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Post by Admin on Aug 18, 2008 8:19:09 GMT
Okay everyone, I officially admit defeat. This board will no longer be subject to any admin. Just do what you like.
It just isn't worth the bucket-loads of shit every single day trying to keep this place tidy and good for everyone to read. Don't read threads, don't contribute to discussions, just start a new thread every time you want to post. And it really doesn't matter if there's already 40 on the same subject - just start a new one.
If we don't admin the board we're letting it go to pot but when we do we're a bunch of Hitlers. It's no longer worth the crap. Do what you like. Dave, Mark and myself just don't have to take this crap any more. If they wish to continue with it then that's up to them?
For me though, I have a life to lead and work to do and I'm getting back to both of them.
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Post by cornish_pasty on Aug 18, 2008 8:26:55 GMT
welcome to the cornish pasty oatcake instead then people.  |
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Post by Widget123 on Aug 18, 2008 8:28:43 GMT
smudge can i recommend you select four people to mod the boards instead a board without moderation is going to slide into oblivion, you guys have done more than your share of the work to date its only right that you should farm out the day to day running to someone fresh and new whilst you get on with the important stuff...
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Post by Admin on Aug 18, 2008 8:43:22 GMT
In all seriousness peeps, that's me done with this place. The board stays but I'm gone. The board will remain and do with it what you like. I don't need to be called a cunt, Hitler, wanker, etc, several times a day for trying to keep a message board running. Toys of out play-pen and all that but I really have had enough.  |
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Aug 18, 2008 8:49:34 GMT
seriously, that is bad news for the board, this board has become legendry for its posts and obviously not happened by chance, dunna leave it open to all sorts of abuse Smudge, some of us really do appreciate how much effort goes into it. I've been guilty of a shit post in the past and got wheeled and thought after, yes you were right, take a few days away from it but don't leave it, lunatics and asylum spring to mind.
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Post by stokecity4eva on Aug 18, 2008 8:53:59 GMT
Smudge can i ask what has caused this. ive been out of the country since last wednesday and want be filled in on what has cause you to take this strong actions
by the way can i also say it looks much better with the background back and ive also noticed that you;'ve had a spruce up on the main page.
Your doing a good job smudge
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Aug 18, 2008 9:03:22 GMT
Come on smudge, you seem as though you are twitching on the blocks.  I know there are more important things in life , for eg the news you posted on the Olympics thread. You must be rate proud. Don't let a few arseholes spoil your day. I'm sure it gets tedious at times but stick with it. This board has been a large part of so many peoples lives for so long so don't let them win. As another solution, could you choose two or three more sencible posters to administer the board for you. If they were anon then they couldn't be abused personally. At the end of the day you own the board and there have to be rules. (like having kids really) If you take the rules and regs away it will go to pot. If they don't like it and the abuse is personal then ban them. simple as. Here's hoping tomorrow is a better day for ya. |
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Post by Admin on Aug 18, 2008 9:06:17 GMT
Come on smudge, you seem as though you are twitching on the blocks. I know there are more important things in life as the news you posted on the Olympics thread. You must be rate proud. Don't let a few arseholes spoil your day. I'm sure it gets tedious at times but stick with it. This board has been a large part of so many peoples lives for so long so don't let them win. As another solution, could you choose two or three more sencible posters to administer the board for you. If they were anon then they couldn't be abused personally. At the end of the day you own the board and there have to be rules. (like having kids really) If you take the rules and regs away it will go to pot. If they don't like it and the abuse is personal then ban them. simple as. Here's hoping tomorrow is a better day for ya. Actually Si, that's already in motion. I'm taking volunteers right now. If people want to volunteer to become moderators then I'll take them up on it. As for myself though, I really am done. After 12 years I've just about had enough of all the crap. You give people something for free and take nothing but abuse for it - getting too old to be bothered with it any more mate. |
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Post by Funky on Aug 18, 2008 9:17:05 GMT
Come on smudge, you seem as though you are twitching on the blocks. I know there are more important things in life as the news you posted on the Olympics thread. You must be rate proud. Don't let a few arseholes spoil your day. I'm sure it gets tedious at times but stick with it. This board has been a large part of so many peoples lives for so long so don't let them win. As another solution, could you choose two or three more sencible posters to administer the board for you. If they were anon then they couldn't be abused personally. At the end of the day you own the board and there have to be rules. (like having kids really) If you take the rules and regs away it will go to pot. If they don't like it and the abuse is personal then ban them. simple as. Here's hoping tomorrow is a better day for ya. Actually Si, that's already in motion. I'm taking volunteers right now. If people want to volunteer to become moderators then I'll take them up on it. As for myself though, I really am done. After 12 years I've just about had enough of all the crap. You give people something for free and take nothing but abuse for it - getting too old to be bothered with it any more mate. To be honest Smudge, the forum went down bank when the Oatcake was moved over to Rivals and it hasn't recovered since. If you are done, you should hand over the full control of the site, not just look for moderators. |
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Post by stokecity4eva on Aug 18, 2008 9:20:20 GMT
what about the Hard copy of the oatcake you stil going do that smudge?
