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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 6, 2018 22:18:06 GMT
I don’t know why I have to qualify because if you have followed our club for 1 year or a 100 matters not a hit For the record 1971 is the first I can recall With age often comes perspective and wisdom. Not always though clearly...... I have no claims to this but If you bother to review the responses to my post you will find yourself in the minority
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 6, 2018 22:14:21 GMT
Coates senior needs to stand aside with ourthanks and the ruthless Bet365 needs to take the bridge
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 6, 2018 21:34:01 GMT
Any keeper no matter what ability needs to trust his back line If you watched today he went mental several times at his defender He is a good keeper who deserves better
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 6, 2018 21:25:43 GMT
It`s certainly not too late by any stretch of the imagination! We are in a mess but a new manager appointed quickly and given funds for Jan will reinvigorate the squad which in my view isn`t a bad squad compared to a lot of teams in the bottom half! So no way is it too late. Agree that the sentiment from Coates that 'don`t know what the fuss is about' was very ill conceived and timed very badly. I`m quite sure he regrets saying this now. I hope I am wrong but this self sufficiency stance, which he is entitled to is heading us one way If he came out and said that’s it It would be much more acceptable However the nonesense spouted lately is beyond absurd
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 6, 2018 21:12:25 GMT
Hughes is/was the manager but you allowed this to happen. Even 3 weeks ago you publicly stated you did not know what the fuss was about Hughes was is own downfall but boy your board has a hell of a lot to answer for to allow our fall from such a strength which you created and now seem to be killing Not sure how old you are mate. Presumably not very judging by your comments. Peter Coates was hounded out in 1998 (the whys and wherefores are not relevant). His family were therefore understandably a little apprehensive about his return. Fortunately for us he did return and restored the pride back in the Potters (not to mention the wider benefits for the City). Hearing comments such as yours just might just stir some bad memories for him.....and you know what......who can blame if he said “fuck these ungrateful bastards” and sell out to the highest bidder (who will almost certainly be no fan of Stoke). Be a good chap and piss off eh before you and your ilk destroy this club. We have enough problems as it is. I would also add that I do not boo the team or join in with the Hughes Out chants and I never stormed the directors box, although I witnessed it. This is a mesageboard you total moron where people vent their frustrations
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 6, 2018 21:07:02 GMT
Hughes is/was the manager but you allowed this to happen. Even 3 weeks ago you publicly stated you did not know what the fuss was about Hughes was is own downfall but boy your board has a hell of a lot to answer for to allow our fall from such a strength which you created and now seem to be killing Not sure how old you are mate. Presumably not very judging by your comments. Peter Coates was hounded out in 1998 (the whys and wherefores are not relevant). His family were therefore understandably a little apprehensive about his return. Fortunately for us he did return and restored the pride back in the Potters (not to mention the wider benefits for the City). Hearing comments such as yours just might just stir some bad memories for him.....and you know what......who can blame if he said “fuck these ungrateful bastards” and sell out to the highest bidder (who will almost certainly be no fan of Stoke). Be a good chap and piss off eh before you and your ilk destroy this club. We have enough problems as it is. I don’t know why I have to qualify because if you have followed our club for 1 year or a 100 matters not a hit For the record 1971 is the first I can recall
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 6, 2018 20:34:24 GMT
Well, it may be a momentous day but that doesn't mean we should start mixing up our prepositions and adverbs, it makes us look like a bunch of amateurs Quite right. Tunics should be pressed and smart as they come over the hill to massacre us. I feel so bad that I have let the team down in this crucial hour
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 6, 2018 20:31:23 GMT
Hughes is/was the manager but you allowed this to happen. Even 3 weeks ago you publicly stated you did not know what the fuss was about Hughes was is own downfall but boy your board has a hell of a lot to answer for to allow our fall from such a strength which you created and now seem to be killing These threads honestly. “Too late” “Destroyed us” Fucking hell mate we could have a new Manager and a couple of new faces in for the Man Utd game and ready to get back on track. We are not stranded 10 points adrift there’s a shit load of football still to be played..... that is your perspective Mine is we are woeful
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 6, 2018 20:29:48 GMT
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 6, 2018 20:25:21 GMT
Hughes is/was the manager but you allowed this to happen. Even 3 weeks ago you publicly stated you did not know what the fuss was about
Hughes was is own downfall but boy your board has a hell of a lot to answer for to allow our fall from such a strength which you created and now seem to be killing
