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Post by altair on Jan 3, 2009 19:17:12 GMT
Because we play a type of football, and I use that word with caution here, that is completely and utterly at odds with the object of scoring goals. Our principal weapon is a long throw in. We have no pace in the team so counter-attacking is a non-starter. The midfield is deliberately held back to form the defensive 8 that is leaking goals. You can go on and on. And still people here believe that the Manager should be immune from criticism. Take a look at Charlton Athletic my friends. Pulis could be pissing away the biggest windfall in Stoke's history.
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Post by tony harrison on Jan 3, 2009 19:58:34 GMT
without fullers goal presence, or mama's occasional goal, we have nothing. We really need goal hungry strikers, and fast. We had Thorne, Steino, Biggins, Sheron and Ritchie in our past, all of whom were good to watch and scored many goals for Stoke City. Now be honest, how many goals would these same players have scored playing in a Tony Pulis team ? I suspect not nearly as many as they did score. The problem lies with the team selection and how they are expected to play the game. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 3, 2009 20:01:27 GMT
no creativity, even less today with whelan soares and tonge in the side against a piss poor league one outfuit
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 20:24:56 GMT
somebody mentioned master tactician on this message.tony pulis is defo not that.we are going straight back down end of.we are trying to play in the prem with championship players, it won't work.
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Post by PMac on Jan 3, 2009 20:29:40 GMT
2 very simple reasons.
1 (As I stated about 12 weeks ago) Teams work us out far to easily because we only have a few methods we use. Throw ins, Set pieces and lumping it forward.
2) We have absolutely no idea how to run with the ball into a threatening position and have players positioned in areas from where they can shoot.
If option 2 is attempted and fails due to lack of player support, option 1 is resumed whereby teams can work us out and stop it happening.
It's that simple, yet the people that matter don't know.
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Post by johnfarmersmum on Jan 4, 2009 0:01:05 GMT
Pmac..spot on
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Post by banburypotter on Jan 4, 2009 0:04:25 GMT
because we play not to lose, not play to win
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Post by johnfarmersmum on Jan 4, 2009 0:07:41 GMT
agreed Banbury...too many players too similar... after 30 years this has to be most unexciting team in that time
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Post by pushon on Jan 4, 2009 0:53:48 GMT
Because we play percentage football, get the ball into "the mixer" enough times, to big powerful players and we'll score. Trouble is we don't flood the box.
Keep your defensive minded midfielders close to your "good headers" defenders and force the ball out wide when they have posession and you won't concede.
The problem is,that this plan was sussed 30 years ago, and that's when T.P learned his tactics, and as we know, he aint half stubborn.
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Post by pez75 on Jan 4, 2009 9:04:41 GMT
because our manager and the majority of his players are shit.
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Post by ashbournepotter on Jan 4, 2009 9:18:39 GMT
three words - tony fucking pulis
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Post by stokie63 on Jan 4, 2009 9:32:06 GMT
we dont score goals simple no creativity in the side no speedy wingers who can cross a ball to many defensive midfielders and no attacking full backs and people playing in positions they are not comfy with tones had a long time to solve these problems and i aint got much confidence that he will solve them.
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