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Post by stokey97 on Feb 15, 2009 16:15:40 GMT
fuller is a weirdo he wont play him he will play mama and beattie and camara on the right
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Post by Beardy200 on Feb 15, 2009 16:24:57 GMT
fuller is a weirdo he wont play him he will play mama and beattie and camara on the right I'll be amazed if we see Camara on the right. Have you ever watched a Pulis team play? Beattie and Camara up front. Cresswell on the left and Lawrence on the right much more likely and probably our best bet aswell. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 15, 2009 16:33:29 GMT
I fucking love Dave Kitson.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 14:41:48 GMT
Think Kitson is always going to have Marmite status amongst Stoke fans I think, personally due to him not suiting our game I think he could be our most expensive transfer mistake ever Ironically on the marmite front a certain odour issue ;D I don't see why there's even a debate!! No goals for us and all he's actually done is put glaring opportunities wide...oh no wait!! apparently scoring 12 goals in 2 seasons makes you "A proven Premiership striker" in some people's eyes!!! Yes folks, that's a whole 6 goals a season,not bad for a £5.5 mill rated striker eh???!!!??? Waste of money end of! |
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Feb 16, 2009 14:52:12 GMT
Cresswell vs Kitson debate might be a valid one if we were talking about cresser as one of our strikers (they have both scored 0 goals), but 90% of cresswell's appearances are on the wing.
I keep saying it, but Kitson hardly even seems to get himself in the box when it is appropriate to do so in the last couple of games i've seen him in (liverpool being one i tihnk). Some may interpret that as he can't be bothered, I interpret it that he's so low on confidence he's almost scared of getting a chance cause he may miss it - I saw mama doing this sort of thing the season before last.
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Post by lew86 on Feb 16, 2009 14:52:18 GMT
Im sick of all this "give him a chance" bollocks. he's had his chances and he's pissed each and nearly every one of them up the wall. should be Cameras back up if anything
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 14:53:26 GMT
i don't think we're really in a position to be "giving people a chance" anyway
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 16, 2009 14:58:09 GMT
Does anyone really believe that Richard Cresswell is a better Premiership footballer than Dave Kitson ?
I think some people are trying too hard to be tongue in cheek at times.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 15:04:17 GMT
Does anyone really believe that Richard Cresswell is a better Premiership footballer than Dave Kitson ? I think some people are trying too hard to be tongue in cheek at times. personally i don't rate Cresswell as a Premiership footballer either (although will always be indebted for what he did last season) but having said that i don't see much to show that Kitson is really any better...lazier than Cresswell without a doubt but better? hmmm probably on a par with each other |
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Post by andy9196 on Feb 16, 2009 15:33:59 GMT
Kitson, with liam fro ethers
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Post by n01stokie on Feb 16, 2009 16:00:23 GMT
Think Kitson is always going to have Marmite status amongst Stoke fans I think, personally due to him not suiting our game I think he could be our most expensive transfer mistake ever Ironically on the marmite front a certain odour issue ;D I don't see why there's even a debate!! No goals for us and all he's actually done is put glaring opportunities wide...oh no wait!! apparently scoring 12 goals in 2 seasons makes you "A proven Premiership striker" in some people's eyes!!! Yes folks, that's a whole 6 goals a season,not bad for a £5.5 mill rated striker eh???!!!??? Waste of money end of! he was out injured for nearly the whole 1st season, and then scored 10 goals in a weak reading team that went down, he is a good proven goalscorer, but he just doesn't suit our style of play because we don't get to the byline enough, reading had players who got alot of crosses into the box, we don't thats why he hasn't scored for us |
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Post by Assmaster on Feb 16, 2009 16:05:31 GMT
mickmillslovechild, you are a waste of oxygen and your mission against Kitson as a Stoke player is a disgrace. Get behind your players or eff off to the Vale
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 16:12:30 GMT
