clan2
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Post by clan2 on Feb 1, 2009 19:21:15 GMT
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 1, 2009 19:28:54 GMT
Spot on TP, Alex Ferguson just turns up on 2 hours before kick off, picks a side and out they go and win 10 titles. No work is put into players at all.
Horse shit of the highest order. I hope for his own sake Pulis doesn't get a high profile job - the level of expectation wouldn't see him in the job for 5 minutes.
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Post by whelan_6 on Feb 1, 2009 19:29:10 GMT
talking sense.
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Post by march4 on Feb 1, 2009 19:29:46 GMT
And TP is spot.
Anyone think the Spanish Waiter would have saved our club from the shambles that was heading for the Third Division, then got us promotion and is now plotting a course to keep us up. How about the Brazilian bloke? Ferguson or Wenger earlier in their careers possibly.
There is no chance that Adams, Hughes, Ince, Keane, Robson et al would have done anything for us. How about Ramos or Southgate? No. Zola? No
TP is a good manager for our type of football club and still the deluded moan about him.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 1, 2009 19:31:54 GMT
And TP is spot. Anyone think the Spanish Waiter would have saved our club from the shambles that was heading for the Third Division, then got us promotion and is now plotting a course to keep us up. How about the Brazilian bloke? Ferguson or Wenger earlier in their careers possibly. There is no chance that Adams, Hughes, Ince, Keane, Robson et al would have done anything for us. How about Ramos or Southgate? No. Zola? No TP is a good manager for our type of football club and still the deluded moan about him. Hypothetical claptrap from the rose tinted spectacled brigade. Deluded - Jesus H Christ on a bike - pot calling kettle and all that. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 19:33:43 GMT
Pugsley you really do have a personal vendetta against Pulis,every chance to disagree with anything he says or does.Its become quite comical to be honest.
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Post by ohcityweloveyou on Feb 1, 2009 19:34:11 GMT
plotting every tactical aspect to get the best out of his players ??? we only have tactic plan A |
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 1, 2009 19:36:52 GMT
Pugsley you really do have a personal vendetta against Pulis,every chance to disagree with anything he says or does.Its become quite comical to be honest. As comical as listing 10 managers who DEFINITELY would not have done a better job than Pulis? I don't like the Manager that is true, but this constant stream of drivel ex-halting him as some kind of Shankleyesque footballing God is quite frankly embarrassing. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 19:38:36 GMT
I like TP and think he's doing a good job overall, but I wish he wouldn't come out with stuff like this, which is a little bit embarrassing.
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Post by AlliG on Feb 1, 2009 19:40:00 GMT
I notice our tame Manure fan has come flying out of the closet at the merest hint of less than hero worship of his beloved Sir Alex.  |
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Post by DodgyDino on Feb 1, 2009 19:42:34 GMT
Spot on TP, Alex Ferguson just turns up on 2 hours before kick off, picks a side and out they go and win 10 titles. No work is put into players at all. Horse shit of the highest order. I hope for his own sake Pulis doesn't get a high profile job - the level of expectation wouldn't see him in the job for 5 minutes. What hes basically saying is that its easier because of the quality of player top managers work with. I think hes right in what he says. |
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 1, 2009 19:42:53 GMT
I like TP and think he's doing a good job overall, but I wish he wouldn't come out with stuff like this, which is a little bit embarrassing. Hallelujah, sense at last. |
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Post by Chrissyd33 on Feb 1, 2009 19:45:00 GMT
tactical plan A worked against citeh though so i dont mind just hope when fergie reties they dont nick our tp ;  |
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 1, 2009 19:45:47 GMT
tactical plan A worked against citeh though so i dont mind just hope when fergie reties they dont nick our tp ; And they call me comical. |
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Post by bogus on Feb 1, 2009 19:48:16 GMT
