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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 14, 2024 11:21:01 GMT
There was lots of reports of a Jewish man named Benjamin Cohen being responsible for the attack on social media for some strange reason, some were fairly trustworthy sources as well. But you have to be so so careful with these things until a confirmed ID is in place....... You don't have to tell me that. I didn't make any such claims. He didn't though either did he? That is a claim you that have rather disingenuously (at best) introduced. He said the killer was Jewish, as that was what was being widely reported at the time, NOT because (as you have suggested) he thought it was the ONLY way to say that he wasn't a Muslim. If it had been reported at the time, that he was (I dunno) say, a black Christian, do you have any reason to believe that he would have omitted that element in his reply?
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Post by gawa on Apr 14, 2024 11:41:09 GMT
Any news on the baby? Said they were having surgery yesterday but not heard much since.
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Post by franklin on Apr 14, 2024 11:52:05 GMT
So it's OK for you to insinuate I'm racist for liking a post without establishing the facts first you're not only a cock but a hypocrite too. Man 'likes' unfounded religious-based terrorism claim on a public message board (in which the original poster has been big enough to retract the statement) - I'll let you decide what word you would like to use? I'll be generous and stick with 'prat'. With regards to part two, even last night there was enough reporting (or lack-of) to let anybody know with half a brain that this was never going to be 'muslim terrorist' related. Of course, your own confirmed lack of media sources would help understand why you couldn't join the dots. Time to just stop digging yourself an unnecessary hole and follow crouchpotatoes lead... Even I, the sanctimonious hypocritical cock got something wrong once. I actually think it was necessary to respond because you were quite happy to form an opinion based on a click of a button while pontificating on the "facts first" approach so forgive me for calling you "out" on your staggering hypocrisy and being annoyed, you are what you are the shit side of this forum somebody who's only thought is to finger point, point score and accuse under the umbrella of some weird moral arbiter position. You were wrong you didn't seek to clarify by asking so my opinion of you stands. You won't "scare" me off or humiliate me into some climb down infact if you like I'll "double down" on what i think of you if you like. I can crack on all day if you want and keep trading insults so either move along as will I or carry on either way I don't give a shit. Edit: as for my position on the "like" I've explained it earlier so either accept it or not and once again I don't give a shit either way.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 14, 2024 11:52:53 GMT
To be fair the fella Cohen was named as the attacker in Australian news. So those rumours came from a legitimate source. This proves how dangerous social media is especially when false information is given out. Can you imagine if a person named Benjamin Cohens parents home was attacked and even worse injured because of false “rumours” when they’re totally innocent of any wrong doing.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 14, 2024 11:59:46 GMT
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Post by mrnovember on Apr 14, 2024 12:08:45 GMT
You don't have to tell me that. I didn't make any such claims. He didn't though either did he? That is a claim you that have rather disingenuously (at best) introduced. He said the killer was Jewish, as that was what was being widely reported at the time, NOT because (as you have suggested) he thought it was the ONLY way to say that he wasn't a Muslim. If it had been reported at the time, that he was (I dunno) say, a black Christian, do you have any reason to believe that he would have omitted that element in his reply? What have I done that is disingenuous?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 14, 2024 12:13:48 GMT
He didn't though either did he? That is a claim you that have rather disingenuously (at best) introduced. He said the killer was Jewish, as that was what was being widely reported at the time, NOT because (as you have suggested) he thought it was the ONLY way to say that he wasn't a Muslim. If it had been reported at the time, that he was (I dunno) say, a black Christian, do you have any reason to believe that he would have omitted that element in his reply? What have I done that is disingenuous? I've literally just told you.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 14, 2024 12:13:58 GMT
So it wasn’t that Cohen guy then? Feel sorry for the person who was named and had nothing to do with it - that sucks!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 12:33:05 GMT
And then misquoting that the attacker was Jewish is equally as bad Not really mate...reports where unconfirmed at the time. And I didn't post islamophobic crap or it's equivalent did I? Pipe down you clown. 🤣it was nearly as bad. Just apologise.
