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Post by millermay1968 on Mar 25, 2009 2:49:56 GMT
Ok we have,nt lost there for a couple of years and they are shite and bottom of the league but they are at home and our away form is putting it mildly shit.They are a good side and if we go there being to confident then im afraid it could be curtains,hope im wrong but not feeling to good about this one,lose this one and we are in the shit so lets not get to over confident and show them some resect because they are at home and we are away and we all know what our away form is like,pretty shit
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Post by besty on Mar 25, 2009 3:34:10 GMT
millermay, thats actually the most sense you have ever posted. What we need to do IMO is be more physical and batter them, they really are the softest team in the division, so get up them early and we'll be fine, and have a HUGE step to safety..COYRRP!!
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Mar 25, 2009 4:34:03 GMT
The ref could have a big influence on this one I think. If he's in protective mardarse mode then I think we will struggle. If he allows the strong tackle then the game will be ours, they can't cope with us. WBA players will be shitting it, lose to us and they can kiss it all goodbye, if we lose then we should just about stay outside the dropzone. My guess is if we get two wins on the bounce we should put the champagne on ice, we could well be 9 points clear of the barcodes
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Post by beagriestache on Mar 25, 2009 7:40:20 GMT
Ok we have,nt lost there for a couple of years and they are shite and bottom of the league but they are at home and our away form is putting it mildly shit.They are a good side and if we go there being to confident then im afraid it could be curtains,hope im wrong but not feeling to good about this one,lose this one and we are in the shit so lets not get to over confident and show them some resect because they are at home and we are away and we all know what our away form is like,pretty shit Same old shit, time after time. Ignore this pillock. Not a Stoke fan. Now moderating his posts slightly cos his anti-Stoke crap has become so obvious. Search through previous posts - never anything good to say. Ignore.
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Post by hanibal7 on Mar 25, 2009 7:47:59 GMT
Any away game is going to be difficult for Stoke but to stay up we have to take at least a point from teams below us.We wont win all the next 4 home games i am sure of that,so a couple of away points is needed
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Post by dozintheseventees on Mar 25, 2009 7:57:21 GMT
Millermay:
Being too confident against ANYONE would be a mistake but being confident and positive is ESSENTIAL to success.
Can't believe that there is anyone left who hasn't 'worked you out' yet! You appear before/during and sometimes after (when we lose) every single game to spout some negative crap.
I know that this amuses you but the joke has worn extremely thin and, mate, you're just not funny.
give it up!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 25, 2009 8:06:01 GMT
Millermay, you said "lose this one and we are in the shit" so how do you work that out? I reckon we'll get something out of the game but, if we don't, the chances are we'll still be out of the bottom three with 7 games to play.
Stop being alarmist - and what makes you think that either TP or the players are going to be too confident about an away game - I've been to most of our away games this season and we haven't looked overconfident in any of them. If anything we have given our opponents too much respect in many games - especially in the first half.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 25, 2009 8:59:33 GMT
overconfident is not in our makeup away from home...in fact in the first half of most away games we have looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights...so I am all for a bit of swagger for this one...we are a better side than Brazil so lets not be timid.An early goal from us would be handy As for being in the shit if we lose.We will lose games before the end of the season and it wouldn't be a disaster to lose this one...Brazil are well and truly in the last chance saloon and its a genuine must win game for them but still they are unlikely to overhaul us and games against Blackburn Hull and Newcastle are much bigger
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Post by lancer on Mar 25, 2009 9:09:24 GMT
Of course the thing is, no matter how confident we (the fans) are, the team will approach the game with a diferent attitude. They will not take the game as won, and know that they will have to do their job properly. Understandably the fans (some of them, anyway) do get a bit carried away with our past successes agaisnt the Baggies, but the majority, more realistic one know that in football, nowt is guaranteed.
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Post by suttontiger on Mar 25, 2009 10:57:33 GMT
Ok we have,nt lost there for a couple of years and they are shite and bottom of the league but they are at home and our away form is putting it mildly shit.They are a good side and if we go there being to confident then im afraid it could be curtains,hope im wrong but not feeling to good about this one,lose this one and we are in the shit so lets not get to over confident and show them some resect because they are at home and we are away and we all know what our away form is like,pretty shit I didn't like to say anything, but I think they will beat you. They are not bad at home, and we don't mention your away record
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2009 10:59:04 GMT
Ok we have,nt lost there for a couple of years and they are shite and bottom of the league but they are at home and our away form is putting it mildly shit.They are a good side and if we go there being to confident then im afraid it could be curtains,hope im wrong but not feeling to good about this one,lose this one and we are in the shit so lets not get to over confident and show them some resect because they are at home and we are away and we all know what our away form is like,pretty shit I didn't like to say anything, but I think they will beat you. They are not bad at home, and we don't mention your away record I have the same shitty feeling!