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Aug 18, 2008 9:23:36 GMT
Actually Si, that's already in motion. I'm taking volunteers right now. If people want to volunteer to become moderators then I'll take them up on it. As for myself though, I really am done. After 12 years I've just about had enough of all the crap. You give people something for free and take nothing but abuse for it - getting too old to be bothered with it any more mate. To be honest Smudge, the forum went down bank when the Oatcake was moved over to Rivals and it hasn't recovered since. If you are done, you should hand over the full control of the site, not just look for moderators. Bread, to the bitter end huh? You don't get to decide anything unfortunately, so you don't get to dictate what I should and shouldn't do. It wasn't so long ago that you were confidently predicting a move back to Rivals.  |
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Post by Funky on Aug 18, 2008 9:29:54 GMT
I may of Smudge, but only on the basis that you had already sold your soul to the devil when you moved over last time.
You can't say you are done with the site though Smudge and then still have control, either hand control over or shut up and get on with it.
Edit:
The Stokie who does the podcast would be a good choice to run this site.
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Post by ted1965 on Aug 18, 2008 9:36:31 GMT
It’s a real shame when people can’t make enquiries in a polite manner and accept the answers given as to why a post may have been deleted, yes it’s frustrating if someone had taken the time to give an opinion but it’s only a message board and not life or death.
The work the moderators do is on their own time and without the efforts of a few there’d be no board to post on. It’s a thankless task by the sounds of it, damned if you do and damned if you don’t. If a post is moved then it’s moved it’s hardly a life changing moment, we’re all Stoke supporters and family and in family life people fall out but get over it and move on, mindless abuse is never the way to solve anything and when good natured banter turns into personal abuse it really is pointless.
If the lunatics simply take over the asylum then the board may as well close immediately as decent people will walk away and you’ll just be left with a forum for abuse, bad manners, no real debate and the keyboard warrior will rule and the site will be doomed. That would be a shame because the majority of people on here are excellent and behave within the rules of the board. I guess if some people just want a free for all then they don’t actually care what kind of anarchy it descends into, for me that is the death knell of the board.
Sorry you feel its not worth it anymore Smudge mate, you do a thankless job well and shouldn’t have to put up with abuse and hassle for simply trying to free the board of crap.
I would say treat other users as you expect them to treat you, common courtesy costs nothing and keeps debates in perspective it’s an internet forum like the pub without the beer. So many people who can’t debate a point or who simply can’t believe anyone else should have a different opinion to their own immediately descend into the realms of personal abuse, it reflects only on the abuser not the person being abused.
Good luck Smudge mate as Fletch says in Porridge, don’t let the bastards grind you down.
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Post by YarnfieldStokie on Aug 18, 2008 9:41:35 GMT
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Post by DodgyDino on Aug 18, 2008 9:44:13 GMT
This has been coming for a while, This board was starting to be taken over by idiots and needed some control so as soon as someone decides to take control they get slated. The board needs to be run by someone with an iron fist not not be allowed to run by one of the idiots who frequent here. If folk are not careful it will end up like rivals and who wants that |
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Post by sovietonion on Aug 18, 2008 9:46:20 GMT
"...You can't say you are done with the site though Smudge and then still have control, either hand control over or shut up and get on with it...." FFS you just don't get it do you? Don't give the man orders on what to do with his OWN site! If a meaningful forum with a system entirely to your satisfaction means so much to you why don't you set one up yourself? Lots of time, effort and commitment has gone into the site and the fanzine over they years and there's still somebody who'll cob on about it not being up to their required standard. Be proactive and set up an alternative if it bothers you that much, and see who votes with their feet. ???  |
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Post by Beardy200 on Aug 18, 2008 9:48:15 GMT
It’s a real shame when people can’t make enquiries in a polite manner and accept the answers given as to why a post may have been deleted, yes it’s frustrating if someone had taken the time to give an opinion but it’s only a message board and not life or death. The work the moderators do is on their own time and without the efforts of a few there’d be no board to post on. It’s a thankless task by the sounds of it, damned if you do and damned if you don’t. If a post is moved then it’s moved it’s hardly a life changing moment, we’re all Stoke supporters and family and in family life people fall out but get over it and move on, mindless abuse is never the way to solve anything and when good natured banter turns into personal abuse it really is pointless. If the lunatics simply take over the asylum then the board may as well close immediately as decent people will walk away and you’ll just be left with a forum for abuse, bad manners, no real debate and the keyboard warrior will rule and the site will be doomed. That would be a shame because the majority of people on here are excellent and behave within the rules of the board. I guess if some people just want a free for all then they don’t actually care what kind of anarchy it descends into, for me that is the death knell of the board. Sorry you feel its not worth it anymore Smudge mate, you do a thankless job well and shouldn’t have to put up with abuse and hassle for simply trying to free the board of crap. I would say treat other users as you expect them to treat you, common courtesy costs nothing and keeps debates in perspective it’s an internet forum like the pub without the beer. So many people who can’t debate a point or who simply can’t believe anyone else should have a different opinion to their own immediately descend into the realms of personal abuse, it reflects only on the abuser not the person being abused. Good luck Smudge mate as Fletch says in Porridge, don’t let the bastards grind you down. Echoed wholeheartedly .... as most people would with nearly all of Ted's posts. |