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Post by knype on Apr 14, 2024 12:41:19 GMT
Not really mate...reports where unconfirmed at the time. And I didn't post islamophobic crap or it's equivalent did I? Pipe down you clown. 🤣it was nearly as bad. Just apologise. Good luck with that 🤣🤣🤣 He's probably walking around Tunstall or Fegg Hayes kicking anything that moves
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Post by mrnovember on Apr 14, 2024 13:02:25 GMT
What have I done that is disingenuous? I've literally just told you. Okay, you're right. Saying something like 'Hes not a Muslim. Hard luck.' and leaving out the spurious bit would have been all together too ambiguous. Anyway I'm going to recognise that I've fallen down the wrong hole on this issue now focus instead on the tragic events.
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Post by henry on Apr 14, 2024 13:12:46 GMT
To be fair the fella Cohen was named as the attacker in Australian news. So those rumours came from a legitimate source. This proves how dangerous social media is especially when false information is given out. Can you imagine if a person named Benjamin Cohens parents home was attacked and even worse injured because of false “rumours” when they’re totally innocent of any wrong doing. Just look at what's happening to Roy Cropper
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Post by gawa on Apr 14, 2024 13:13:18 GMT
To be fair the fella Cohen was named as the attacker in Australian news. So those rumours came from a legitimate source. This proves how dangerous social media is especially when false information is given out. Can you imagine if a person named Benjamin Cohens parents home was attacked and even worse injured because of false “rumours” when they’re totally innocent of any wrong doing. Watched a decent movie where this was the plot a while ago. Someone falsely named and then coming under attack.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Apr 14, 2024 13:19:36 GMT
This proves how dangerous social media is especially when false information is given out. Can you imagine if a person named Benjamin Cohens parents home was attacked and even worse injured because of false “rumours” when they’re totally innocent of any wrong doing. Just look at what's happening to Roy Cropper Life mirrors art.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 14, 2024 14:13:06 GMT
You don't have to tell me that. I didn't make any such claims. He didn't though either did he? That is a claim you that have rather disingenuously (at best) introduced. He said the killer was Jewish, as that was what was being widely reported at the time, NOT because (as you have suggested) he thought it was the ONLY way to say that he wasn't a Muslim. If it had been reported at the time, that he was (I dunno) say, a black Christian, do you have any reason to believe that he would have omitted that element in his reply? I know what I meant Paul.The usual suspects are trying to weaponise what I wrote,to their eternal discredit.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 14, 2024 14:15:29 GMT
Not really mate...reports where unconfirmed at the time. And I didn't post islamophobic crap or it's equivalent did I? Pipe down you clown. 🤣it was nearly as bad. Just apologise. I did....clearly you haven't read it.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 14, 2024 15:28:57 GMT
This proves how dangerous social media is especially when false information is given out. Can you imagine if a person named Benjamin Cohens parents home was attacked and even worse injured because of false “rumours” when they’re totally innocent of any wrong doing. Just look at what's happening to Roy Cropper That literally made me LOL...
