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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 7, 2024 0:03:46 GMT
Just win and put any doubts to bed. Fed up of reading bollocks like he's out of his depth and he's Jones 2.0. Will take way more than staying up for that sorry 🤣 This has got a late autumn Shuey sacking written all over it. I can't see how he makes until Christmas if Ennis and Cundle are anything to go by. I'd be more tempted to keep him if we went down.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 7, 2024 0:09:20 GMT
Will take way more than staying up for that sorry 🤣 This has got a late autumn Shuey sacking written all over it. I can't see how he makes until Christmas if Ennis and Cundle are anything to go by. I'd be more tempted to keep him if we went down. Pretty much my thinking. I lost all faith when he did. He wavered when there was no need and I will need a lot of convincing that he has the courage to make the performance of today a regular thing.
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Post by banksy1art on Apr 7, 2024 0:15:44 GMT
This has got a late autumn Shuey sacking written all over it. I can't see how he makes until Christmas if Ennis and Cundle are anything to go by. I'd be more tempted to keep him if we went down. Pretty much my thinking. I lost all faith when he did. He wavered when there was no need and I will need a lot of convincing that he has the courage to make the performance of today a regular thing. go to bed Bayern, your clearly sleep deprived and it’s making you delusional
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 7, 2024 0:22:36 GMT
Pretty much my thinking. I lost all faith when he did. He wavered when there was no need and I will need a lot of convincing that he has the courage to make the performance of today a regular thing. go to bed Bayern, your clearly sleep deprived and it’s making you delusional Far from it. Today was great but it should be the norm. It isn’t. And we’ve won two home games since late October….
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Post by LphPotter on Apr 7, 2024 0:34:01 GMT
go to bed Bayern, your clearly sleep deprived and it’s making you delusional Far from it. Today was great but it should be the norm. It isn’t. And we’ve won two home games since late October…. That’s not solely a Schumacher problem though is it, it’s been the same for 6 years. We’ve come back from losing positions to get something from the game twice in a week, after not doing it for 18 months at home. There’s something building slowly, it takes time. To rip it all up and start again, yet again, would be madness.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 7, 2024 0:36:31 GMT
Far from it. Today was great but it should be the norm. It isn’t. And we’ve won two home games since late October…. That’s not solely a Schumacher problem though is it, it’s been the same for 6 years. We’ve come back from losing positions to get something from the game twice in a week, after not doing it for 18 months at home. There’s something building slowly, it takes time. To rip it all up and start again, yet again, would be madness. He’s not changed it though. And we shouldn’t have been in the losing positions bar for his bad decisions (the whole starting XI against Huddersfield and not starting Burger today). But that is a nice change. The whole club needs ripping apart
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Post by LphPotter on Apr 7, 2024 0:39:50 GMT
That’s not solely a Schumacher problem though is it, it’s been the same for 6 years. We’ve come back from losing positions to get something from the game twice in a week, after not doing it for 18 months at home. There’s something building slowly, it takes time. To rip it all up and start again, yet again, would be madness. He’s not changed it though. And we shouldn’t have been in the losing positions bar for his bad decisions (the whole starting XI against Huddersfield and not starting Burger today). But that is a nice change. The whole club needs ripping apart Burger went off injured on Monday, I don’t know but that was the reason he didn’t start today surely? I agree the starting team was poor against Huddersfield but for me he’s showing that he’s learning and willing to adapt and change far more than any of our previous few managers did.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 7, 2024 0:58:09 GMT
He’s not changed it though. And we shouldn’t have been in the losing positions bar for his bad decisions (the whole starting XI against Huddersfield and not starting Burger today). But that is a nice change. The whole club needs ripping apart Burger went off injured on Monday, I don’t know but that was the reason he didn’t start today surely? I agree the starting team was poor against Huddersfield but for me he’s showing that he’s learning and willing to adapt and change far more than any of our previous few managers did. He should have started today if he was fit enough to be on the bench. I don’t think he’s learned much but today was good and long May that continue. There’s no reason it shouldn’t.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 7, 2024 6:24:08 GMT
This has got a late autumn Shuey sacking written all over it. I can't see how he makes until Christmas if Ennis and Cundle are anything to go by. I'd be more tempted to keep him if we went down. Pretty much my thinking. I lost all faith when he did. He wavered when there was no need and I will need a lot of convincing that he has the courage to make the performance of today a regular thing. Yep, indeed. I've seen absolutely nothing to suggest this isn't going to end the same way as the previous 4 or 5 before him.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 7, 2024 6:25:53 GMT
Pretty much my thinking. I lost all faith when he did. He wavered when there was no need and I will need a lot of convincing that he has the courage to make the performance of today a regular thing. go to bed Bayern, your clearly sleep deprived and it’s making you delusional What have you seen, be it in the way of transfers or tactically that makes you think Shuey is going to transform us into a top 6 side?
