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Cundle
May 6, 2024 22:06:26 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 22:06:26 GMT
Continue with the Bayern bashing im all for that. BUT I have to say Cundle arrived and our poor form started from Jan onwards with him basically being invisible. A couple of goals and all of a sudden we should pay 2M for him? I really dont know about him. He looks an intelligent linking forward who can progress the game and score a few goals. But when we are under the cosh he is nowhere to be seen. We are not going to win every game next 3 or 4 nil. When we need to grind out a result he might as well not be on the pitch. He looks great on a good day and invisible otherwise. Reminds me of Clucas Goes missing ? The lad spearheads the press . There was at least 3 occasions when he counter pressed on Saturday. Ask yourself why when we have a corner he is the one delegated to press any counter or have you not spotted that ? He’s a terrier . His like up with Junho further evidence. How much do you need before you realise he’s a diamond . A proper team player . He was missing for 4 months
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Cundle
May 6, 2024 22:08:09 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 22:08:09 GMT
More proof you know nothing about football. Way better goalkeepers around and available than him Such as? Aside from the Rotherham keeper, I’d be interested in your alternative better options. Since Cardiff Iversen hasn’t put a foot wrong and has made several important saves at key moments that have helped give us the platform to get the points from games. He’s the best keeper we’ve had since Butland’s final season by some distance. Yeah it’s a very odd comment for many reasons. Totally agree with you. But as well the dude is also agreeing with what I said 🤣 if there’s a cheaper option I’d go for them. This place is just getting odder.
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Cundle
May 6, 2024 22:15:52 GMT
Post by cheekymatt71 on May 6, 2024 22:15:52 GMT
Such as? Aside from the Rotherham keeper, I’d be interested in your alternative better options. Since Cardiff Iversen hasn’t put a foot wrong and has made several important saves at key moments that have helped give us the platform to get the points from games. He’s the best keeper we’ve had since Butland’s final season by some distance. Yeah it’s a very odd comment for many reasons. Totally agree with you. But as well the dude is also agreeing with what I said 🤣 if there’s a cheaper option I’d go for them. This place is just getting odder. Haha I do agree on Cundle but dont really want to be seen on your side in general Bayern. Travers was also a better keeper this season. Rotherham keeper would definitely be first choice. Im just not convinced by Iverson - he generally doesnt save long range shots very much. Dodgy kicking but then we always knew that about him. His reflex saves have been pretty good and he is average on crosses. But would never say he is a commanding goalkeeper in the same vain as Mark Crossley was for us years ago. I want someone that breads confidence in the defence and Iverson isnt that guy. He hasnt made many fuck ups the last games but doesnt generate any confidence at all. There is probably better keepers in League 1 but hey Im not a scout so dont ask me for a list of names.
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Cundle
May 6, 2024 22:17:37 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 22:17:37 GMT
Yeah it’s a very odd comment for many reasons. Totally agree with you. But as well the dude is also agreeing with what I said 🤣 if there’s a cheaper option I’d go for them. This place is just getting odder. Haha I do agree on Cundle but dont really want to be seen on your side in general Bayern. Travers was also a better keeper this season. Rotherham keeper would definitely be first choice. Im just not convinced by Iverson - he generally doesnt save long range shots very much. Dodgy kicking but then we always knew that about him. His reflex saves have been pretty good and he is average on crosses. But would never say he is a commanding goalkeeper in the same vain as Mark Crossley was for us years ago. I want someone that breads confidence in the defence and Iverson isnt that guy. He hasnt made many fuck ups the last games but doesnt generate any confidence at all. There is probably better keepers in League 1 but hey Im not a scout so dont ask me for a list of names. Why not? I’m usually right. Don’t see the fuss re Travers and he’s not at all attainable now. Disagree re Iversen, I think he’s been good but there probably is better value out there. Hence my maybe.
