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Post by bathstokie on Nov 5, 2016 11:13:35 GMT
I don't normally post on here but I've been following this thread closely , partly because , like everyone else , I'm hoping Josh will be found safe , but also because male mental health is something we're working on in Bath & North East Somerset and is part of my role. As has already been said on here , most boys & men don't seek help when they're struggling mentally / emotionally for a range of reasons including stigma and stereotypical definitions of "masculinity". We've done quite a bit of consultation with boys, young men and older males and you won't be surprised by what they are telling us : that they are reluctant to ask for help because it's seen as a sign of weakness; that they fear teasing and worse if they talk about problems they're having ; that they feel that bullying of boys is not taken as seriously as that of girls ; that they're often told or expected to "man up" ; that there are few male role models who show them that it's Ok to show their feelings , to cry , to struggle and that they have a right to do this and to get help. It's even more difficult for young men who're gay (and may not be out) and for young men who have other vulnerabilities (like being in care or coming from a background where there is domestic violence and abuse or where their families are struggling in some way) .
We have a strategic group who are looking at this and it is being led by men (male teachers , support workers, CAMHS workers, voluntary agencies and young people's counselling services ). It is focusing on what boys and young men are telling us and how they would like us to respond. We are at a relatively early stage but some of the things they're saying so far are : we need more males supporting this work (both role models and also working in schools and other settings so that boys have an option of discussing issues with men -who are not as prevalent as women in pastoral / caring roles); because of the current stigma they want us to think more carefully about the way in which we offer support to them (e.g.not having to wait outside an office where they can easily be seen and where they fear being teased, ridiculed and even bullied ) ; raising staff awareness of all of these issues ; training male staff - e.g. PE and other staff and youth workers in other settings ; making sure we raise awareness of it with young people too and have campaigns led by young people ; being able to access support via outdoor learning and alternative activities - whether they are sporting , creative , music etc., ; having peer mentors who can support them .
There is already some really good practice out there - and some of you will be aware of projects and work taking place in Stoke. I would imagine though it's not strategic or consistent . Anyway it's partly about changing culture and notions of masculinity .If you're interested in finding out more about what we're doing PM me (or if enough of you are interested I can update you on here)
One thing we can all do is what you've already been doing on here to try to reduce stigma - show that it's Ok to show emotion, to cry , to talk about feelings and do this with our families and our friends. And to find out how we can support ourselves and each other . I've been imnpressed and moved (but not surprised) by the compassion and empathy show on this thread . We're Stokies , after all ...
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Post by bathstokie on Apr 17, 2015 17:34:43 GMT
all the very best
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Post by bathstokie on Mar 11, 2014 21:00:27 GMT
You're spot on about fallover football - very irritating
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Post by bathstokie on Mar 11, 2014 20:27:36 GMT
no pretender - live in Bath and support Stoke
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Post by bathstokie on Mar 11, 2014 20:18:26 GMT
and the festival of "fallover football" is gay for what reason ?
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Post by bathstokie on Aug 27, 2013 19:39:46 GMT
John Fudge Geoff Hershey Peter Crunch
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Post by bathstokie on Jun 30, 2012 10:01:06 GMT
Nice picture of our pitch invasion in 2008
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Post by bathstokie on Jan 28, 2012 9:37:53 GMT
I live in Bath . Got a season ticket . Combine the games with seeing my mum who lives in Kidsgrove
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Post by bathstokie on Dec 9, 2011 20:07:15 GMT
I have a vague recollection of singing words to that effect at one of the karaoke sessions down the London Road on the night of our promotion to the Premier League, so I'd be up for it .
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Post by bathstokie on Apr 18, 2011 18:29:14 GMT
Nice footage Chris . Especially liked the Mexican wave in the train ! Looking forward to the next instalment ...to be continued !!
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Post by bathstokie on Mar 27, 2010 13:10:59 GMT
Born in Burslem, lived 18 years in Kidsgrove, Uni in Nottingham, now live in Bath. Come up to half the home games
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Post by bathstokie on Feb 28, 2010 21:31:48 GMT
Think of the future not the past I look forward to seeing you score the winning header against Germany in the World Cup Final Believe !!!
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Post by bathstokie on Dec 10, 2009 21:04:13 GMT
Come on . We can go one better than dull. Shower caps, towels, loofahs or any other related shower room paraphernalia.
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Post by bathstokie on Sept 24, 2009 17:51:29 GMT
Agree with all the comments above , especially the last few. We need to make sure the voices of the vast majority - and not just the few - are heard . We also have to do something ourselves on the rare occasions we hear this Nazi bile. What about Stoke being the first club in the country to have an anti-racist chant ..
if you all hate racists ....