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 7, 2024 6:46:51 GMT
.....................Iversen.................. Hoever......McNally..........Rose......Stevens .....................Burger................... ...........Laurent..........Baker............. Manhoef............Campbell.............Bae...
Subs: Bonham, Wilmot, Thompson, Leris, Vidigal, Haksa, Ennis, Cundle.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 7, 2024 7:30:36 GMT
.....................Iversen.................. Hoever......McNally..........Rose......Stevens .....................Burger................... ...........Laurent..........Baker............. Manhoef............Campbell.............Bae... Subs: Bonham, Wilmot, Thompson, Leris, Vidigal, Haksa, Ennis, Cundle. This if Mmaee’s injured. I do have a feeling he’ll be tinkering though and it’ll end up .....................Iversen.................. Hoever......McNally..........Rose......Thompson .....................Burger................... ...........Laurent..........Baker............. Leris....……….....Ennis.............Bae... Ennis’s work rate is excellent but as a footballer I have grave concerns.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 7, 2024 7:45:14 GMT
.....................Iversen.................. Hoever......McNally..........Rose......Stevens .....................Burger................... ...........Laurent..........Baker............. Manhoef............Campbell.............Bae... Subs: Bonham, Wilmot, Thompson, Leris, Vidigal, Haksa, Ennis, Cundle. This if Mmaee’s injured. I do have a feeling he’ll be tinkering though and it’ll end up .....................Iversen.................. Hoever......McNally..........Rose......Thompson .....................Burger................... ...........Laurent..........Baker............. Leris....……….....Ennis.............Bae... Ennis’s work rate is excellent but as a footballer I have grave concerns. Manhoef was our star player yesterday in my opinion and needs to play. Ennis might be a better choice than Campbell as you know what you get, something we never do with Campbell. I could also be tempted to try Leris up top as he is great in the air and very good at holding the ball up. I know square pegs in round holes etc., but I actually think he could be a better choice than both Ennis and Campbell. I don't think they will risk Mmaee for this game.