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Cundle
May 6, 2024 22:21:07 GMT
Post by cheekymatt71 on May 6, 2024 22:21:07 GMT
Haha I do agree on Cundle but dont really want to be seen on your side in general Bayern. Travers was also a better keeper this season. Rotherham keeper would definitely be first choice. Im just not convinced by Iverson - he generally doesnt save long range shots very much. Dodgy kicking but then we always knew that about him. His reflex saves have been pretty good and he is average on crosses. But would never say he is a commanding goalkeeper in the same vain as Mark Crossley was for us years ago. I want someone that breads confidence in the defence and Iverson isnt that guy. He hasnt made many fuck ups the last games but doesnt generate any confidence at all. There is probably better keepers in League 1 but hey Im not a scout so dont ask me for a list of names. Why not? I’m usually right. Don’t see the fuss re Travers and he’s not at all attainable now. Disagree re Iversen, I think he’s been good but there probably is better value out there. Hence my maybe. I would say hes done OK and hasnt made too many major boo-boos. But still he shits me up when watching, he doesnt know when to come out of his goal line or not etc. He just doesnt inspire confidence. I dont want to see him at Stoke next season and I dont think we will. And yes you are always right OB-wan
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Cundle
May 6, 2024 22:23:12 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 22:23:12 GMT
Why not? I’m usually right. Don’t see the fuss re Travers and he’s not at all attainable now. Disagree re Iversen, I think he’s been good but there probably is better value out there. Hence my maybe. I would say hes done OK and hasnt made too many major boo-boos. But still he shits me up when watching, he doesnt know when to come out of his goal line or not etc. He just doesnt inspire confidence. I dont want to see him at Stoke next season and I dont think we will. And yes you are always right OB-wan I think he’s probably won is 3/4 points in his time here and made a huge difference tbh. I mean you’ve only got to look at the game on Saturday. After the 3 attackers (Cundle, Junho and Manhoef) he was our best player and kept us in the game.
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Cundle
May 6, 2024 22:29:14 GMT
Post by cheekymatt71 on May 6, 2024 22:29:14 GMT
I would say hes done OK and hasnt made too many major boo-boos. But still he shits me up when watching, he doesnt know when to come out of his goal line or not etc. He just doesnt inspire confidence. I dont want to see him at Stoke next season and I dont think we will. And yes you are always right OB-wan I think he’s probably won is 3/4 points in his time here and made a huge difference tbh. I mean you’ve only got to look at the game on Saturday. After the 3 attackers (Cundle, Junho and Manhoef) he was our best player and kept us in the game. And I think he let in some soft goals on his near side that good keepers would have saved. I cant be arsed to go back over the season but I dont think hes made much difference at all
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Cundle
May 6, 2024 22:39:40 GMT
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Post by Pottersfan on May 6, 2024 22:39:40 GMT
Such as? Aside from the Rotherham keeper, I’d be interested in your alternative better options. Since Cardiff Iversen hasn’t put a foot wrong and has made several important saves at key moments that have helped give us the platform to get the points from games. He’s the best keeper we’ve had since Butland’s final season by some distance. Yeah it’s a very odd comment for many reasons. Totally agree with you. But as well the dude is also agreeing with what I said 🤣 if there’s a cheaper option I’d go for them. This place is just getting odder. Fuck off then ?
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Post by clarkeda on May 7, 2024 5:29:38 GMT
More proof you know nothing about football. Way better goalkeepers around and available than him Such as? Aside from the Rotherham keeper, I’d be interested in your alternative better options. Since Cardiff Iversen hasn’t put a foot wrong and has made several important saves at key moments that have helped give us the platform to get the points from games. He’s the best keeper we’ve had since Butland’s final season by some distance. I agree. I’d prefer Iverson over Johansson if everything was equal. But I don’t think you’d lose much with Johansson and my guess is he’s be significantly cheaper.
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Post by ceejays on May 7, 2024 7:10:58 GMT
Recently SS referred to the improved fitness of the team . A long way to go he said but pre season will resolve .When Cundle arrived he was SS fit and whenever he triggered the press the others couldn’t back it up . Moreover SS spent the first weeks on the touchline imploring us to pass forward . That’s what Cundle does . It’s taken time to implement and a failed experiment with inverted fullbacks ( to try and resolve ) but there’s no doubt Cundle ( with Junho ) are the fittest . A must buy
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Cundle
May 7, 2024 7:44:11 GMT
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on May 7, 2024 7:44:11 GMT
Goes missing ? The lad spearheads the press . There was at least 3 occasions when he counter pressed on Saturday. Ask yourself why when we have a corner he is the one delegated to press any counter or have you not spotted that ? He’s a terrier . His like up with Junho further evidence. How much do you need before you realise he’s a diamond . A proper team player . He was missing for 4 months When chasing games and playing terribly he always showed for the ball and tried to take responsibility for getting the team up the pitch. Shit times doesn't mean everyone was shit. Similarly,Ben Pearson had some very good games before AN left but there was absolutely nothing in front of him and we never looked like scoring so everyone thinks he's useless now.