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Post by Funky on Aug 18, 2008 9:49:01 GMT
That's you banned Bread, damn you for having an opinion. Smudge knows i'm only winding him up, it's been going on for years. Although, he has banned me several times in the past. I can see why he's upset, I've read the post that has wound him up, but this should be water off a ducks back, if someone posts shit or starts a new thread thats already on the board then it should be deleted, I think everyone of mine gets moved to the shit bin. Maybe putting the reason why it was moved or locked is the way to go, e.g. This thread has been moved to the shit bin due to it being the 400th post on the same subject currently live, please see: Add link to the thread with most replies on the same subject. This will help users to see why they have been moved instead of logging back on and seeing the thread in the shit bin with no reason why. |
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Post by Beardy200 on Aug 18, 2008 9:54:11 GMT
That's you banned Bread, damn you for having an opinion. Maybe putting the reason why it was moved or locked is the way to go, e.g. This thread has been moved to the shit bin due to it being the 400th post on the same subject currently live, please see: Add link to the thread with most replies on the same subject. This will help users to see why they have been moved instead of logging back on and seeing the thread in the shit bin with no reason why. Nice idea but in reality that sounds like loads more work on top of the work that he is not being appreciated for anyway. |
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Post by Funky on Aug 18, 2008 9:57:42 GMT
"...You can't say you are done with the site though Smudge and then still have control, either hand control over or shut up and get on with it...." FFS you just don't get it do you? Don't give the man orders on what to do with his OWN site! If a meaningful forum with a system entirely to your satisfaction means so much to you why don't you set one up yourself? Lots of time, effort and commitment has gone into the site and the fanzine over they years and there's still somebody who'll cob on about it not being up to their required standard. Be proactive and set up an alternative if it bothers you that much, and see who votes with their feet. ??? I don't get it? I don't think you do. I'm not giving orders to anyone, i'm giving suggestions, if there is no Admin on this board it will be unusable, instead of just letting it rot hand it over to someone who has the time and couldn't give a shit about the name calling. |
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Post by Funky on Aug 18, 2008 10:08:32 GMT
Maybe putting the reason why it was moved or locked is the way to go, e.g. This thread has been moved to the shit bin due to it being the 400th post on the same subject currently live, please see: Add link to the thread with most replies on the same subject. This will help users to see why they have been moved instead of logging back on and seeing the thread in the shit bin with no reason why. Nice idea but in reality that sounds like loads more work on top of the work that he is not being appreciated for anyway. It's not being appreciated due to the fact that no reason is given why it has been moved/locked/deleted, the guy might not have a computer at home and didn't see all the posts over the weekend on the same subject, a link to one of the posts would be more than enough, instead of just deleting it. Modding the board in this manner would maybe even get people to use the search feature before they post. Another way would be to rename the shit bin the double post board. |
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Post by luke45 on Aug 18, 2008 10:16:42 GMT
I for one have appreciated Admin's contribution to the board, remember people they do this for nothing, they take time out of there lives to asure this board is running properly, and all they have received is abuse of certain people, and i just like them, would not continue run this board, whilst receiving abuse like they have at times.
I can only hope a new selection of people can now become admin and run this board....
This was coming for a long-time, and despite people not always agreeing with admin's decisions and admin not always being there to ban an arsehole straight-away, i for one would like to thank them for there efforts, and i just hope this situation can be resolved a.s.a.p. with a new admin in place.
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Post by DodgyDino on Aug 18, 2008 10:40:51 GMT
Admin should always run the board as they see fit, If people arent happy then they go somewhere else.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 18, 2008 10:55:36 GMT
If it's a Hitler type moderator you want I'm your man!  |
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Post by ted1965 on Aug 18, 2008 10:57:11 GMT
Mr DB only if you can make thr trains run on time as well.
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Post by myleftboot on Aug 18, 2008 10:57:54 GMT
I over heard this coming at the Newcastle game. Smudge There are people who personally respect the efforts that you do on here. Every board has to have rules. Not just to suit the wide range of ages and people that use it but the actualy sanity of those users. I know how brassed off you are with it all and hopefully you will come to a solution.
I would hate to see this board go fully downhill. Yeah we have a laugh and yes there is a lot of banter however personal abuse relatinng to someones OPINIONN on something is not on chaps.
It's time we all started to respect the fact that behind a user name is a person.
Smudge if you are going, thanks for all your efforts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 11:02:48 GMT
TBH, if this board got shutdown I would be reasonably happy!! It would break my addicition and I'd be able to get on with earning a living |
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Post by grimlord1 on Aug 18, 2008 11:06:16 GMT
your hard work really is appreciated smudge, I've signed
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Post by One-Two on Aug 18, 2008 11:17:52 GMT
a vast majority of people do appreciate your hard work, it's a few who just don't get that you have a life to lead, a job and a family to look after.
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Post by Dr Oetcake on Aug 18, 2008 11:24:06 GMT
Ilford Dave for President. !!!!!
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