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Post by bathstokie on Jun 4, 2009 21:15:57 GMT
Haven't seen the film yet but have met Ken Loach a couple of times as he lives in Bath, is a committed Bath City fan and very modest about his excellent achievements (even though the team he supports haven't got many to be proud of ). He is also very community spirited and always keen to support local initiatives like our local "Show Racism the Red Card"programme in local schools. When I spoke to him he was genuinely excited about working with Eric Cantona and I'm sure his new film will be worth seeing
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Post by bathstokie on Apr 23, 2009 21:50:40 GMT
Pugh, Barney, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert Dibble and Grubb. Whatever We are staying up We are staying up
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Post by bathstokie on Mar 21, 2009 22:18:58 GMT
Apart from the obvious:- put £10 on Fulham to win against Manure and won £70. Went to see Bath Rugby , who won. Kidsgrove Athletic won. Ireland won . Haven't checked Lottery result yet - watch this space
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Post by bathstokie on Mar 13, 2009 16:33:36 GMT
Just put my winnings from Kauto Star on Stoke to win at 13-2. Feeling lucky
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Post by bathstokie on Jan 18, 2009 12:30:54 GMT
Thought I was feeling a bit better and then I saw the papers and our lads prostrate after the game after giving their all.
What can you say to cheer me up ?
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Post by bathstokie on Jan 17, 2009 20:26:19 GMT
2-2
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Post by bathstokie on Dec 8, 2008 23:26:24 GMT
I don't get to attend many games as I live in the SW but we are a thousand times better than we were against Bristol City last season and we've got to start to combat the label which the press and (jealous) fans from other clubs are trying to load on us. We still have a long way to go to make sure we stay up, but we are now starting to show flair and class for longer periods of the game and it's being noticed :-
"On Saturday they were principally undone by Ricardo Fuller. The striker's introduction and swift reduction of Fabricio Coloccini to a nervous wreck infused Newcastle with an increasing self-doubt. Fuller easily evaded Coloccini to conjure Mamady Sidibe's goal and had established himself as the best player on view when Riley ruled that Sébastien Bassong had shoved him. Cue a flicked-on Glenn Whelan free-kick and Faye's leveller.
It was all so very different from the last time Stoke were in town for an FA Cup third-round replay defeat on the January night that Keegan made the most evocative of managerial returns to St James' Park. Eleven months on, that evening's optimism has long since evaporated to be replaced by mundane worries about Newcastle's lack of central midfield options and Owen's increasingly uncertain future.
Stoke took full advantage, looking the classier side once they started moderating their reliance on long and dead balls. With Rory Delap and Amdy Faye making way for the more subtle Fuller and Michael Tonge, Tony Pulis's side began out-passing Kinnear's with Danny Pugh also impressing. "Michael Owen might be going on a free transfer soon," Pulis mused. "We can't afford his wages but I do think a lot of other people will be very interested."
Tyneside's midwinter threatens to be particularly bleak.
Man of the match: Ricardo Fuller (Stoke)" Today's Guardian
Oh ye of little faith start to believe !
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Post by bathstokie on Dec 6, 2008 17:37:35 GMT
at last you've stopped defending the racists Don't mind you insulting me but where's your response to the original question on here ....?
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Post by bathstokie on Dec 6, 2008 16:10:59 GMT
Hardly worth replying to you CD as you haven't bothered to read my other posts You're probably a fan of those scumbag BNP and their ignorant racist bile
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Post by bathstokie on Dec 6, 2008 0:09:13 GMT
Last one before I get some sleep and try to stop worrying about the match tomorrow.
People are "crap" at school largely because they're told they're crap and they believe it so don't achieve their potential. Whatever people's colour, faith or background we need to make sure they're encouraged to do well. We all have gifts and talents.
Are you a country and western fan or is that your real name ?
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Post by bathstokie on Dec 5, 2008 23:32:26 GMT
Lots of conflicting views expressed following the bbc article . Not sure what you're trying to say here - Don't get me wrong Willie Nelson - I'm against every sort of bullying and harassment and would stand up for people whatever names they got called. Don't see how you work out that what I've said is racist . Look forward to a world free from all that ...we all need to do our bit
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Post by bathstokie on Dec 5, 2008 21:31:14 GMT
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Post by bathstokie on Dec 5, 2008 21:19:11 GMT
Willie Nelson Suppose you've got the evidence base to back up your contention - do ginger people do less well at school ? Are they more prevalent in the criminal jusice system ? Do they get accused of being terrorists Do they get shit through their letterboxes ? I think not .
But that shouldn't stop you from forming the Ginger Equality Council
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Post by bathstokie on Dec 5, 2008 20:49:06 GMT
Racism : the belief that a ground such as race, colour, language, religion, nationality or ethnic origin justifies contempt for a person or group of persons
Racist bullying / harassment : a range of hurtful behaviour that makes a person feel unwelcome, marginalised, excluded, powerless or worthless because of their colour, ethnicity, culture, faith, nationality.
It's not the same if you're fat, ginger, have a big nose etc., Racist comments offend not just the victim but also their family, their community and culture. Passion yes, banter yes, but racism is not funny, it's not clever and it's got to be stamped out.
Oatcakeater I'm not suggesting you enter into a philosophical dialogue with the Neanderthals but by doing nothing you condone their comments. Stand up for what you believe in and you will get support from the vast (decent) majority.
Look forward to your post after the next match.
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Post by bathstokie on Nov 29, 2008 0:13:49 GMT
Local rivalry is healthy so want Vale to improve. Also Vale was my (late) dad's team
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Post by bathstokie on Nov 28, 2008 17:32:20 GMT
Coming up from Bath to see my third match of the season . My nephew Jamie is coming with me and thinks he's a Man City fan so we need to MAKE SOME NOISE and score at least 3 to convert him .
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