Spot on TP, Alex Ferguson just turns up on 2 hours before kick off, picks a side and out they go and win 10 titles. No work is put into players at all. Horse shit of the highest order. I hope for his own sake Pulis doesn't get a high profile job - the level of expectation wouldn't see him in the job for 5 minutes. What hes basically saying is that its easier because of the quality of player top managers work with. I think hes right in what he says. You're right, Dino. That's basically all he is saying. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 19:50:27 GMT
Spot on TP, Alex Ferguson just turns up on 2 hours before kick off, picks a side and out they go and win 10 titles. No work is put into players at all. Horse shit of the highest order. I hope for his own sake Pulis doesn't get a high profile job - the level of expectation wouldn't see him in the job for 5 minutes. What hes basically saying is that its easier because of the quality of player top managers work with. I think hes right in what he says. It's all relative though isn't it? Yes, it's easier to stay up or finish in the top half, that much is obvious, but managing a top club brings different challenges, such as challenging for the title, Europe etc. It's hardly a piece of piss. |
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 1, 2009 19:51:04 GMT
What hes basically saying is that its easier because of the quality of player top managers work with. I think hes right in what he says. You're right, Dino. That's basically all he is saying. That is what he is saying and it's horse shit. Tony Pulis does not have and will never have a clue what it is like to manage a Manchester United, Liverpool etc. Good players or not they are tough jobs with a massive level of expectation. Plenty have failed, plenty a lot better than Pulis. |
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Post by headsgoup on Feb 1, 2009 19:53:33 GMT
He's bang on the money although I would be more inclined that the coaches of the 'big four' do the donkey work, not the managers.
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Post by DodgyDino on Feb 1, 2009 19:53:45 GMT
What hes basically saying is that its easier because of the quality of player top managers work with. I think hes right in what he says. It's all relative though isn't it? Yes, it's easier to stay up or finish in the top half, that much is obvious, but managing a top club brings different challenges, such as challenging for the title, Europe etc. It's hardly a piece of piss. Not saying it is, Every job brings different challenges but if i were a manager i know which end of the table i would rather manage a team |
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Post by headsgoup on Feb 1, 2009 19:56:01 GMT
You're right, Dino. That's basically all he is saying. That is what he is saying and it's horse shit. Tony Pulis does not have and will never have a clue what it is like to manage a Manchester United, Liverpool etc. Good players or not they are tough jobs with a massive level of expectation. Plenty have failed, plenty a lot better than Pulis. Mark Hughes? |
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Post by bogus on Feb 1, 2009 20:00:12 GMT
You're right, Dino. That's basically all he is saying. That is what he is saying and it's horse shit. Tony Pulis does not have and will never have a clue what it is like to manage a Manchester United, Liverpool etc. Good players or not they are tough jobs with a massive level of expectation. Plenty have failed, plenty a lot better than Pulis. Players of a higher ability need less coaching to get them to do what you want to do............they're just simply better at it as they have the skills. Have you noticed how James Beattie is already better at scoring goals than Mama, Vince and Cressie. Have you noticed how Etherington is better at flying down the wings than those we've previously tried. Is that down to TP's better coaching??.......or are you going to give the players the credit for that, like you usually would for our successes?? Of course there are greater expectations, which I assume is why he says they have to entertain (man manage) their players. |
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 1, 2009 20:00:24 GMT
That is what he is saying and it's horse shit. Tony Pulis does not have and will never have a clue what it is like to manage a Manchester United, Liverpool etc. Good players or not they are tough jobs with a massive level of expectation. Plenty have failed, plenty a lot better than Pulis. Mark Hughes? So what's your point Alan? Please don't say you think Hughes is poor manager. I know you know fuck all about football but for Gods sake. |
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Post by powchirper on Feb 1, 2009 20:01:47 GMT
The only thing embarrassing is some of the shit written in this thread, of course moaning twats like Pugsley can do a much better job than TP, the only thing that confuses me is wtf they're doing on here and not managing Stoke or another team in the prem.
