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Post by millermay1968 on Nov 17, 2008 11:11:10 GMT
Tony pullis has done a great job getting us where we are but like many others im not a fan.He has very little idea how modern football should be played as his methods belong in the eighties and his continuation to be stubbon is frustrating to say the least.Now before you start banging on its got fuck all to do with saturday but in reality we have a decent squad and would have a very decent first team if he were to realise we actually have footballers in the squad,ie whelan kitson soares and tongue,we survived playing crap football last year but gave us great results and got us where we are now but to consistently stick with certain players who we all know are championship level at best and keep the the players who can actually play on the bench or even worst still out of the squad is mind blowing.Im not saying he should be sacked because we are in quite a healthy position but i cant see the bloke changing his way of playing football any time soon,as my heading states if pulis were to go who,s his replacement?
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Post by PONTAFCE on Nov 17, 2008 11:14:55 GMT
You sound like you know what team wants maybe yourself mate
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2008 11:23:19 GMT
Tony pullis has done a great job getting us where we are but like many others im not a fan.He has very little idea how modern football should be played as his methods belong in the eighties and his continuation to be stubbon is frustrating to say the least.Now before you start banging on its got fuck all to do with saturday but in reality we have a decent squad and would have a very decent first team if he were to realise we actually have footballers in the squad,ie whelan kitson soares and tongue,we survived playing crap football last year but gave us great results and got us where we are now but to consistently stick with certain players who we all know are championship level at best and keep the the players who can actually play on the bench or even worst still out of the squad is mind blowing.Im not saying he should be sacked because we are in quite a healthy position but i cant see the bloke changing his way of playing football any time soon,as my heading states if pulis were to go who,s his replacement? It wasn't so much that we "survived" playing football last year as it was "got us promoted as one of the highest scorers in the division". Our home record so far is pretty damn good. For someone who's "got very little idea how modern football should be played" he seems to have done pretty well so far.
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Post by millermay1968 on Nov 17, 2008 11:24:18 GMT
does,nt make sence mate ;D
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Post by luke45 on Nov 17, 2008 11:28:50 GMT
Can't understand why you would even so much as suggest who would replace him.......
He's took us up on a budget far less competitive than others, and we sit 15th in the league, having enjoyed victorys against the likes of Arsenal, what more do you want from the guy?
As stated above for someone with 'very little idea of how modern football should be played' he's certainly not done too bad so far.
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Nov 17, 2008 11:28:58 GMT
To be honest miller i don't agree with this post but i suppose thats what the message board is for, for everyone to express an opinion and i am replying so somethings working, but as i say its this sort of negativity which i don't agree with. If you remember TP did miss out on players during the transfer window which would have enhanced the squad which we have at present which may be the reason players have to be played out of position. From the games i've seen so far, all but 2, we have played some cracking football so far away from the "eighties football" as you describe its unbelievable. Did you go to the recent Rotherham game ? ...to me that was the football we played last season, with last seasons squad which is far different to our Premiership side. It seems to me that you still have your "pulis hating glasses" still on, why not take the glasses off, give em a wipe, wait till after the january transfer window, let him complete the squad then make your assumptions after that.
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Post by johnnyrotten on Nov 17, 2008 11:29:34 GMT
Just the latest in a long line of drivel posted by millermay. "sence",says it all really
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Post by mozzer68 on Nov 17, 2008 11:36:02 GMT
Yes we have done ok so far, but the season is far from over. I understand what millermay is saying, when teams suss us out what are we going to rely on when results don't go our way. There are some good footballers here who can't get a game or at least a good run in the side. I don't want Tony to leave but his stubborn ways are frustrating
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 17, 2008 11:39:59 GMT
Maybe Millermsy would like the answer to his question to be either A) Kevin Keegan B) Roberto Martinez C) Arsene Wenger
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 17, 2008 11:46:08 GMT
Perhapswe should go for Newall, Dowie or even Sinnott
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Post by vodkastoke on Nov 17, 2008 11:49:28 GMT
Maybe Millermsy would like the answer to his question to be either A) Kevin Keegan B) Roberto Martinez C) Arsene Wenger Martinez is the best manager outside the prem imo
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Post by millermay1968 on Nov 17, 2008 11:49:56 GMT
Fuck me keep yer hat on,as i stated i think he has done a good job what pisses me off is i like to see good football which if we did,nt have the players who are could deliver i could understand but we do and with pulis being stubbon we see the likes of cresswell playing instead of others who are far more able.As others have posted in previous posts we need to change against the baggies or we,ll get turned over and as for hull.......Oh and by the way ive wiped my glasses as well as my arse and my opinion has,nt changed
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 17, 2008 11:52:36 GMT
Maybe Millermsy would like the answer to his question to be either A) Kevin Keegan B) Roberto Martinez C) Arsene Wenger Martinez is the best manager outside the prem imo Yeah I wasn't saying he was no good I just put the first 3 managers who put the emphasise on good football that came into my head.
