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Post by werrington on Oct 31, 2008 19:14:57 GMT
I am not a fan of the multi buy system but if im honest i dont think Tottenham would of sold out and the Sunderland game would never have got nearly 27;000 without it? Just my thoughts for what they are worth
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Oct 31, 2008 19:19:03 GMT
So i need an excuse for not going. What a load of crap, i did my time in the 80's and 90's when hardly anyone gave a shit about stoke. I'd love to go every week but i'm now trying to support a family in these times of hardship. I go when i can no matter if we are playing arsenal or aldershot. There will be a lot of people who went regular in the old days who are the same as me. But we all love stoke with every breath like the people who go every game.
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Post by scfclifer on Oct 31, 2008 19:21:55 GMT
So i need an excuse for not going. What a load of crap, i did my time in the 80's and 90's when hardly anyone gave a shit about stoke. I'd love to go every week but i'm now trying to support a family in these times of hardship. I go when i can no matter if we are playing arsenal or aldershot. There will be a lot of people who went regular in the old days who are the same as me. But we all love stoke with every breath like the people who go every game. well said
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Post by jay1610 on Oct 31, 2008 19:27:31 GMT
If you can't go to the hull game or can't afford to stump up the cash for both in one go then the club should offer some compromise in this situation. This system is completely subjective and rules out some people who rarely miss a game possibly more often than the glory hunters it is aimed at stopping.
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Post by stokemark on Oct 31, 2008 19:50:02 GMT
My point exactly lifer the thing is when these fly by night supporters have gone back to the potteries shopping centre on a Saturday Mr Scholes will suddenly realise it is the real fans who keep this club going Well it certainly isnt you and Lifer is it Lomack ? I really respect that people conna afford to go, I really do but how can you then claim to be better supporters when you onna going against Arsenal !!!!!
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Post by Block 26 on Oct 31, 2008 19:58:01 GMT
should just get a ST
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Post by lommack on Oct 31, 2008 20:26:28 GMT
Stokemark
There really is no use knocking when there is no one in is there
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Post by Fred Ferret on Oct 31, 2008 20:33:35 GMT
Stokemark There really is no use knocking when there is no one in is there Have chip on shoulder - so must slag off fellow Stokies, lowmack? Why? What's the point?
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Post by daverichards on Oct 31, 2008 20:35:28 GMT
should just get a ST my thoughts exactly £344 mine cost, works out at £18.10 a game , and I onna bothered if I miss the odd midweek game as I'm still quids up and guaranteed my seat for EVERY game
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Post by lommack on Oct 31, 2008 20:39:08 GMT
so you have just done what you were condemning not 2 milliseconds after writing it.
Genius
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Post by lommack on Oct 31, 2008 20:50:32 GMT
Ilford Dave
I am overjoyed for you that you can afford £344 your mother must be very proud
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Post by Fred Ferret on Oct 31, 2008 20:58:28 GMT
LOL - now that must have been freudian on my part (I assume you refer to my mispelling of your monica).
Actually, on reflection, I can't make up my mind which is more appropriate but if the cap fits.
I see, in your latest post, you have bestowed your sarcastic joy on some else.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Oct 31, 2008 21:00:31 GMT
I am not a fan of the multi buy system but if im honest i dont think Tottenham would of sold out and the Sunderland game would never have got nearly 27;000 without it? Just my thoughts for what they are worth The whole point is that there has to be some system. If it was a free for all you'd have daddy with his Arsenal fan sons all over the ticket office and genuine Stoke fans, who perhaps can't take half a day off work to queue for a ticket would miss out. All this I'm a better fan than you is bollox. For those that cannot afford then I feel for you but this is what comes with success. Ilford makes a very good point in saying that a season ticket prior to promotion being secured would have saved a bundle on match prices and it could have been paid for monthly.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Oct 31, 2008 21:15:26 GMT
Don't you just love these individuals who declare themselves as real fans and superior to others? FFS 3 rd home game in 2 weeks and I suppose In thecurrent climate and the multi buy is a bit too much for some. If you have kids etc a real bit of cash to shell out.
