, and deserve to feel disappointed when it doesn't. He can only tell you what the club are trying to do. He can't control what happens around the negotiating table can he? what he said
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Post by ruts66 on Jan 30, 2010 11:59:18 GMT
As much as I enjoy the ridiculous entertainment value of the New Signings thread, I can't help thinking how completely unprofessional this makes us look to the outside world. Dave professes to be posting with the club's blessing and is often 'unable to comment' when we get a little too close to the truth on certain player interest.
One can only assume therefore that his posts are carefully designed to move attention away from the real targets, ie., a smokescreen to avoid TP's wrath.
Personally, I'd prefer it to continue no matter how ludicrous things get. It's great pantomime...
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 30, 2010 12:00:42 GMT
There really are some hysterical people on here who need to get a grip.
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Post by offthewall on Jan 30, 2010 12:03:02 GMT
If posting complete bollox is not allowed, this site is going to be very quiet.
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Post by henry on Jan 30, 2010 12:07:54 GMT
MD, he never mentioned tuncay before sky sports broke the news. fact. I'm sure he did, it's one that people keep mentioning. He definitely said Collins a few days before he signed, though, so replace Tuncay with Collins. also, the first we knew about whitehead was when cushion face gave a press conference saying stoke were after him. did'nt mention arismendi either, pretty sure mark71/72 broke the news on here about beattie. martin spinks and sky sports broke the news about kelly. don't recall him telling us we were signing matty either. he did say james was signing, quite clearly he was till something went wrong. he did say we were after huth, but also made out that we were signing collins (the villa one), vaughn from everton and o'niell from boro via his age/dimensions clues i've no doubt that he gets to hear little bits, but on whole his record pretty well sucks imo.
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Post by 58Potter on Jan 30, 2010 12:17:28 GMT
If you assume everything that dave says will 100% happen then you're a complete fucking cock, and deserve to feel disappointed when it doesn't. He can only tell you what the club are trying to do. He can't control what happens around the negotiating table can he? Personally I don't invest much time and energy in the thread like some do, but I'm still interested to hear the kind of players that we're after, so would rather dave posted than didn't. That sums the Dave saga up in a nutshell Trousers absolutely spot on.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Jan 30, 2010 12:20:36 GMT
He's clearly ITK as his post that Wilko was to play at left back in an earlier game shows.
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Post by padders01 on Jan 30, 2010 12:26:36 GMT
He's clearly ITK as his post that Wilko was to play at left back in an earlier game shows. That was on Radio Stoke on the Friday before and if you go down to traning it's pretty obvious to see
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Post by stokerstayinup on Jan 30, 2010 12:38:05 GMT
He's clearly ITK as his post that Wilko was to play at left back in an earlier game shows. That was on Radio Stoke on the Friday before and if you go down to traning it's pretty obvious to see Wasn't on Radio bud.
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Post by padders01 on Jan 30, 2010 12:41:12 GMT
That was on Radio Stoke on the Friday before and if you go down to traning it's pretty obvious to see Wasn't on Radio bud. I'm afraid it was. John Acres had said it on P&G on the Friday evening show
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 30, 2010 12:44:46 GMT
He's clearly ITK as his post that Wilko was to play at left back in an earlier game shows. There have been countless times he's been right about things like this. It is obvious he is well connected at the club. It is also obvious he likes that fact and played his hand strong. It is also obvious that some people on this board are hysterical mardarses.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Jan 30, 2010 12:45:42 GMT
I'm afraid it was. John Acres had said it on P&G on the Friday evening show 100% didn't.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 30, 2010 12:46:02 GMT
I'm sure he did, it's one that people keep mentioning. He definitely said Collins a few days before he signed, though, so replace Tuncay with Collins. also, the first we knew about whitehead was when cushion face gave a press conference saying stoke were after him. did'nt mention arismendi either, pretty sure mark71/72 broke the news on here about beattie. martin spinks and sky sports broke the news about kelly. don't recall him telling us we were signing matty either. he did say james was signing, quite clearly he was till something went wrong. he did say we were after huth, but also made out that we were signing collins (the villa one), vaughn from everton and o'niell from boro via his age/dimensions clues i've no doubt that he gets to hear little bits, but on whole his record pretty well sucks imo. Henry you're wrong on so much of this fella. He absolutely DID say we were in for Tuncay waaaay before Sky broke the story. On Whitehead ... the Sentinel, Radio Stoke as well as the national media were all reporting that he had signed or was about to in the next 24 hrs and whilst all that was going on, Dave put his kneck on the block, went against tide of media stories and said that Dean wouldn't sign untill the following week ... he was proved to be right. On Beattie ... all the ITK's (one said he'd returned from the Brit and spoken to an Excec confirming it), Radio Stoke, Sentinel etc. were suggesting that Beattie would be paraded in front of the fans on Saturday as our new star signing ... Dave went against the tide, said they were ALL wrong and that he would sign the following week ... he was proved to be right AGAIN. Dave absolutely was the first to break the news about Kelly ... the unusual circumstances of it happening have been mentioned on here so many times it's untrue - there are scores of people on here that will confirm this WAS the case. Etherington was signed before Dave started posting info - so no surprises there.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 30, 2010 12:47:31 GMT
He's clearly ITK as his post that Wilko was to play at left back in an earlier game shows. That was on Radio Stoke on the Friday before and if you go down to traning it's pretty obvious to see No it wasn't on Radio Stoke the Friday before and everybody who had been at training that day, had said that Wilko WASN'T playing at left back.