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Cundle
May 7, 2024 7:50:44 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 7:50:44 GMT
He was missing for 4 months When chasing games and playing terribly he always showed for the ball and tried to take responsibility for getting the team up the pitch. Shit times doesn't mean everyone was shit. Similarly,Ben Pearson had some very good games before AN left but there was absolutely nothing in front of him and we never looked like scoring so everyone thinks he's useless now. Pearson just looks like he doesn’t want to be here. That’s why I don’t like him. As for Cundle he was shit. He hid. He wasn’t involved in the games and had no influence. That was his mo for most of his time here. So forgive me on not wanting to pay money for that yet.
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Cundle
May 7, 2024 7:51:31 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 7:51:31 GMT
Yeah it’s a very odd comment for many reasons. Totally agree with you. But as well the dude is also agreeing with what I said 🤣 if there’s a cheaper option I’d go for them. This place is just getting odder. Fuck off then ? I’m good thanks. I just wish people would learn.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 7, 2024 7:56:56 GMT
He may have only had “3 good games” but I think the wider point is we’ve now seen what he can actually do in those games and he’s looked superb. Passing, movement and creativity have been top end championship quality. The fact it took him a while to bed in has masked what an excellent footballer he appears to be. For 1-2 million I wouldn’t hesitate to sign him and offload Baker AND Laurent.
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Cundle
May 7, 2024 7:59:49 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 7:59:49 GMT
He may have only had “3 good games” but I think the wider point is we’ve now seen what he can actually do in those games and he’s looked superb. Passing, movement and creativity have been top end championship quality. The fact it took him a while to bed in has masked what an excellent footballer he appears to be. For 1-2 million I wouldn’t hesitate to sign him and offload Baker AND Laurent. Indeed which is why we need to loan him again to see which is the real him. Was it a flash in the pan? You don’t risk millions on that.
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Cundle
May 7, 2024 8:04:44 GMT
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Post by thornestein on May 7, 2024 8:04:44 GMT
He may have only had “3 good games” but I think the wider point is we’ve now seen what he can actually do in those games and he’s looked superb. Passing, movement and creativity have been top end championship quality. The fact it took him a while to bed in has masked what an excellent footballer he appears to be. For 1-2 million I wouldn’t hesitate to sign him and offload Baker AND Laurent. Indeed which is why we need to loan him again to see which is the real him. Was it a flash in the pan? You don’t risk millions on that. it’s never stopped us before
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Cundle
May 7, 2024 8:05:52 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 8:05:52 GMT
Indeed which is why we need to loan him again to see which is the real him. Was it a flash in the pan? You don’t risk millions on that. it’s never stopped us before Tbf we’ve done it with Hoever and got the same results and people still want him 🤣🤦♂️ It’s very strange.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 7, 2024 8:06:22 GMT
I think Iversen has played really well apart from a nervous start here. I would really love to see him come back to us permanently.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 7, 2024 10:21:48 GMT
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Post by etebojan on May 7, 2024 10:30:43 GMT
That sounds like they'll 100% be trying to get a Cundle deal done
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Post by cvillestokie on May 7, 2024 10:44:36 GMT
He may have only had “3 good games” but I think the wider point is we’ve now seen what he can actually do in those games and he’s looked superb. Passing, movement and creativity have been top end championship quality. The fact it took him a while to bed in has masked what an excellent footballer he appears to be. For 1-2 million I wouldn’t hesitate to sign him and offload Baker AND Laurent. Indeed which is why we need to loan him again to see which is the real him. Was it a flash in the pan? You don’t risk millions on that. At worst, he is capable in the division. He’s only just turned 22. He will continually improve. He has also had a chance to settle here and knows the squad. If we are bringing in 5-6 more signings, then having one that already knows everyone that’s left is a good way to improve squad harmony.
