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Post by trebor63 on Jun 18, 2009 17:52:38 GMT
With stuff like that (Juryless trials) and labours 'open' enquiry into the illegal war which was actually all about weapons of mass dest erm oil errrrr getting rid of a dictator ahh no I remember now! Helping out the local people (a couple of thousand miles away but locallish), being held behind closed doors probably a meeting between bLiar and Clown it does open even the eyes of the most loyal Commie Labour supporter.
It really isn't too difficult to build ip a case for the 'silent' dictatorship these winkers are slowly but surely building
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Post by serpico on Jun 18, 2009 18:31:20 GMT
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Post by starkiller on Jun 22, 2009 14:47:52 GMT
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Post by serpico on Jun 22, 2009 15:04:24 GMT
Didn't they pass a law a few months back which makes it illegal to take pictures of the police ? under some new anti terror legislation, if I remember rightly the law was written very vaguely and could be open to the interpretation of what you consider terrorism to be, bear in mind recently a fisherman was arrested under this law for flashing a laser pen at some ducks. www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2047646_were_anglers_not_terrorists
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Post by bostedclog on Jun 22, 2009 15:31:15 GMT
Didn't they pass a law a few months back which makes it illegal to take pictures of the police ? under some new anti terror legislation, if I remember rightly the law was written very vaguely and could be open to the interpretation of what you consider terrorism to be, bear in mind recently a fisherman was arrested under this law for flashing a laser pen at some ducks. www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2047646_were_anglers_not_terroristsOnly if they can prove that you were going to use the information for terrorist purposes. The next time I go to London I am going to make an effort to photograph No 10 and somewhere else just to see what happens.
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Post by riptide on Jun 22, 2009 18:18:21 GMT
Didn't they pass a law a few months back which makes it illegal to take pictures of the police ? under some new anti terror legislation, if I remember rightly the law was written very vaguely and could be open to the interpretation of what you consider terrorism to be, bear in mind recently a fisherman was arrested under this law for flashing a laser pen at some ducks. www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2047646_were_anglers_not_terroristsOnly if they can prove that you were going to use the information for terrorist purposes. The next time I go to London I am going to make an effort to photograph No 10 and somewhere else just to see what happens. I found it quite ironic last week that Mr.Milliband the Foreign secretary;was decrying the fact that citizens weren't being allowed to march peacefully in Tehran.This from a member of our government who won't let you hold a demonstration near to the Houses of Parliament.So its alright in another country,but not our own?
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Post by serpico on Jun 22, 2009 21:53:30 GMT
Only if they can prove that you were going to use the information for terrorist purposes. The next time I go to London I am going to make an effort to photograph No 10 and somewhere else just to see what happens. I found it quite ironic last week that Mr.Milliband the Foreign secretary;was decrying the fact that citizens weren't being allowed to march peacefully in Tehran.This from a member of our government who won't let you hold a demonstration near to the Houses of Parliament.So its alright in another country,but not our own? True, another case of the government holding others to standards they don't even apply to themselves, they act as if they're the beacon of freedom and human rights, it's a sickening joke when you consider the last 8 years, quite how these people have the brass neck to stand and lecture other governments is quite astounding, particularly a government in a country where we unleashed one of the most repressive governments in history on only a few short decades ago. If the people of this country rose up to over throw this government you can bet your bottom dollar they'd be murdering people in the streets to stop them. It's like Ian Huntley lecturing people on how to bring their children up. disclaimer: this is not meant as a defence of the Iranian regime, 'all governments are liars and murderers', as the late great Bill Hicks once said.
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Post by bostedclog on Jun 22, 2009 22:16:27 GMT
Well that blows my idea out of the window then. ;D Wankers Apparently all the street is protected by Iron bars . ;D Because of this Gates were installed at both ends of the street during the premiership of Margaret Thatcher due to terrorist threats. On February 7, 1991, the Provisional IRA used a white van parked in Whitehall to launch a mortar shell at Number 10. It exploded in the back garden, blowing in the windows of the Cabinet Room while Prime Minister John Major was holding a Cabinet meeting. Major moved to Admiralty House while repairs were completed. Because of this actual attack, heavier security measures were imposed, if not always visible. A guardhouse stands at the gated entrance accommodating several uniformed heavily armed police. The Metropolitan Police Service's DPG (Diplomatic Protection Group) provides protection for ministers in London, acting on intelligence from MI5. After the IRA mortar attack, the original black oak door was replaced by a new blast-proof steel one. Regularly removed for refurbishment and replaced with a replica, it is so heavy that it takes eight men to lift it. The brass letterbox still bears the legend "First Lord of the Treasury". The original door was put on display in the Churchill Museum at the Cabinet War Rooms.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 7, 2019 20:13:04 GMT
The reason for the two-tier political system is because not enough people give a shit about politics. This of course leads to the 'chicken and egg style' of arguement of which came first: politicians apathy for the electorate or vice-versa. As long as people are prepared to swallow the sort of crap that is thrown at them then it will carry on being chucked. And the moment they grow a set of bollocks and vote against the norm, vote for change you spend your time on the Brexit thread saying we are wrong
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 7, 2019 20:35:14 GMT
Folk are just £@#&ed o££ that it’s a dogs dinner of a car crash of a decision, with no thought or plan & is still yes/no politics. Nothing sorted, nothing gained, no progression just regression & recession 📉
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Post by pearo on Feb 7, 2019 20:38:51 GMT
The reason for the two-tier political system is because not enough people give a shit about politics. This of course leads to the 'chicken and egg style' of arguement of which came first: politicians apathy for the electorate or vice-versa. As long as people are prepared to swallow the sort of crap that is thrown at them then it will carry on being chucked. And the moment they grow a set of bollocks and vote against the norm, vote for change you spend your time on the Brexit thread saying we are wrong People can change their mind over time. Apparently 37% of people under 25 who voted Remain would now vote Leave.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 7, 2019 22:22:14 GMT
The reason for the two-tier political system is because not enough people give a shit about politics. This of course leads to the 'chicken and egg style' of arguement of which came first: politicians apathy for the electorate or vice-versa. As long as people are prepared to swallow the sort of crap that is thrown at them then it will carry on being chucked. And the moment they grow a set of bollocks and vote against the norm, vote for change you spend your time on the Brexit thread saying we are wrong Where have I said anyone is wrong?