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Post by boothenbus on Mar 25, 2009 10:59:49 GMT
Hey who is confident. In this league anybody can beat anybody.
Sutton, when you came to Stoke I heard Phil Brown was looking to buy a house in the area. Is this true? I heard he liked Fen-tan?
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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 25, 2009 11:03:43 GMT
Ok we have,nt lost there for a couple of years and they are shite and bottom of the league but they are at home and our away form is putting it mildly shit.They are a good side and if we go there being to confident then im afraid it could be curtains,hope im wrong but not feeling to good about this one,lose this one and we are in the shit so lets not get to over confident and show them some resect because they are at home and we are away and we all know what our away form is like,pretty shit I didn't like to say anything, but I think they will beat you. They are not bad at home, and we don't mention your away record Big deal. Seen our record against West Brom for the last 10 years or so ST? Statistics can show whatever you want them to but if the big boys can't always pass it round us and "don't like it up 'em"what makes you think West Brom can do it?
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Post by dozintheseventees on Mar 25, 2009 11:08:43 GMT
I understand many people's reservations about this fixture and the law of averages says they MUST beat us some time soon. Neither myself, most of our supporters and certainly not the management and playing staff will display the slightest whiff of over-confidence for thuis fixture.
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We SHOULD be confident. Why would we not? They are bottom of the league and our current form is much better than theirs. We have been better than them throughout the season and it is an absolute must-win game FOR THEM.
we should go there full of confidence and be positive. That is NOT over-confidence.
(Nonetheless, I share everyone's reservations - that's just the Stokie in me)
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Post by potters11 on Mar 25, 2009 11:16:04 GMT
I am not confident at all.
I do feel that due to our recent home results, a win is no longer imperative, we can take a point, and that would be more than enough to keep us on track.
Our away form suggests we will collect a point at best.
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Post by Targaryen Stokie on Mar 25, 2009 11:19:10 GMT
Even though you're a depressing, negative bastard millermay you do make some good points, but I find it hard to take someone seriously who uses a comma in place of an apostrophe.
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Post by assessornum1 on Mar 25, 2009 12:26:20 GMT
we will win this game, im bloody certain.
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Mar 25, 2009 12:41:07 GMT
Ok we have,nt lost there for a couple of years and they are shite and bottom of the league but they are at home and our away form is putting it mildly shit.They are a good side and if we go there being to confident then im afraid it could be curtains,hope im wrong but not feeling to good about this one,lose this one and we are in the shit so lets not get to over confident and show them some resect because they are at home and we are away and we all know what our away form is like,pretty shit Fair play Miller - benefit of the doubt - this is a reasonable post. We cannot assume this will be another one for the record books. I think WBA will see it as their absolute last throw of the dice. Lose it and they may as well give up, win and they earn the right to do it all again next week and then the next etc. That said - it could play into our hands. Say we were playing them 2 games later when they were as good as down - pressure off - you know what teams like that can do. Instead, to have any hope at all, they will have to go for it - and that could actually open them up for exploitation. Too early for predictions, but I think a draw may be on the cards.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 25, 2009 14:08:26 GMT
Millermay, you said "lose this one and we are in the shit" so how do you work that out? I reckon we'll get something out of the game but, if we don't, the chances are we'll still be out of the bottom three with 7 games to play. Stop being alarmist - and what makes you think that either TP or the players are going to be too confident about an away game - I've been to most of our away games this season and we haven't looked overconfident in any of them. If anything we have given our opponents too much respect in many games - especially in the first half. LP I can't be arsed to search back but he said the same about the 'boro game ie if we didn't win it we were down. Same old alarmist cobblers but with a slightly more conciliatory twist.
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Post by stan on Mar 25, 2009 14:15:56 GMT
No doubt, Pulis' partial explanantion for our poor away is that the club isn't used to playing at PL grounds is a fairly ropey excuse. However, we are used to going to the Hawthorns and doing well. That must count for something.
We are West Brom's bogey team and we've got a great chance of going there and at least avoiding defeat. We could lose, of course we could, but the win is a distinct possibility. If we are going to win anywhere, it will be there. I'd take a draw if it were offered now, though.