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Post by knype on Apr 14, 2024 15:29:34 GMT
He didn't though either did he? That is a claim you that have rather disingenuously (at best) introduced. He said the killer was Jewish, as that was what was being widely reported at the time, NOT because (as you have suggested) he thought it was the ONLY way to say that he wasn't a Muslim. If it had been reported at the time, that he was (I dunno) say, a black Christian, do you have any reason to believe that he would have omitted that element in his reply? I know what I meant Paul.The usual suspects are trying to weaponise what I wrote,to their eternal discredit. No, you clearly implied that he was Jewish and countered crouchpotato saying he was Muslim, you were being a smug shit as usual, and again it backfired and now you're trying to crawl away from it and deflect
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Post by foster on Apr 14, 2024 15:36:39 GMT
Just look at what's happening to Roy Cropper That literally made me LOL... Yeah, post of the day.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 14, 2024 15:46:05 GMT
I know what I meant Paul.The usual suspects are trying to weaponise what I wrote,to their eternal discredit. No, you clearly implied that he was Jewish and countered crouchpotato saying he was Muslim, you were being a smug shit as usual, and again it backfired and now you're trying to crawl away from it and deflect That was what was being reported at the time, tell me knype, why aren't you also having a pop at Cobham, who suggested that the killer was a radical Jew?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 14, 2024 15:54:04 GMT
That was what was being reported at the time, tell me knype, why aren't you also having a pop at Cobham, who suggested that the killer was a radical Jew? Huddys response to Crouchy was what’s known as race baiting. Cobs was merely stating what had been reported by the media No it wasn't at all, he didn't even use a word like radical, that was something that Cobham quoted. He simply said, he was Jewish and (as I said earlier) if it had been reported at the time, that he was a Black Chrisian, then he would have said exactly the same.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 14, 2024 15:55:37 GMT
Huddys response to Crouchy was what’s known as race baiting. Cobs was merely stating what had been reported by the media No it wasn't at all, he didn't even use a word like radical, that was something that Cobham quoted. He simply said, he was Jewish and (as I said earlier) if it had been reported at the time, that he was a Black Chrisian, then he would have said exactly the same. As you will probably have seen by now, I’ve deleted my post as I went back and checked after posting and realised I was wrong. Apologies to Huddy.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 14, 2024 15:55:42 GMT
No, you clearly implied that he was Jewish and countered crouchpotato saying he was Muslim, you were being a smug shit as usual, and again it backfired and now you're trying to crawl away from it and deflect That was what was being reported at the time, tell me knype, why aren't you also having a pop at Cobham, who suggested that the killer was a radical Jew? Probably because mine was just an update nothing more and wasn’t in response to any other posts.
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Post by knype on Apr 14, 2024 15:56:52 GMT
No, you clearly implied that he was Jewish and countered crouchpotato saying he was Muslim, you were being a smug shit as usual, and again it backfired and now you're trying to crawl away from it and deflect That was what was being reported at the time, tell me knype, why aren't you also having a pop at Cobham, who suggested that the killer was a radical Jew? Never saw that so can't comment.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 14, 2024 15:59:13 GMT
That was what was being reported at the time, tell me knype, why aren't you also having a pop at Cobham, who suggested that the killer was a radical Jew? Probably because mine was just an update nothing more and wasn’t in response to any other posts. I know mate, that's the exact point I'm making. And Huddy's was an update to. His post absolutely is being weaponised.
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Post by Gods on Apr 14, 2024 16:00:06 GMT
I thought it was odd.
Not that long ago Ben Cohen was an England rugby International, as soon as I saw it I thought it was unlikely he'd get involved with anything like this.
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Post by knype on Apr 14, 2024 16:00:39 GMT
Probably because mine was just an update nothing more and wasn’t in response to any other posts. I know mate, that's the exact point I'm making. And neither was Huddy's. No, Huddy actually stated as a matter of fact that he was in fact Jewish.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 14, 2024 16:00:49 GMT
I thought it was odd. Not that long ago Ben Cohen was an England rugby International, as soon as I saw it I thought it was unlikely he'd get involved with anything like this. I’m surprised you’ve heard of an England rugby international to be honest
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Post by knype on Apr 14, 2024 16:01:02 GMT
Probably because mine was just an update nothing more and wasn’t in response to any other posts. I know mate, that's the exact point I'm making. And Huddy's was an update to. His post absolutely is being weaponised. Weaponised ? Oh come on
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 14, 2024 16:02:03 GMT
No it wasn't at all, he didn't even use a word like radical, that was something that Cobham quoted. He simply said, he was Jewish and (as I said earlier) if it had been reported at the time, that he was a Black Chrisian, then he would have said exactly the same. As you will probably have seen by now, I’ve deleted my post as I went back and checked after posting and realised I was wrong. Apologies to Huddy. Fair play to you mate, it takes a lot to apologise on here some times. Good man.
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