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 20:18:40 GMT
One thing I do know is that Ryan should for the sake of himself and his body just stop now
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 19:47:21 GMT
Who needs stats? Anyone could see they could not care less - new job, new club
Shaq was shocking and yet some still tried to defend him
As must win game turned in to I could not give a damn game
We are knackered
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 18:06:26 GMT
Bojan was amazing for a bit
Not his fault re the injury but he is gone as proven where ever he now plays
Some great moments but Lord knows why we gave him a new massive contract post the injury Yet more stupiddity from the club
The lad is a professional footballer and only has an affinity to our club when it matters - same as most
As Sloppy Chops said, which is so true - kissing the badge - give me a break
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 18:00:42 GMT
So Coates is Scrooge - Pulis is Ghost of Christmas Past Hughes Christmas Present Lets hope there is soon a Christmas Future Good one, but I think the points of A Christmas Carol are: the distant past may have been good, but bad behaviour will mess it up, the present is what it is, as a result of what you have done, or failed to do in the past, the future is what you make it, not what is prescribed, and it is never too late to change your ways. Let's hope the Stoke owners and management understand the message and change their ways PDQ. Unfortunately all the signs recently are they are intent on carrying on in the same manner that has got us to where we are today. I am seriously concerned that we will procrastinate throughout January, maybe spending a few £m on the odd player who is running out of contract or in the twilight of his career, and in the last week panic and spend £18m+ on a player who has spent all season sat on his back-side or never played a significant amount in the Prem. Yep - we are currently in the twilight where Coates tweaks Marley's nose as a door knob, is then followed by Cartwright in a ball of chains and then wakes up convincing himself it never happened due to a rich meal and we are in fact on track for a top ten finish
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 17:20:36 GMT
Our Mutual Friend, The Bleak House! Otherwise known as The Bet 365. Scholes is Scrooge Hapless nephew Fred Bojan is Tiny Tim
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 16:51:58 GMT
Not if they have watched The Muppets Christmas Carol Like the man said. The Muppets is way too highbrow for this board.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 16:47:58 GMT
So Coates is Scrooge - Pulis is Ghost of Christmas Past Hughes Christmas Present Lets hope there is soon a Christmas Future Too clever for this board mate! Not if they have watched The Muppets Christmas Carol
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 16:44:42 GMT
So Coates is Scrooge - Pulis is Ghost of Christmas Past Hughes Christmas Present Lets hope there is soon a Christmas Future
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 13:22:52 GMT
He's definitely a goner. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-mark-hughes-future-1014759It may already be untenable, of course, we will probably discover the answer to that one next week.
So will Hughes survive that long?
What we do know is that the owners, far from burying their head in the sand as some seem to believe, are just as alarmed by recent results and remain determined to avoid the unthinkable prospect of relegation at almost any cost.
That is their priority, above all other considerations and sensitivities. Yes, they could have acted before now, but their steadfast loyalty and support for Hughes had plenty to recommend it.
And let’s not forget that it was such qualities, particularly the courage of their convictions, that brought Tony Pulis back to Stoke City a second time and kept him in place for the next seven seasons.
He may well be. However the loyalty statement has not been admirable for a while now. Worst still is the lack of contingency planning even if they wanted to stick by him until they couldn't anymore Now to sack him mid transfer window is just awful planning however you look at it Whilst Hughes is to blame for an awful lot, it is clear as day to me that there are an awful lot more who need to be called to account
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 12:54:19 GMT
Right now we are third worst - fact
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 3, 2018 19:07:39 GMT
I will still go but if we look like we are dead a buried I may just buy a ticket for the games I can make as may be cheaper than a season ticket because there is no way I will make the many Tuesday night games
And anyway we will be able to sit pretty much wherever we want. May be interesting to try different parts of the ground again for different games
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 3, 2018 16:16:11 GMT
Errr West Ham identified who it was and ejected him from the ground. West Brom happy to leave it to West Ham to do what is necessary
Not sure what else they could do ?
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 3, 2018 9:03:52 GMT
Trust me you really don't want or need that pair of clowns ! Unless you want your club to implode and self destruct with the fall out taking years to erase Desperate times do funny things to some people’s minds and memories Will we be waving to you lot as we swap leagues or is just a bit too much for you come up this year? One week it sounds like he has sorted your issues out then the next back to square one?