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 8, 2019 3:10:59 GMT
The most enslaved are those who consider themselves to be free.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 8, 2019 6:33:11 GMT
The most enslaved are those who consider themselves to be free. So conversely, are the enslaved the most free...
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Post by flea79 on Feb 8, 2019 16:19:52 GMT
The most enslaved are those who consider themselves to be free. So conversely, are the enslaved the most free... freedom through subjugation etc etc?
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Post by thevoid on Feb 9, 2019 10:01:36 GMT
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Post by desman2 on Feb 9, 2019 10:14:41 GMT
The FPTP flaw is when in a general election more people can and in a lot of cases do vote agains't the candidate who actually gets called the winner.
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Post by shangamuzo on Feb 9, 2019 13:09:13 GMT
I remember telly clips and reading papers of far off 'backward' countries where the people were told what to do what to think and what they could and couldn't say. Are we now that county? With us the most filmed country in the world via CCTV and laws being passed to make it a criminal offence to say certain words (the latest being 'gay' type insults / references. And the virtual police state with our very own 100% innocent fans being rounded up and shipped out of Manchester against their will for...... well, nothing! Has political correctness now turned us in to mindless cabbages for the loony left to manipulate at will? www.capc.co.uk/famous_non-pc.htmUntil thought police actually exist-they know what you're thinking and can prove it-no we're not mindless cabbages.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Feb 9, 2019 13:30:40 GMT
I worry that we are becoming a plutocracy - the very wealthy act in such a way as to protect their wealth (not unsurprising) but exert influence in covert ways and will do anything to keep any of their wrongdoings from public scrutiny. Aaron Banks and Philip Green come to mind. They live in a bubble with no knowledge about the lives and concerns of ordinary people. It is no wonder that people do not turn out to vote in elections. There are exceptions. In politics I quite like Ken Clarke and Frank Field, for example and some enlightened employers - J.C.B. owners recently gave all their employees £1,000 by way of sharing the profits they made last year. By and large I find a lack of integrity in British public life and much self seeking by those in power.
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Post by desman2 on Feb 9, 2019 14:25:18 GMT
I remember telly clips and reading papers of far off 'backward' countries where the people were told what to do what to think and what they could and couldn't say. Are we now that county? With us the most filmed country in the world via CCTV and laws being passed to make it a criminal offence to say certain words (the latest being 'gay' type insults / references. And the virtual police state with our very own 100% innocent fans being rounded up and shipped out of Manchester against their will for...... well, nothing! Has political correctness now turned us in to mindless cabbages for the loony left to manipulate at will? www.capc.co.uk/famous_non-pc.htmUntil thought police actually exist-they know what you're thinking and can prove it-no we're not mindless cabbages. The thought police do exist by way of the media right down to some on message boards like these.
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Feb 10, 2019 8:08:58 GMT
I worry that we are becoming a plutocracy - the very wealthy act in such a way as to protect their wealth (not unsurprising) but exert influence in covert ways and will do anything to keep any of their wrongdoings from public scrutiny. Aaron Banks and Philip Green come to mind. They live in a bubble with no knowledge about the lives and concerns of ordinary people. It is no wonder that people do not turn out to vote in elections. There are exceptions. In politics I quite like Ken Clarke and Frank Field, for example and some enlightened employers - J.C.B. owners recently gave all their employees £1,000 by way of sharing the profits they made last year. By and large I find a lack of integrity in British public life and much self seeking by those in power. Becoming a plutocracy?! We haven’t not been one since the Vikings invaded and fucked shit up for a bit, we settled right back into one though.
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