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Post by hiyadad on Oct 31, 2008 21:20:37 GMT
Ilford Dave I am overjoyed for you that you can afford £344 your mother must be very proud hear, hear. some of us on here cant afford £3.44, nevermind £344! if people cant afford £60 odd quid, how can you expect them to find nearly £350!! i was made redundent this summer. my son was made redundent 6wks ago.the number of home matches that i've missed before this you could count on one hand. people around this area are been layed off on a weekly basis.now, i have to answer to fellow stokies and explain why i'm not going tomorrow!! I'M NOT GOING CUS IM FOOKING SKINT!!! sorry for shouting, but if i had known that it was that important to some people, i would have asked them to buy me a ticket.
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Post by lommack on Oct 31, 2008 21:23:02 GMT
But is it the right system, does it actually stop glory hunting fans and the odd away fan from sitting in the home end, in my opinion it is a system that opitimises the very soul of the premier league which as we all know is greed.
So there are fans who can't afford £344 in one go or a guaranteed £30 odd a month. There are certainly fans who can't afford £64 for 2 tickets in a week, do you think these are the type of fan that are wanted in the premier league, is it bollox, they want the fan who can afford inflated ticket prices and over the top merchandising. The trouble with this type of fan is that at the first sign of a down turn in form little Tarquin will want and go and watch something else and daddy will take his wallet with him.
The saddest part of this thread is how quickly we have fallen into being "premier fans" not batting an eye lid at being forced to pay £64 yes £64 friggin pound, and if you don't then bollox you can't come, no discussion no compromise nothing. In fact it has been welcomed.
Some Stoke fans have turned into Stravros like characters waving your Arsenal ticket and shouting look at my wad!
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Post by algor on Oct 31, 2008 21:29:42 GMT
Whilst I understand the Money problems people are facing I have to say the Club are doing the right thing. There is only about 5,000 match day tickets available for every game and the club are trying their best to keep them out of the hands of "away fans" & glory Hunters. They are F*****if they do and F***** if they don't.
At the end of the day SCFC are not a charity.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Oct 31, 2008 21:45:08 GMT
Whilst I understand the Money problems people are facing I have to say the Club are doing the right thing. There is only about 5,000 match day tickets available for every game and the club are trying their best to keep them out of the hands of "away fans" & glory Hunters. They are F*****if they do and F***** if they don't. At the end of the day SCFC are not a charity. As Raf would say " Nail and Head"
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Post by Oatcake Andy on Oct 31, 2008 22:05:49 GMT
CALM DOWN GUYS I am lucky. I could, for the first time in my life, afford a season ticket and associated travelling costs as I have been an exile all my life. I was lucky it was the PL season! Our first child is due in January and so I am expecting not to be able to do the same next year, based on what other first time fathers have told me. I think some supporters need to try and "think outside the box" and understand other peoples circumstances. We are all Stoke supporters in our own way. I have been to every Stoke league game this season but I certainly don't expect a medal. I have done it because I can and soon the money will dry up and I might not make another away game after xMas. All this "real supporter" crap makes us sound like the manure. For christ sake let's get behind the lads whether its at the match, in a pub or at home. Its been 23 years since we were last at this level for crying out loud. I can remember standing at the Boothen End at the Vic when we were in the 3rd tier and whilst I really did enjoy it (largely) its been unbelievable to follow Stoke this season. Come on, let's stop arguing and get behind the team and maybe, just maybe something special can happen tomorrow
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Post by algor on Oct 31, 2008 23:35:13 GMT
The Fact is and not one of you can deny this, is that where ever you go in our City you will see kids and adults wearing Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool shirts. If you go in Asda, Tesco or just take a walk in a park they are everywhere. These people will want to watch "their" team when they come to Stoke! As I said before we have limited match day tickets available and the club has to keep these people away, if that means Multi ticket then so be it. Stoke has never had this problem before this season and had most likely never considered it. Maybe next season if we stay up we can have some sort of Stoke fans registration system. But if we go down the problem will go away. This is new to all of us and we just need to deal with it.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 1, 2008 11:03:23 GMT
*Puts cap in pocket, hands glasses to mate. Comes running in to stop the flailing handbags.