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 1, 2009 20:01:48 GMT
And TP is spot. Anyone think the Spanish Waiter would have saved our club from the shambles that was heading for the Third Division, then got us promotion and is now plotting a course to keep us up. How about the Brazilian bloke? Ferguson or Wenger earlier in their careers possibly. There is no chance that Adams, Hughes, Ince, Keane, Robson et al would have done anything for us. How about Ramos or Southgate? No. Zola? No TP is a good manager for our type of football club and still the deluded moan about him. Our type of football is down to Pulis you make it sound like we brought him in to carry on a tradition when the reality is we were the same as most other clubs in our situation. The football we play is because of Pulis not in spite of him!!!!!!!!!1 |
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 1, 2009 20:03:08 GMT
That is what he is saying and it's horse shit. Tony Pulis does not have and will never have a clue what it is like to manage a Manchester United, Liverpool etc. Good players or not they are tough jobs with a massive level of expectation. Plenty have failed, plenty a lot better than Pulis. Players of a higher ability need less coaching to get them to do what you want to do............they're just simply better at it as they have the skills. Have you noticed how James Beattie is already better at scoring goals than Mama, Vince and Cressie. Have you noticed how Etherington is better at flying down the wings than those we've previously tried. Is that down to TP's better coaching??.......or are you going to give the players the credit for that, like you usually would for our successes?? Of course there are greater expectations, which I assume is why he says they have to entertain (man manage) their players. I give Pulis credit for identifying decent players and playing them in the right position no doubt. Something he has struggled to do all season. Management is about a lot of things, including getting the best out of your players no matter what the ability. There are plenty of Managers with good players on paper but produce average performances. To say managing a big club is a doddle is a joke. The only thing embarrassing is some of the shit written in this thread, of course moaning twats like Pugsley can do a much better job than TP, the only thing that confuses me is wtf they're doing on here and not managing Stoke or another team in the prem. Of course average Managers like Pulis can do a much better job than Fergie, the only thing that confuses me is wtf they're on the dole for and not Managing Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea in the Prem. |
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Post by headsgoup on Feb 1, 2009 20:07:20 GMT
So what's your point Alan? Please don't say you think Hughes is poor manager. I know you know fuck all about football but for Gods sake. Point is you'd be moaning your bag off more if you were a city supporter wouldn't you! Hughes is a fucking laughing stock! The Kaka/Robinho sagas proved this. Just get realistic. We operate on a fraction of the budget of the big four and there are at least 6 with a substansially bigger player budget. What the fuckin' hell do you want! TP is doing a great job! |
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Post by luke2u on Feb 1, 2009 20:09:16 GMT
He would have one hell of a job kicking all the foreign players out. ;D
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Post by nathan on Feb 1, 2009 20:12:00 GMT
Personally, I think the title of the article is a load of utter bollocks.
I think the point Pulis is trying to convey (and his words have been twisted somewhat) is that lower down, there's greater emphasis on organisation and the unfashionable side to the game.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 1, 2009 20:17:22 GMT
So what's your point Alan? Please don't say you think Hughes is poor manager. I know you know fuck all about football but for Gods sake. Point is you'd be moaning your bag off more if you were a city supporter wouldn't you! Hughes is a fucking laughing stock! The Kaka/Robinho sagas proved this. Just get realistic. We operate on a fraction of the budget of the big four and there are at least 6 with a substansially bigger player budget. What the fuckin' hell do you want! TP is doing a great job! I would walk over hot coals to have Mark Hughes as Stoke manager. He's a tremendous Manager who is getting caught up in politics at City. His record at Blackburn was excellent. What do I want - for the manager to do an even better job by picking the correct players in there right positions, to win an away game and to play football like we saw for a period yesterday and not hoofball. |
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Post by headsgoup on Feb 1, 2009 20:19:31 GMT
Point is you'd be moaning your bag off more if you were a city supporter wouldn't you! Hughes is a fucking laughing stock! The Kaka/Robinho sagas proved this. Just get realistic. We operate on a fraction of the budget of the big four and there are at least 6 with a substansially bigger player budget. What the fuckin' hell do you want! TP is doing a great job! I would walk over hot coals to have Mark Hughes as Stoke manager. Now I know you're talking tripe. ;D The day after we beat Man City and their star studded team with ten men you come on here and post your anti pulis shit just gets my back up. If you don't like it why not go up the vale to see what you get for your money? You party pooper you. |
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