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Post by Soi Cowboy on Mar 21, 2009 22:44:01 GMT
The old chestnut but can't sleep :-)
3000 away chaps in the corner (temporary stand maybe) and 29K Stokies, when we stay up of course or is the first season a novelty?
Imagine the atmosphere with all 4 sides
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Post by danmase on Mar 21, 2009 22:46:03 GMT
it might be worth putting some temporary seating in the Boothen/jsl corner. i'm not sure about the logistics of it but it would squeeze maybe 500 extra people in and add to the atmosphere.
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Mar 21, 2009 22:49:25 GMT
I think with 27,500 we would probably sell out the home end in about 90% of games next season but with 32,000 we would probably still sell out 60-70%. Its all about capitalizing on the current situation. The good thing at the minute is that we 20,000+ ST holders so very few seats per game for general sale. This means the tickets are like gold dust and keeps peoples interest high as its considered a special thing to be able to get a match day ticket.
I think for the games against Liverpool and Man U we could sell out 50,000
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Post by danmase on Mar 21, 2009 22:51:58 GMT
didn't wolves sneak some temporary seating into their cavernous corners when they were in the prem?
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Mar 21, 2009 22:55:29 GMT
Maybe a slight exaggeration Buxton but perhaps 35-40 if say Boxing Day
Reason asking as think after today we have to start looking to be a Wigan/West Ham etc as am that confident we can get better and better. Maybe too many beers but the strides we are taking are huge. We are better than Newcastle etc who dicked us with 10 men not so long back .
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Mar 21, 2009 22:57:14 GMT
Didn't they have Abdoulaye that day though
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Mar 21, 2009 23:05:43 GMT
We should add it bit by bit. No point adding 10,000 seats now and losing the atmosphere when its not full but add 2-3,000 at a time and when they are filled consistently then add another 2-3,000. It keeps the ground at a right size for the size of the club and keeps the atmosphere and hence the 'new' supporters get hooked on the bearpit experience rather than a lead balloon style atmosphere with a 1/2 empty stadium, where people will become bored with the lack of atmosphere, like in the CCC. Not me I'll be there whatever but this is the reasons given by my brother and a couple of other fair weather fans we have when I asked them why they didnt go that often. Obviously these conversations happenned about 12 months ago. Funny because my brothers only been able to go 1 game, v Sunderland, this season when he never wanted to go last season. Serves him right
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 21, 2009 23:09:10 GMT
I was thinking about what capacity we could get away with. 32,000 is the limit I came to.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Mar 21, 2009 23:10:40 GMT
Absolutely Buxton hence the 32K point.
West Ham did similar now 40 odd K
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Mar 21, 2009 23:18:50 GMT
In 10 years time, with steady progression and good management, we could have a 40,000 stadium and fill it
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 21, 2009 23:23:08 GMT
Give it two more Prem seasons (please!) and we'd do 32,000 easily. PC must be thinking this through now too.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Mar 21, 2009 23:23:29 GMT
Yep I agree with Bayern :-)
Think 32 at the present moment as we still seem to have fans looking for tickets a few days before sold out games
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Post by cantspellwontspell on Mar 21, 2009 23:36:13 GMT
at current pricing yes we could do 32,000 most games in the prem, or we could take the Sunderland approach and have cheap tickets, and probably get closer to 40K
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Post by jarhead on Mar 22, 2009 0:19:54 GMT
Maybe in front of the screen where it has all that sponsorship adverts we could put seats in there and have the seddon stand linking to the stoke fans in the away stand? that would look good and help more noise be generated from that corner?
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Post by march4 on Mar 22, 2009 0:23:28 GMT
Maybe in front of the screen where it has all that sponsorship adverts we could put seats in there and have the seddon stand linking to the stoke fans in the away stand? that would look good and help more noise be generated from that corner? Excellent idea
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Mar 22, 2009 0:26:51 GMT
Yep- could have made the whole corner seated and the screen above but can't see that happening with all the effort to put the big TV there and the foundations etc of late.
That would have been great. Probably a better idea with the car park for away fans etc being where they are
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 22, 2009 0:29:29 GMT
Jarhead I sort of agree but I`d stick the away fans into the scoreboard corner, and around into the section where home fans now sit (giving them the required allocation) and put home fans where the away fans now sit, giving us home support behind both goals and next to the tunnel.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Mar 22, 2009 0:32:43 GMT
I think Jarhead's idea not my first choice but would be more ideal and possible as far as the police/coaches/segregation goes spot on. Where they are they get out (coaches) without passing home fans so to speak. In the corner, away fans would have 5000 odd home fans between them and the exit road.
Think of the police on this one.
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Post by boothenendboy on Mar 22, 2009 0:36:22 GMT
I think we should fill the scoreboard corner and give the away fans the jsl upper or lower.
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Post by jarhead on Mar 22, 2009 0:36:29 GMT
The screen can stay where it is the seating infront of that would not be a problem as its on the steep of the bank which the adverts are covering which would need digging out and concrete foundations to be put in with steel structure pillars in to put the terracing on to screw the extra seats to it. The screen now is on solid foundations and a walk way to either the right hand side or left side of the screen for fans to come in/out would be simple by punching a hole for a turnstile and exit door through the brick wall like they did for the south stand.A bit of planning could see it work or even just temporary seating use could be easier but use red seats unlike man city at main road and gillinghams temp stands where they used green seats ffs which looked stupid is just another option of getting more stokies in the ground.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Mar 22, 2009 0:44:05 GMT
You're talking a 1000 seats at the very most though there fella
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 22, 2009 0:45:38 GMT
Whatever league we're in, in a few seasons it'll be gates of 16,000 again.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 22, 2009 0:46:29 GMT
Does anyone actually know how much these projects actually cost? I`ve read quotes from anything between 3 and 10 million ??
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Post by jarhead on Mar 22, 2009 0:48:50 GMT
I thinks thats the best option now though and yeh another thousand hostile stokies in that area linking the two stands as one would be brilliant surely and take capacity to 28,500 instead of 27,500 now that will do for me cowboy then again if we stay up again next season look into joining the JS to the Boothen and getting even more seats put in say around the 2,000 mark?
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Mar 22, 2009 0:51:50 GMT
Whatever league we're in, in a few seasons it'll be gates of 16,000 again. Not if we do it so that we only go as big as is needed to satisfy demand and therefore keep the place full. That way we keep the atmosphere that gets people gripped
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Post by boothenendboy on Mar 22, 2009 0:52:14 GMT
You're talking a 1000 seats at the very most though there fella more than that, and plus the empty seats in the seat stand.
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Post by jarhead on Mar 22, 2009 0:52:12 GMT
Never bethat much as the modern grounds are ready to build on and to increase capacity now at the Vic i could understand that figure.The one im on about in the corner under the screen could cost what between 350-450k?
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 22, 2009 0:55:25 GMT
If it`s a low cost like that then I can`t see why its not been done already, it would have paid for itself after 5 games.
Linking the JS/and Boothen would cost more though and with investment planned on training grounds, under passes, and team strengthening can`t see it happening for a while yet.
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Post by jarhead on Mar 22, 2009 0:57:55 GMT
Been thinking today for instance stoke should send the tickets off in a way that clubs sell tickets from the tunnell side first then be coming back across towards the segragation side and to the stoke fans and see what they sell by close of buisness on the frida afternoon because like today and v bolton pompey there have been a load of empty seats towards the tunnell side which to me is a waste because if it was the side that was empty next to the stoke fans then we could mesh off that empty block and sell more home tickets???
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Mar 22, 2009 0:59:53 GMT
The segregation downstairs isn't able to do that though
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