I don't see why there's even a debate!! No goals for us and all he's actually done is put glaring opportunities wide...oh no wait!! apparently scoring 12 goals in 2 seasons makes you "A proven Premiership striker" in some people's eyes!!! Yes folks, that's a whole 6 goals a season,not bad for a £5.5 mill rated striker eh???!!!??? Waste of money end of! he was out injured for nearly the whole 1st season, and then scored 10 goals in a weak reading team that went down, he is a good proven goalscorer, but he just doesn't suit our style of play because we don't get to the byline enough, reading had players who got alot of crosses into the box, we don't thats why he hasn't scored for us i'm aware of all that but i'm sorry that does not make you a "proven goalscorer" in the Premiership. i think any premiership side wanting a Premiership quality striker would not be happy with their first team striker scoring ten in a season. and the fact we don't ave players going down the byline is not the reason behind his lack of goals, the fact that he never gets into a position where anyone can cross a ball is the main reason really. the few chances he has had like this he has put wide. it's simple really, i'll agree he makes a very good forward in the Championship but the Premiership is a step up too far for him imo (as it may also be for Fuller,we'll have to wait and see but when he's fit he's FAR more dangerous than Kitson is). To be honest i'd rather see Beattie with Camara or Mama or Fuller and my view is that to spend that amount of money on Kitson when at best he'll be 4th (or 5th bearing in mind Cresswell will alaways get picked right or wrong) choice is a massive waste of money. Only consolation is that we'll probably make the signing on fee back when (and i think it is a when rather than an if) we sell him on, and the rest of the money were all add on's for performance, goals etc. anyway so hopefully we won't be that much out of pocket. Don't get me wrong, he'll make a good striker for someone and score shed loads in the Championship but he'll never be any better than that |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 16:16:41 GMT
mickmillslovechild, you are a waste of oxygen and your mission against Kitson as a Stoke player is a disgrace. Get behind your players or eff off to the Vale you muppet!! that's like saying "Get behind Pericard" if the player never gets a game then i'm hardly usurping the confidence of the player am i? duh! if you don't actually have any reasoned arguments to contradict mine then don't bother wasting any of our oxygen on your chav like insults (by the way you do know what well-reasoned arguments are don't you or do you just shout at other people that can make them due to your own insecurities and inadequacies?) |
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Post by Bick on Feb 16, 2009 16:20:18 GMT
I think (and I prefer) Camara will be the replacement.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 16:20:18 GMT
mickmillslovechild, you are a waste of oxygen and your mission against Kitson as a Stoke player is a disgrace. Get behind your players or eff off to the Vale Re: "Griffin's having a good season .." « Reply #10 on Jan 1, 2009, 3:22pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I suppose that list could also be a testament to exactly how awful some of our other players have been if Griffin is 5th. by the way is this your idea if getting behind your players???  |
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Post by Irish Stokie on Feb 16, 2009 16:23:41 GMT
Glaring misses??? When did that happen, decent chance against Pompey i recall and half chances against the Pool. and since when does 10 gaols in 1 season for a relegated team not make you a proven goalscorer?
The fact of the matter is he isnt the type of player to play the "mama role" but with some wingers who get to the line and whip in a few decent crosses he would thrive and no doubt score goals and lets not forget this is a player who was on the brink of an England call up and to write him of is idiotic to say the least
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Post by Assmaster on Feb 16, 2009 16:29:11 GMT
Definite Vale fan with an insecurity complex.
Give me a shout when you actually produce a well reasoned argument.
'our'? Is that the royal our?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 16:29:54 GMT
brink of an england call up?? oh yeah, this is when titus bramble was in the same position, theo walcott actually was getting called up despite never having made a premiership appearance, andy johnson was being played..basically this was a time when everyone and anyone was at least on the "brink" if they weren't actually picked!
to make this clear, i'm not saying for a second that he's a bad player just that i don't think he is Premiership quality and i don't think there's any doubt that he'll never be a first team regular so on that basis how can it be anything other than a waste of money?
oh and by the way by "half chances" against L'pool , i presume you mean the header from about 3 yds out he missed? half chance? mmmmm....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 16:34:53 GMT
Definite Vale fan with an insecurity complex. Give me a shout when you actually produce a well reasoned argument. 'our'? Is that the royal our? lol coming form someone whose previous posts include describing Camara as someone who coudln't hit a barn door and our players as "awful" By the way i'm yet to see any argument that you've actually come up with after seeing your other posts they just seem to be insults to people and players, at least mine have a modicum of reasoning behind them whether you agree with them or not i.e Irish Stokie disagrees with me (which is kind of the reason for the forum) but he actually gives reasons behind it rather than just shouting insults which is all you seem to actually do on here |
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Post by Irish Stokie on Feb 16, 2009 16:39:30 GMT
3 yards? Spacial awareness obviously isnt your string suit then. Ye that chance was one were he left his marker for dead and was unlucky to glance a header over.