Guys! Guys! Stop falling out. This is big business. This is The Prem. This is the place where you all wanted to be. The multi-buy is 'maximising revenue'. It has nothing to do with you watching a nogger game. 'They' don't care if you can't afford. 'They' don't care if the place is half full of wannabe glory hunters. The club have a sell-out for two games based on the attraction of one. They've done it before. They'll do it again. Let's save any sympathy for ourselves. They don't care. We should all feel sorry for supporters who have taken this club through thin and thinner. And then been treated like worn out garments. I feel truly, deeply sorry for the fans who can't afford. I could almost weep for their plight. I have little regard for The Prem. The evil, greedy, bastards who run the game should be hung drawn and quartered. If one was magnanimous, one could take an almost religious viewpoint towards them and say, "They know not what they do." But they do. The bastards. They know exactly what they're doing.
And that's the horrible reality we have to live with. Or, we can walk away and watch Meir K.A.
OS.
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Post by slangking on Nov 1, 2008 11:11:23 GMT
Multi buy is partly to do with trying to get more people to buy season tickets. We've had a problem for years with dismal attendances and of course there was no bleating about not being able to afford it when we struggled to get 13K in. There has to be a plan to get more people going regularly and not just the glory games, we have been complaining for years about the pathetic commercial side of the club, now they are actually trying to do something, we had a near full house against Sunderland the Hull game will most likely be the same when we know that both games wouldn't have been anywhere near sell-outs without the multi-buy.
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Post by Macko on Nov 1, 2008 11:21:10 GMT
Multi buy i sall fine and well but for exiles like myself stating exactly which match you also have to attend gives no flexibility at all. I cant make the Hull game, could make the Fulham game but I wont be given that option. Also the farce that is the online system and the uselss never answered telephone line makes it it virtually impossible to get down to the BRIT if you cant turn up in perosn at the ticket office. Living north of York makes it unlikely I'll see more than 3 or 4 home games this season.
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Post by fezgandy on Nov 1, 2008 12:12:31 GMT
Still not sold out.
Ive just bought mine and the lady in the ticket office says theres still quite a few left.
Its 2 home games against top 5 prem sides. Whats the problem?
It seems tcredit crunch is biting hard. ??? ??? ???
Fez
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 1, 2008 12:25:37 GMT
bottom line - some can afford to go and some can't. No way would I ever question anyone's ability to pay for tickets.
With the credit cruch, I can see a day when football will implode and overpaid prima donnas will have to earn an honest wage and we suporters won't be fleeced.
Until that day comes my silent protest is refusing to ever put any money in Murdoch's pockets and won't ever get SKY.
Really feel for those who can't afford to go - been in that situation myself (still am in that I conna afford away matches) and hope the club can do something about ticket prices etc next season. Saying all this, Stoke tickets are cheap compared to most.
From 1992 onwards football has backed itself into a situation where loyal fans cannot watch their team. As a body, as football supporters we should have done summat about this on a national scale a long time ago.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Nov 1, 2008 13:00:28 GMT
Just as share-prices collapsed a few years ago after unparalled rises and just as the housing market collapsed 6 months ago after ridiculous amounts of money were paid for bog-standard houses..then just as surely the football 'bubble' will burst... Its not only hugely expensive to go to games especially when like me you take children..but its costing £10 to park the car... People are just being ripped-off left, right and centre because of their love of a football-team... Cold..clinical...cynical opportunism on behalf of the clubs...I only wished I could stop watching Stoke but I can't...
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Post by Mason_Stokie on Nov 1, 2008 15:55:38 GMT
So i need an excuse for not going. What a load of crap, i did my time in the 80's and 90's when hardly anyone gave a shit about stoke. I'd love to go every week but i'm now trying to support a family in these times of hardship. I go when i can no matter if we are playing arsenal or aldershot. There will be a lot of people who went regular in the old days who are the same as me. But we all love stoke with every breath like the people who go every game. again, well said. i can afford to go today but am in the US for the Hull game. If the multi-buy wasn't in force there would be at least 3 more people there today
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