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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 2, 2009 19:10:54 GMT
Yeh. Last caller. Tosser. Fancy having a different opinion to these Fuller rimmers. Good man. 27 posts. Were the first 20 posts when we got promoted? Thought not.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 2, 2009 19:12:46 GMT
Well done Tony - bang on
No one a 'Pulis Rimmer' - They just want to see things move forward and dont feel the the need for a public lynching (and by the way I went to West Ham probably unlike you)
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Post by steinosjockstrap on Jan 2, 2009 19:13:27 GMT
Just caught some of the comments on Fuller/Griffin incident.Now i've had bust up's at work,which i presume everyone has at some point,but they are soon forgotten.I think this little episode is now going a little bit OTT
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Post by Davef on Jan 2, 2009 19:14:32 GMT
www.whydelilah.co.uk/news/02_Jan_2009/Firebrand+Fuller+has+to+make+amends.htmlPretty good piece here by the Sentinel sports editor Keith Wales. Calls for Fuller to be sacked are ridiculous, but he HAS to improve his discipline. By my reckoning he's been lucky not to have received three straight red cards this season even before the West Ham incident. On his day he's a great player for us, but he's no use to us sat in the stand.
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Post by breretonbert on Jan 2, 2009 19:17:03 GMT
My point is, Fuller is a liability. He is brilliant when he wants to be, but his petulance and his attitude in general is shite. How often are we without him re his Jamaica trips, his suspensions through relly stupid bookings and now this latest sending off for snotting the team captain? Just my opinion like, and sorry it differs from tose who abuse me for my opinion.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2009 19:19:48 GMT
www.whydelilah.co.uk/news/02_Jan_2009/Firebrand+Fuller+has+to+make+amends.htmlPretty good piece here by the Sentinel sports editor Keith Wales. Calls for Fuller to be sacked are ridiculous, but he HAS to improve his discipline. By my reckoning he's been lucky not to have received three straight red cards this season even before the West Ham incident. On his day he's a great player for us, but he's no use to us sat in the stand. The whole team need to improve their discipline. Its been a problem now for the last few seasons and TP needs to sort it. Fuller is one of many that get stupid bookings for stupid things. Lawrence, Cresswell, Shawcross and Griff all get stupid bookings for daft tackles or mouthing off. It needs to stop and should have been nipped in the bud sooner. When were these 3 occasions Dave?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2009 19:21:19 GMT
I was just trying to remember the 3 occasions and came up with Middlesboro and Liverpool away and Fulham home?
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Post by dazthestokie69 on Jan 2, 2009 19:22:47 GMT
i didnt listen o praise and grumble but i can guess what was said towards the Fuller slap Personally i dont want to see Fuller leave but the blokes stepped over the mark. How do you deal with him?? He keeps getting away with things like this over and over again and he doesnt learn. Yeah he said sorry but by the way he said Griff said something to provoke me proves you knew it wasnt meant from the heart and you can feel that he doesnt think he's over stepped the mark as much as he actually did...so the bloke hasnt learned anything. He must of said someting to Griff for him to ave a go to start with. Anyway all thats been said a million times already. Simply question is people like him dont learn because he always gets away with it, so how do we make sure his dodgy attitude every day stops? His stolling back from the opponents penno area with his hands on his hips is one thing. Slapping your own player is another. I honstly thought he'd learned is lesson a few seasons ago when he was missing more games that he played because of bans but he's slipping back into his old arrogant ways so how do we stop it?
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Post by Davef on Jan 2, 2009 19:24:15 GMT
When were these 3 occasions Dave? I thought he was very lucky not to get a straight red at Liverpool, he could easily have gone for his challenge on Bramble at Wigan and despite Pantsil's theatrics he shouldn't have got involved and could easily have walked on another day.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2009 19:26:51 GMT
I agree about the Pantsil one! He was daft but luckily the ref went the common sense approach and didn't book him. I think the same could have been done for the Griff incident. It was stupid but I still don't think it was a sending off. Hopefully this might make him realise what an idiot he has been and he may change. We need to stop getting silly bookings in general though. We are an indisciplined rabble.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 2, 2009 19:32:43 GMT
My point is, Fuller is a liability. He is brilliant when he wants to be, but his petulance and his attitude in general is shite. How often are we without him re his Jamaica trips, his suspensions through relly stupid bookings and now this latest sending off for snotting the team captain? Just my opinion like, and sorry it differs from tose who abuse me for my opinion. People are not abusing you because you have an opinion. Its because your opinion is wrong.
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Post by bogus on Jan 2, 2009 19:53:20 GMT
Stoke City, as a natural course of progression, should be looking for forwards equal to and better than Ricardo Fuller. He is not irreplaceable, but at the moment he is far too important a player for us.
He should not be sold unless this is achieved. He needs to get his act in order, knuckle down and do what he does best, play football, but without the hissy fits.
If it is achieved and we do find adequate substitutes, which you could argue we should have had by now, then it will not be an issue at all.
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Post by powchirper on Jan 2, 2009 21:12:30 GMT
The two hours of northern soul straight after P + G was far more enjoyable than all this sack Fuller bollox that was so obviously Fail muppets ringing/texting the show.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 2, 2009 21:37:27 GMT
When were these 3 occasions Dave? I thought he was very lucky not to get a straight red at Liverpool, he could easily have gone for his challenge on Bramble at Wigan and despite Pantsil's theatrics he shouldn't have got involved and could easily have walked on another day. I think the perceived injustice in these events gets to him. If I remember rightly, at Liverpool Charagher performed a pretty bad tackle on Fuller so Fuller ran after him and gave him a kicking and Pantsil was messing about so he went over to sort things out, getting sucked into an incident. It's a childish attitude, though.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 2, 2009 23:04:04 GMT
My point is, Fuller is a liability. He is brilliant when he wants to be, but his petulance and his attitude in general is shite. How often are we without him re his Jamaica trips, his suspensions through relly stupid bookings and now this latest sending off for snotting the team captain? Just my opinion like, and sorry it differs from tose who abuse me for my opinion. Yeah and hed be serving his time with Rooney and Ronaldo if the playing field was level
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