Ledley for Wales

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Looks nout special to be honest

Infact he is playing pretty wank, gave the ball away a fair few times. Im actually glad we never got him and signed Etherington instead

[stokelad84]

38 year old Litmanen is the best player on the pitch. What does that say for the 'young' Welsh team?

[lordeffinghamhunt]

I don't know. what does it say for them?

[march4]

Average Championship player.

If (when) we stay up, our sights should be set way higher than this.

[PickSCFC]

Bale looks quality though

[stokecityscott]

Agree march4

We should set our targets alot higher than a average championship player, if he was that special he would be in the premiership.

[jbstokie]

Litmanen who used to be at Liverpool? Always rated him

Ledley can fuck off

[thats entertainment]

Bale should not have try to play off-side for thier goal! Absolutely comical and show IMO how toss he is.

Random fact, but in every League game that Bale has started in for Spurs, they have not won. Bet he loves that stat!

[daveray26 nealy 27]

im glad we didnt pay 7 million for him

[diaofan]

Mar 28, 2009 16:32:16 GMT jbstokie said:

Litmanen who used to be at Liverpool? Always rated him

He's a quality player - well anyone who has played for Liverpool, Barcelona and Ajax must have some ability

Signed for Fulham last year, but had a few heart problems so didn't make an appearance

[PickSCFC]

and to think that we bidded 6-7mil for him and most people on here were saying ''we need ledley'', just goes to show that most people on here no naf all about football. I was glad we didnt piss 6-7mil up the wall on him.

[stokelad84]

Mar 28, 2009 16:24:36 GMT lordeffinghamhunt said:

I don't know. what does it say for them?

It says he peaked 5 or 6 years ago, so these young players who aspire to play in the Premiership should be playing better than him

[lordeffinghamhunt]

Not same old Wales. They are piss poor just like have always been.

[Laughing Gravy]

On that showing we dodged a massive bullet there.
Could have easily been another Kitson.
He was wank in a wank team.

[PickSCFC]

ive never rated him, cant understand loads of people on here raving about him

[sweetandinnocent]

Mar 28, 2009 16:27:59 GMT @stokecityscott said:

Agree march4

We should set our targets alot higher than a average championship player, if he was that special he would be in the premiership.

he would be ifwe'd managed to sign him

[Banega23]

Mar 28, 2009 16:26:27 GMT PickSCFC said:

Bale looks quality though

well yeah, if you discount the fact that the first goal was his fault.

His crossing is superb however.

[stokelad84]

I wouldnt be suprised is Bale ends up being a left winger or center midfielder (like Gareth Barry)

[nathan]

I see the "Get Ledley" brigade have disappeared off the face of the earth.

On a separate note, Gareth Bale is abysmal.

Here he is -

[Pugsley]

Mar 28, 2009 18:28:03 GMT nathan said:

I see the "Get Ledley" brigade have disappeared off the face of the earth.

On a separate note, Gareth Bale is abysmal.

Here he is -

If Cardiff don't go up then Ledley will be in the Premiership next season, most probably in a Stoke shirt. Pulis likes him and has tried to sign him twice before. IMHO he is a decent player who would enhance our squad.

[nathan]

Mar 28, 2009 18:48:10 GMT Pugsley said:

Mar 28, 2009 18:28:03 GMT nathan said:

I see the "Get Ledley" brigade have disappeared off the face of the earth.

On a separate note, Gareth Bale is abysmal.

Here he is -

If Cardiff don't go up then Ledley will be in the Premiership next season, most probably in a Stoke shirt. Pulis likes him and has tried to sign him twice before. IMHO he is a decent player who would enhance our squad.

Somewhat bizarrely, I feel for TP it was either or with regard Ledley and Ethers. It's not particularly logical considering they are completely different players, though the Pulis mind baffles.

I personally don't rate Ledley. He's not terrible by any means, but at £6 million quid you'd hope for a little more than decent. He's always struck me as an "okay" sort of player.

[Pugsley]

Mar 28, 2009 18:55:14 GMT nathan said:

Mar 28, 2009 18:48:10 GMT Pugsley said:

If Cardiff don't go up then Ledley will be in the Premiership next season, most probably in a Stoke shirt. Pulis likes him and has tried to sign him twice before. IMHO he is a decent player who would enhance our squad.

Somewhat bizarrely, I feel for TP it was either or with regard Ledley and Ethers. It's not particularly logical considering they are completely different players, though the Pulis mind baffles.

I personally don't rate Ledley. He's not terrible by any means, but at £6 million quid you'd hope for a little more than decent. He's always struck me as an "okay" sort of player.

£6million is stupid money, but that is what you have to pay for British 'talent'. The club HAVE to look at the European market. It's one of Pulis's big failings.

[march4]

Why do we have to look at the European market. We need players with Prem experience and there are plenty of bargains about eg Tommy, Abdy, BT, Ethers.

[markfitdt]

Litmanen showed class is permanent today, absolutely awesome game.

[Pugsley]

Mar 28, 2009 19:29:38 GMT march4 said:

Why do we have to look at the European market. We need players with Prem experience and there are plenty of bargains about eg Tommy, Abdy, BT, Ethers.

We need good players, whether they have experience is irrelevant. How much experience have Wigans, Fulhams, West Hams players got? Palacios from god knows where to Wigan - £750K, two good seasons and moved on for £12million.

Sonko and Kitson have premier league experience but have proved to be rubbish. That's £8million quid down the swanny.

[march4]

I think Prem experience is relevant. Even with it signings are a gamble eg Kitson, Tonge, Sonko, but without it surely the gamble is even greater.

Can a club in our position gamble on someone who has never played in the Prem. I think the risk is too great.

Anyway, it will interfere with our aim of playing the entire Senegalese national team.

[Pugsley]

Mar 28, 2009 19:53:45 GMT march4 said:

I think Prem experience is relevant. Even with it signings are a gamble eg Kitson, Tonge, Sonko, but without it surely the gamble is even greater.

Can a club in our position gamble on someone who has never played in the Prem. I think the risk is too great.

Anyway, it will interfere with our aim of playing the entire Senegalese national team.

It is totally irrelevant. Most of the the players brought into the Premier League have no top flight English league experience. It's about identifying, scouting, signing and developing good players.

Pulis needs to look at other markets or we'll end up with more Sonko's, Tongues, Soares, Olifinwhatisname etc etc. We can't afford it - we need to get value for money.

We'll agree to disagree.

[nathan]

Premier league experience has counted for nothing when it comes to the Kitson's, Tonge's, Soares' and Donko's of this world.

On this basis, it would seem foolish to suggest that PL experience is the basis on which we target players. After all, Pericard has PL experience. Experience at this level should be considered a bonus - we really should be capable of identifying players who will adapt to the EPL.

[Deleted]

Is Ledley a glorified, press-magnified younger Liam? Lively enouhg in the Championship but no real pace? TBH, I think Pulis was after him until the price tag became way to high for how good the bloke actually is. As usual the British market is vastly over-inflated, so there has to be some gems in the 2nd tier European Leagues we can grab who are just as good if not better and half the price.

[Caddick988]

The only Welsh player i'd like to see in a Stoke shirt is Koumas. I think he was the only player yesturday to show any kind of quality in there side. Would be good in our midfield IMO.