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Post by moon on May 7, 2024 11:35:25 GMT
He may have only had “3 good games” but I think the wider point is we’ve now seen what he can actually do in those games and he’s looked superb. Passing, movement and creativity have been top end championship quality. The fact it took him a while to bed in has masked what an excellent footballer he appears to be. For 1-2 million I wouldn’t hesitate to sign him and offload Baker AND Laurent. Indeed which is why we need to loan him again to see which is the real him. Was it a flash in the pan? You don’t risk millions on that. If he comes in on loan and plays the majority of next season like he finished this one then he’d be out of our budget anyway. If the fee is reasonable this summer then it’s a no brainer to sign him, Schumacher trusts him and he’s spent the majority of the season with him at Plymouth then Stoke so he knows what he is capable of.
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Cundle
May 7, 2024 11:39:31 GMT
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Post by march4 on May 7, 2024 11:39:31 GMT
Didn’t the manager say on Saturday that Cundle does things ‘properly’?
It’s that word again.
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 7, 2024 11:41:16 GMT
Is he one we really need though in terms of spending money on the position? A loan with an option would be good but I'm not totally convinced by him.
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Post by wonderwall on May 7, 2024 12:29:33 GMT
If he played for Bristol city and played like he did in that game, we’d be creaming over him if he was available.
For £1/2mil he’s worth it, you don’t get naff all for that these days and he has potential to improve with being 22YO.
Better gamble than the £1.5m on Jojic!
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Cundle
May 7, 2024 12:40:15 GMT
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Post by ceejays on May 7, 2024 12:40:15 GMT
Bayern as per normal cannot read a match . I suggest he reads what SS says . It’s pretty obvious to anyone what a player Cundle is . A team player . Just the DNA Walters has banged on about . It’s a complete no brainer. As for Pejic article he simply is a dinosaur. Loans are no risk . Allow you to vet the player before buying . Hoever Iversen Cundle have had a major impact. McNally less so but now he has the best defender in the club in Wilmot besides him looks more assured .
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Cundle
May 7, 2024 12:52:27 GMT
Post by dirtygary69 on May 7, 2024 12:52:27 GMT
Is he one we really need though in terms of spending money on the position? A loan with an option would be good but I'm not totally convinced by him. Depends how much, but I certainly would if the price was right. It's clear why Schumacher rates him now, having seen him in his preferred position, jinking and linking with Junho. We need to carry over what we can from the last month or so into next season and those two looked like they have a good understanding of each other. He won't work in every game because teams will become wise to it and close those gaps and make it a physical battle but he's certainly worth spending on, if it's nothing silly.
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Post by ceejays on May 7, 2024 13:30:06 GMT
Read SS . It’s pretty obvious that Cundle wasn’t accepted by his team mates initially. That’s not a surprise. We had 7 midfielders. They were bound to ask themselves why do we need him . What about me ? They wouldn’t pass to the lad . But he kept his head down . Remained enthusiastic. Didn’t sulk ( SS words ) and won them over . He never went missing as some people keep saying. He was super fit . The rest of our midfield weren’t . Roll forward a month or two and he’s shown himself to be everything SS said initially. A must buy . It’s a no brainer
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Cundle
May 7, 2024 15:09:41 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 15:09:41 GMT
Indeed which is why we need to loan him again to see which is the real him. Was it a flash in the pan? You don’t risk millions on that. If he comes in on loan and plays the majority of next season like he finished this one then he’d be out of our budget anyway. If the fee is reasonable this summer then it’s a no brainer to sign him, Schumacher trusts him and he’s spent the majority of the season with him at Plymouth then Stoke so he knows what he is capable of. I’d question his judgement if that was the case.
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Post by emretezzy on May 7, 2024 15:15:48 GMT
Cundle for 1/2m would be a steal.
He gets goals, covers ground and now he finally has some half decent players to pass to and get it back.
He is also one for the best players I've seen playing in Under23s for the last 10 years. He will be in the prem in 1/2 years with or without us.
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