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Post by millermay1968 on Nov 17, 2008 11:55:01 GMT
There is al ot of good managers out of work but ive not said he should be sacked,im just more critical of his stubboness,but if there was one person i would like to see which would be none of the above,would be bryan robson
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Post by vodkastoke on Nov 17, 2008 11:57:05 GMT
There is al ot of good managers out of work but ive not said he should be sacked,im just more critical of his stubboness,but if there was one person i would like to see which would be none of the above,would be bryan robsonYou're taking the piss you are ;D If you're being serious then you are a deluded twat
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Post by Hiram on Nov 17, 2008 11:57:23 GMT
Bryan Robson is possibly the worst manager in the country
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2008 11:57:46 GMT
We'll be at home against the Baggies though, and against Hull, and therefore in a position to be more open.
Sorry but staying up is of far more importance than playing good football, for this season at least.
Out of interest millermay, who would you like to see as manager? EDIT: Bryan Robson? Jesus, I think we can end the discussion there mate.
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Post by miltonstokie on Nov 17, 2008 12:04:07 GMT
Bryan Robson ? You cant be serious
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Post by wardrobe monster on Nov 17, 2008 12:04:55 GMT
Can admin delete this bollocks?
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Post by ted1965 on Nov 17, 2008 12:09:56 GMT
I am sorry but any answer to the question who would you like as a manager and the answer is Bryan Robson it totally ends the debate. The only supporters who would be delighted if we ever appointed Robson as manager of Stoke would be the other relegation candidates and the likes of Vale and Crewe it’s like being asked how would you like to be executed hanging or electric chair either way you end up dead.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 17, 2008 12:17:41 GMT
I'd rather have Linda Robson as manager, she'd have more of a clue
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Nov 17, 2008 12:21:33 GMT
I think TP will be and should be in charge for the rest of this season at least. But one thing did occur to me over the weekend (nothing to do with Saturday's result by the way). I was comparing Hull's performance against ours and also the way TP approaches the Prem in general. I think getting Stoke where they are is probably the peak of TP's career - he's enjoying where we are and at times is maybe a little too respectful of the big boys.
Fair enough to that I say, but when you see how Phil Brown comes across in the media, it's pretty obvious he has his eye on bigger fish and will move to a bigger challenge sooner than later. There just seems to be that little bit more guile and hunger in PB's eyes that's all - and maybe that comes across on the pitch.
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Post by growler on Nov 17, 2008 12:22:25 GMT
While I also doubt Pulis's talents, I would rather watch him play 9 defenders plus Sidibe than have Bryan Robson anywhere near the manager's chair at my football club.
B Robson - the worst manager since Alan Ball.
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Nov 17, 2008 12:37:17 GMT
I think TP will be and should be in charge for the rest of this season at least. But one thing did occur to me over the weekend (nothing to do with Saturday's result by the way). I was comparing Hull's performance against ours and also the way TP approaches the Prem in general. I think getting Stoke where they are is probably the peak of TP's career - he's enjoying where we are and at times is maybe a little too respectful of the big boys. Fair enough to that I say, but when you see how Phil Brown comes across in the media, it's pretty obvious he has his eye on bigger fish and will move to a bigger challenge sooner than later. There just seems to be that little bit more guile and hunger in PB's eyes that's all - and maybe that comes across on the pitch. are you trying to say Stoke ?
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Post by johnnyrotten on Nov 17, 2008 12:55:52 GMT
Bryan Robson? As i pointed out earlier in the thread this guy posts absolute drivel
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Post by st3mark on Nov 17, 2008 12:56:35 GMT
Dean Glover
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 17, 2008 13:13:38 GMT
Come on lads. Surely you have worked out by now that ANYONE who proposes Bryan Robson as manager is on a wind up. ;D
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Post by lordb on Nov 17, 2008 13:14:44 GMT
as someone who doesnt worship the ground TP walks on I've got to say that the manager deserves to stay in the job for a long time now.
PC isnt going to get rid of TP anyway.
the next manager is years down the road
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Post by Danstoke82 on Nov 17, 2008 13:18:42 GMT
What a load of bollocks, this must be a wind-up, Bryan Robson?!
Enough of that crap. Pulis should never leave unless we fall out of the league. Ok, his tactics can sometimes be questionable and yes, he can be a stubborn bastard at some points, but he is the best man for the job IMO. He has control of the dressing room and the entire squad respect him and so do the fans, well most of us.
God bless ya Sir Tone, you have made me a very happy Stokie just to see my beloved Potters play top flight football. Long may it continue.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 17, 2008 13:30:34 GMT
Sorry but staying up is of far more importance than playing good football, for this season at least. Some might say that the only way we will stay up is to start playing some football. Our away form and mentality is a real worry.
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