So someone who scores 10 goals in a season for a relegated team isnt a Prem quality player then no??? And as for there being no doubt he will ever be a 1st team regular, well if he plays with wingers he WILL score goals. Beats proved that Ethers will create chances and a decent goal scorer will put them away and Kits IS a proven goalscorer
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 16:44:07 GMT
Irish Stokie the reason i say there's no doubt he'll never be a first team regular is not due to quality or class etc. merely due to the fact the Pulis has bought another two forwards since making Kitson his record signing and failed to play Kitson even when he's fit (for some reason preferring Cresswell which i agree is an error). For whatever reason, i don't see why Pulis would continue to play worse players and buy extra players in his position if he intended to make him a regular. Like i said i think Kitson is a good player, but not the quality that can sustain regular goal scoring in the Prem (and i'm not 100% sure Fuller will be either) and that is the only reason i think it was money wasted, it's actually more of a slur on TP's business sense than it is on Kitson
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Post by Irish Stokie on Feb 16, 2009 16:57:47 GMT
Irish Stokie the reason i say there's no doubt he'll never be a first team regular is not due to quality or class etc. merely due to the fact the Pulis has bought another two forwards since making Kitson his record signing and failed to play Kitson even when he's fit (for some reason preferring Cresswell which i agree is an error). For whatever reason, i don't see why Pulis would continue to play worse players and buy extra players in his position if he intended to make him a regular. Like i said i think Kitson is a good player, but not the quality that can sustain regular goal scoring in the Prem (and i'm not 100% sure Fuller will be either) and that is the only reason i think it was money wasted, it's actually more of a slur on TP's business sense than it is on Kitson Well thats a fair enough point, although i dont agree with you it about Pulis or Kits i certainly do about Cressie. Well i dunno if he will get another chance to play up front but at the moment mama and Fuller are out so he has a decent chance of starting but Etheres missing 3 games wont help his cause. Time will tell |
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Post by Assmaster on Feb 16, 2009 17:03:31 GMT
You have me mixed up with someone else , I've always liked Camara.
You have to be a Vale fan or Hudson in disguise because not one self respecting Stoke fan would take the delight you do in hammering one of our players.
Shouting insults? You are a sensitive soul , how old are you about 12?
Get yourself down Boslem
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2009 9:14:03 GMT
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I think it's time we put bids in for Kevin Doyle and Ebanks Blake.
At least they are playing and scoring unlike the two mentioned above that couldnt hit a cows rectum with a banjo
your post penny!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 17, 2009 11:10:50 GMT
How many minutes has Kits spent on the pitch this season?
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Post by g0b0ks on Feb 17, 2009 11:22:40 GMT
Compare BT's stats to Kits'!!! In 4 games he has had more shots and twice as many on goal. Then look at Olly's stats! Based on these stats I'd rather have him up front than Kitson. |
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Post by Assmaster on Feb 17, 2009 12:03:23 GMT
That thread was a joke that backfired on me , I should have known better.
Neither Camara nor Harewood were our player when that thread was going though, unlike Kitson who IS ours
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Post by MrMagic on Feb 17, 2009 12:28:52 GMT
Cressy and Mama to start for me.
Portsmouth are a tremendous football club and we will need to show them lots of respect and keep it tight.
Hopefully we will only be one or two down by 65 minutes, and this is the time to bring on either Beattie or Kitson, and move Cressy to the wing, where he is most effective.
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Post by basingstokie on Feb 17, 2009 13:15:35 GMT
Kits and BT for me to be honest, mind I'd like to see this with Ethers playing but thats not gonna happen. I'd go with that, I'm not Kitty's biggest fan, but IMO Beattie's physical presence and Kitty's fox in box style could work. This would have to be his last chance, say 3 games in this style, if he doesn't pull his socks up then I will come to Stoke and ram it up his arse Pulis will of course go with Mama (who I rate, but BT is better) and Pericard, Cresswell and Delap on the wings as his first choice |
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