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Post by davesviews on Jan 30, 2010 12:47:40 GMT
I'm afraid it was. John Acres had said it on P&G on the Friday evening show No it as not mentioned on the radio at all thats a fact,after i made the statement about the team that would be playing on Saturday,i have not been allowed to name the team again and thats another fact.
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Post by PickSCFC on Jan 30, 2010 12:48:18 GMT
any news dave
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Post by serpico on Jan 30, 2010 12:50:54 GMT
Anyone who has followed Daves posts closely know he has got many things spot bollock .
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 30, 2010 12:55:05 GMT
Anyone who has followed Daves posts closely know he has got many things spot bollock . Off topic but bloody hell Serps, Howard Zinn's died Top american. RIP
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Post by Stoke_FaN_DaN on Jan 30, 2010 12:59:15 GMT
I agree completely with trouserdog. It's a shame some big drama queens aren't capable of ignoring a thread instead of popping over there to hurl abuse at a guy they know absolutely nothing about. read my second post If you insist. who says im daft enough to think every rumour is going to happen? couse its not! its another matter when someone comes on here to take the piss and blurt shit only to disapoint us all. wouldnt mind if 2-3 he got right.[/quote] 1) Beattie 2) Kelly 3) Tuncay You can even put Collins and Whitehead in, if you want. Now explain to me again why you feel that it's necessary to hurl abuse at a guy you know nothing about simply because you don't believe him? Do you stand outside churches and synagogues launching rocks through the windows because you don't believe in what they say?[/quote] abuse???? when have i ever hurled abuse at anyone? i dont believe in abusing other stokies. i just said he talks out his backend. aint it funny he says somethings going to happen when rumours are already out in the open.
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Post by lew86 on Jan 30, 2010 13:01:22 GMT
I said in the summer and last Jan transfer window, I don't think he should post what may be going on.
We've done without for how many years so why do we ned him now.
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Post by Stoke_FaN_DaN on Jan 30, 2010 13:02:46 GMT
all i can say is i hate it when people twist things, i have never hurled abuse at any stokie on this board and never will.
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Post by neoisd1 on Jan 30, 2010 13:03:36 GMT
its pretty obvious that hes in the know If you throw enough shit against the wall, some of it is going to stick.
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Post by serpico on Jan 30, 2010 13:05:07 GMT
Anyone who has followed Daves posts closely know he has got many things spot bollock . Off topic but bloody hell Serps, Howard Zinn's died Top american. RIP Yeh, died on the 27th Jan, age 87 he was a bit too far left for me, but his work on the American empire was brilliant, and The Peoples History of The US is a must read.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 30, 2010 13:13:33 GMT
Off topic but bloody hell Serps, Howard Zinn's died Top american. RIP Yeh, died on the 27th Jan, age 87 he was a bit too far left for me, but his work on the American empire was brilliant, and The Peoples History of The US is a must read. The fact of him being so far left is what provided a small balance to the consensus though. I moved over there just as Bush got in the first time and through September 11th and searched around for some balance to what was going on at that time. The People's History of the US is the book I read first. Have read other bits and pieces.
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Post by padders01 on Jan 30, 2010 13:15:46 GMT
Ok, apologises for saying I heard it on the Radio but it was on here I had read it and it wasn't from DV, it was from two other posters, i have bumped the thread back to the top, titled "Back Four Tomorrow"
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 30, 2010 13:34:25 GMT
Ok, apologises for saying I heard it on the Radio but it was on here I had read it and it wasn't from DV, it was from two other posters, i have bumped the thread back to the top, titled "Back Four Tomorrow" Jesus wept Padders why are you on such a mission with this? The thread you've bumped was started an hour AFTER Dave posted this when people were asking if it was going to be Huth or Andy at right back: dave will wilkinson start at right back tomorro cheers Could be left back A few minutes before answering this question he'd said that Tuncay would start and that Lenny wouldn't ... he was right on both of those counts as well. Just let it go Padders mate.
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