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Post by lordb on Apr 7, 2024 9:24:36 GMT
Burger went off injured on Monday, I don’t know but that was the reason he didn’t start today surely? I agree the starting team was poor against Huddersfield but for me he’s showing that he’s learning and willing to adapt and change far more than any of our previous few managers did. He should have started today if he was fit enough to be on the bench. I don’t think he’s learned much but today was good and long May that continue. There’s no reason it shouldn’t. The 'fit enough to be on the bench' argument made sense when you had just the one sub, or even when you had 3 Now you can use 5 and have more that on the bench it doesn't hold as much water Having someone who isn't fit enough to play 90 minutes (or even 60) is now perfectly valid I think managers still haven't utilised the 5 subs properly when it's going very wrong why wait till 60 minutes or even half time? Every manager ever has and will at some point pick the wrong team or have the wrong set up for a game If as a manager you can see it's all wrong change it after 30 minutes or even sooner
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Post by lordb on Apr 7, 2024 9:26:09 GMT
This if Mmaee’s injured. I do have a feeling he’ll be tinkering though and it’ll end up .....................Iversen.................. Hoever......McNally..........Rose......Thompson .....................Burger................... ...........Laurent..........Baker............. Leris....……….....Ennis.............Bae... Ennis’s work rate is excellent but as a footballer I have grave concerns. Manhoef was our star player yesterday in my opinion and needs to play. Ennis might be a better choice than Campbell as you know what you get, something we never do with Campbell. I could also be tempted to try Leris up top as he is great in the air and very good at holding the ball up. I know square pegs in round holse etc., but I actually think he could be a better choice than both Ennis and Campbell. I don't think they will risk Mmaee for this game. Don’t think Stevens will play either, he will be saved for Saturday
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Post by thornestein on Apr 7, 2024 9:27:31 GMT
Manhoef was our star player yesterday in my opinion and needs to play. Ennis might be a better choice than Campbell as you know what you get, something we never do with Campbell. I could also be tempted to try Leris up top as he is great in the air and very good at holding the ball up. I know square pegs in round holse etc., but I actually think he could be a better choice than both Ennis and Campbell. I don't think they will risk Mmaee for this game. Don’t think Stevens will play either, he will be saved for Saturday with just 5 games to go is necessary to save players 🤷♂️
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 7, 2024 9:28:05 GMT
He should have started today if he was fit enough to be on the bench. I don’t think he’s learned much but today was good and long May that continue. There’s no reason it shouldn’t. The 'fit enough to be on the bench' argument made sense when you had just the one sub, or even when you had 3 Now you can use 5 and have more that on the bench it doesn't hold as much water Having someone who isn't fit enough to play 90 minutes (or even 60) is now perfectly valid I think managers still haven't utilised the 5 subs properly when it's going very wrong why wait till 60 minutes or even half time? Every manager ever has and will at some point pick the wrong team or have the wrong set up for a game If as a manager you can see it's all wrong change it after 30 minutes or even sooner If Thompson broke his leg in the first minute he’d have been on. It’s a load of bollocks, you’re fit or you’re not and there was clearly nothing up with him. Schumacher has a knack of doing it for 3 home games in a row 🤣yesterday is being harsh but the decision seemed curious at the time and I think the way game went showed it was a bad decision. 0-2 without, 2-0 with him.
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Post by blackpoolred on Apr 7, 2024 9:41:31 GMT
Type of games we always lose in the past, Blackburn were in freefall when we visited them and we lost 3-1, still there only win at home this year. Seem to have a bit more about us at the moment though, but personally be happy if we can avoid defeat in this one and the next one and pick up what would be a couple of useful points. Signed our most negative fan
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Post by LphPotter on Apr 7, 2024 11:37:36 GMT
Burger went off injured on Monday, I don’t know but that was the reason he didn’t start today surely? I agree the starting team was poor against Huddersfield but for me he’s showing that he’s learning and willing to adapt and change far more than any of our previous few managers did. He should have started today if he was fit enough to be on the bench. I don’t think he’s learned much but today was good and long May that continue. There’s no reason it shouldn’t. Not necessarily, maybe he was fit enough for 30 minutes but not an hour. You wouldn’t start him to take him off after 30 would you? If he can do 30 why wouldn’t you have him on the bench to come on.
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Post by senojbor on Apr 7, 2024 12:06:20 GMT
We will win on Wednesday and again on Saturday.
Our problem this season has been that we had too many players coming to the club at the same time and it's been difficult for the managers to get it right.
SS seems to be getting a grips with it now.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 7, 2024 14:28:09 GMT
If fit,just play our best 11,in their favoured positions.
No square pegs,
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 7, 2024 14:32:05 GMT
Huge game. Tickets only £21 with free coaches.. snap them up Stokies, you know it makes sense! Sold 600 tickets so far apparently. 7 coaches going......