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Post by th05 on Mar 25, 2009 14:16:06 GMT
I agree, hard game.
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Post by jpm64 on Mar 25, 2009 14:46:12 GMT
Ok we have,nt lost there for a couple of years and they are shite and bottom of the league but they are at home and our away form is putting it mildly shit.They are a good side and if we go there being to confident then im afraid it could be curtains,hope im wrong but not feeling to good about this one,lose this one and we are in the shit so lets not get to over confident and show them some resect because they are at home and we are away and we all know what our away form is like,pretty shit I think you'll find it's Being TOO confident, not Being to confident
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 25, 2009 14:57:25 GMT
There's a difference between confidence and arrogance..
If we go into this game expecting to win..'because we always do'...then we may regret it..
WBA gave us a game at The Brit earlier in the season that had 0-0 written all over it until Mama broke the deadlock 5 minutes from time...
They will be fighting for their lives at The Hawthorns and tbh I would settle for a point provided we beat The Jaw-dees a week later...
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Post by magicmanfuller on Mar 25, 2009 15:20:28 GMT
Ok we have,nt lost there for a couple of years and they are shite and bottom of the league but they are at home and our away form is putting it mildly shit.They are a good side and if we go there being to confident then im afraid it could be curtains,hope im wrong but not feeling to good about this one,lose this one and we are in the shit so lets not get to over confident and show them some resect because they are at home and we are away and we all know what our away form is like,pretty shit I didn't like to say anything, but I think they will beat you. They are not bad at home, and we don't mention your away record What a suprise. Our away form is just as bad as their general form, what makes you think they will beat us? It must be their amazing defence featuring donk and paul 'the hacker' robinson. On paper we are a bhetter side, simple as that, and if we dont get a draw from the game at least ill be very suprised/dissapointed
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Post by grayscfc on Mar 25, 2009 15:36:59 GMT
A win at WBA isn`t essential, any point away is a GOOD point but we should be capable of taking advantage of brazil as they are by far and away the weakest side in the division and despite their `on the ball` capabilities they are the worst too. But...we must go there and respect them as i`m positive tone will as they will fancy their chances against us-moanbray has said as much due to the fact were down there with them. However we look at it this game should present us with a good chance of a first away win but if we don`t it is`nt all over for us.
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Mar 25, 2009 15:53:19 GMT
Does anybody really beleive that TP will be arriving at the hawthorns expecting an easy 3 points? ??? he isnt daft, if wba lose they are as good as down. They will be scrapping but we will be prepared for it knowing that 3 points for us could mean a lot for us staying up. Don't worry, we'll be ready for it!! 3 points to the potters
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Post by luke45 on Mar 25, 2009 16:12:42 GMT
I do agree that we must be wary, but if ever there was a game for Pulis to change the away approach this is the one. Far too often we sit back from the off, try to obtain and deal with their posession and chances and ultimately get caught, and by the time attacking players are introduced in the second half its near enough always damage limitation with the game being over.
West Brom are a decent football playing team, but they are also host the worst defence in the league vulnerable in alot of areas, and well capable of conceding early on, and if we did stick an early goal into them, i honestly think we'd win the match.
I also agree with Lakeland Potter that we aren't ' in the shit ' if we lose, our home form is PROVEN, 28 points at home is nothing short of fantastic, and i still believe we'll take at least 9-10 points from our remaining home games , maybe even 12? and i think 9 would be enough to keep us up this season.
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Post by scfclifer on Mar 25, 2009 16:37:23 GMT
over confidence my arse its the Baggies ffs
They are where they are because they are shit , I want 3 points from this game no expect 3 points fom this game and i hope the players and staff are going into this game with the same mindset,the only player we have to be wary of is Marc Antoine Fortune if we keep him quite we will beat them end of.
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Post by magicmanfuller on Mar 25, 2009 16:40:00 GMT
over confidence my arse its the baggies ffs they are where they are because they are shit , i want 3 points from this game and i hope the players and staff are going into this game with the same mindset,the only player we have to be wary of is marc antoine fortune if we keep him quite we will beat them end of. Fortune? Why? Has he even scored for them yet. I think he will be takin his rightful place in shawcross' pocket
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Post by scfclifer on Mar 25, 2009 16:42:08 GMT
fortune has scored for them and looks a decent player aswell. Similar to our ricci in a lot of ways only not as skillful
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