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 3, 2018 9:00:03 GMT
What's he on (aside from valium)? I've seen some comments stated we need to pay 6.5M to get rid but then other threads in the past stating he was only on around 800k/year? The sums don't add up somewhere unless the 6.5M is the total for Hughes, Bowen and the rest (but even then sounds steep)
If we do go deep for a top draw coach (AVB, LVG etc.,) then we need to look at paying a min of 3-5M/year range - that's some jump if LMH current 0.8M/year is correct and one I can't see old man Coates accepting at all. We'll be looking into Poundland's window no doubt - so also rules out "Britishers" Giggs (thank god), Neville (most likely ditto), McClaren (I hope he's still so vain that he prices himself out of our reach - please), Rogers (no chance anyhow - he'll likely go the Saints once they get rid of Pellegrino), MON/Kean combo (thank fuck) etc. Its beginning to look like a dust-up between the likes of Pearson, McLeish & Lambert (FFS)
I think the story that we're low payers comes from that one dodgy list from some dodgy site that guesses at what everyone's on, with absolutely no evidence. I don't think there's any way Hughes is on less than £1m-a-year. I'd guess he's on similar to what Pulis was reportedly on at WBA and Palace (and here) - somewhere in the £1.5-2m plus bonuses (which are probably sizeable) which would put him in the middle of the pack amongst the smaller Prem clubs. You are probably right FM. That therefore rules out a few on the wishful list who I suspect would want a lot more to come to us especially given the state we are in
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 3, 2018 8:46:51 GMT
I think they'll give him Coventry game now and hope for a convincing win. If we do I can't see him going yet. It's looking that way Coventry will prove absolutely nothing even if we win except we have wasted another week and a week of the transfer window No good players are going to come in such an unstable situation if another club is also bidding
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 3, 2018 8:43:31 GMT
Do you know what all the fuss is about NOW ? Peter and John are massive Stoke fans, and I’m sure they are now as worried as the rest of us...I’ve little doubt they have the best interests of SCFC at heart but it is easy for any of us to make “decisions” when they are not real - massive decisions to make for sure and I’m confident they are working/discussing endlessly what to do and who to appoint next. Dropping into the bottom 3 will have magnified this further and I’m sure they will do all they can to get us out of this current predicament... And if that statement echos how the board interact with the Coates family, no wonder we are in such a mess
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 3, 2018 8:40:23 GMT
Any manager who came to us now,I would have to question his sanity. Is it a fair statement to say any manager that turns us down from the Championship lacks ambition? Depends on the state of the club I guess. For example the fella at Wolves would be insane to join us as they are romping away with the Championship and will probably have a very strong base in the Prem to build on The rest. I guess it comes down to how they view the strength of our team and what they have been promised with their current club Not the most enticing thing on your cv if you think we are going down and there are little funds against a backdrop of a massive rebuild next season whatever division we are in Plus we are one of the lowest payers for a Prem League manager
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 3, 2018 8:32:07 GMT
It may bring some sort of atmosphere back to the stadium. The true fan will be the 12th man. Both of these statements are misty eyed nonesense. Even in our promotion season there was no 12th man until near the end of the season. You could tip up just before kick off and pretty much sit where you wanted to. Yes there were a lot of die hardship but 12th man?? The impact it will have on job losses, half empty stadium and just the general mood are the key issues Not much of a legacy after all Mr Coates, just some great memories now tainted by your whole boards ineptitude which you have allowed
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 2, 2018 19:23:43 GMT
Reading the Percy article in full, it does seem like he's going to be sacked soon Along with the Spinks tweet yesterday I think it’s nailed on They’ll be sounding clubs and managers out and the silence from the club speaks volumes The wheels have started to turn and they’ll build up speed before too long What a sad state of affairs and timing if the cogs are only just starting to turn. They clearly have had their heads in the sand all this time. Worst timing with the crucial window because without some additions I cant see who is going to perform the minor miracle required They should all hang their heads in shame
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 2, 2018 17:33:40 GMT
If the club put restrictions on spending due to stadium redevelopment then they really only have themselves to blame after seeing how poorly we played last season. It is Stokes version of Arsenal's move to the Emirates
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