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 7, 2024 15:30:14 GMT
He should have started today if he was fit enough to be on the bench. I don’t think he’s learned much but today was good and long May that continue. There’s no reason it shouldn’t. Not necessarily, maybe he was fit enough for 30 minutes but not an hour. You wouldn’t start him to take him off after 30 would you? If he can do 30 why wouldn’t you have him on the bench to come on. Why not if he’s one of your better players. Should have started
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Post by jeycov on Apr 7, 2024 15:32:52 GMT
Joe Allen , Josh Tymon with a point to prove?
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 7, 2024 15:46:27 GMT
Tymon went off in the first half yesterday so potentially injured
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Post by blackpoolred on Apr 7, 2024 16:12:02 GMT
We will win on Wednesday and again on Saturday. Our problem this season has been that we had too many players coming to the club at the same time and it's been difficult for the managers to get it right. SS seems to be getting a grips with it now. Wish I had your confidence. Agreed when you look at these 2 games they look like great opportunities for some points. However, we are one of 9 teams who will fill those last 2 relegation slots, that is 8 teams and us - and of those 8 teams we have played 6 of them, so far, on their own patch and have lost 5 and drawn 1. Swansea and Wednesday the last 2 of these 8 teams left for us to play. I said earlier I would be happy with 2 draws here, but would like to think we could win one of them, but I also know we could lose both of these given our form against these type of teams. Our form, on the road, against these sort of teams has to improve at some point, lets hope we are sitting here next week with our safety guaranteed, but this is Stoke and I can't see us rocking up winning these 2 games at a canter and making it easy for us - we will be made to suffer - it's in our pledge of allegiance
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Post by Kingswaystokie on Apr 7, 2024 16:48:57 GMT
He’s not changed it though. And we shouldn’t have been in the losing positions bar for his bad decisions (the whole starting XI against Huddersfield and not starting Burger today). But that is a nice change. The whole club needs ripping apart You Burger went off injured on Monday, I don’t know but that was the reason he didn’t start today surely? I agree the starting team was poor against Huddersfield but for me he’s showing that he’s learning and willing to adapt and change far more than any of our previous few managers did. You really do talk a load of bollocks, " the whole club needs ripping apart " there are blatantly obvious signs things are getting better, coming back into home games, more pressing, more direct, loads more commitment, a decent centre half and a proper 20 goals a season striker and we are a top half team. You just don't like progress you'd have fuck all to moan at.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Apr 7, 2024 16:53:43 GMT
This is the one. They’re in poor form. Fans will be ready to turn. If we get at them early we can win it. Are you taking about Stoke? Or a team that doesn’t hand out gifts for teams in need😉
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Post by lordb on Apr 7, 2024 17:20:28 GMT
We will win on Wednesday and again on Saturday. Our problem this season has been that we had too many players coming to the club at the same time and it's been difficult for the managers to get it right. SS seems to be getting a grips with it now. Wish I had your confidence. Agreed when you look at these 2 games they look like great opportunities for some points. However, we are one of 9 teams who will fill those last 2 relegation slots, that is 8 teams and us - and of those 8 teams we have played 6 of them, so far, on their own patch and have lost 5 and drawn 1. Swansea and Wednesday the last 2 of these 8 teams left for us to play. I said earlier I would be happy with 2 draws here, but would like to think we could win one of them, but I also know we could lose both of these given our form against these type of teams. Our form, on the road, against these sort of teams has to improve at some point, lets hope we are sitting here next week with our safety guaranteed, but this is Stoke and I can't see us rocking up winning these 2 games at a canter and making it easy for us - we will be made to suffer - it's in our pledge of allegiance Think we are in good shape atm, 2 wins more likely than 2 defeats imo However think 2 draws more likely though
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 7, 2024 17:32:27 GMT
Did Manhoef look like he came off with an injury or was it more tiredness? Was defo holding his hammy
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