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Post by biddulphchav on Mar 14, 2024 14:15:41 GMT
Heâs a dick. It was a dickish comment to make, especially on live tv. However, if the comment of a dick thinking heâs funny is all it takes to âeasily end their relationshipâ, then it probably wasnât built on the strongest of foundations anyways. You mean a stunning woman working amongst men in a rather famous and desirable, male dominated environment with other egotistic and probably narcissistic male co-workers speculating they know something or that she may have been tempted by her relatively new found fame to be unfaithful? That foundation is never going to be strong. I'm not sure if you checked the divorce % recently but it's more typical than not to be in a relationship that isn't built on strong foundations.... That alone makes the comment disgusting. You just don't go around insinuating such things, to friends in private or on live TV. This is whatâs wrong with the world now. A very silly joke / off the cuff comment. Very rightly the âvictimâ herself is less offended and has read less into it than you seemingly have.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 14, 2024 14:30:18 GMT
You mean a stunning woman working amongst men in a rather famous and desirable, male dominated environment with other egotistic and probably narcissistic male co-workers speculating they know something or that she may have been tempted by her relatively new found fame to be unfaithful? That foundation is never going to be strong. I'm not sure if you checked the divorce % recently but it's more typical than not to be in a relationship that isn't built on strong foundations.... That alone makes the comment disgusting. You just don't go around insinuating such things, to friends in private or on live TV. This is whatâs wrong with the world now. A very silly joke / off the cuff comment. Very rightly the âvictimâ herself is less offended and has read less into it than you seemingly have. It isn't male dominated and she obviously doesn't seem bothered Good so many are offended on her behalf though You're the one speculating ironically She's ok with it..why aren't you?
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Post by biddulphchav on Mar 14, 2024 14:32:21 GMT
This is whatâs wrong with the world now. A very silly joke / off the cuff comment. Very rightly the âvictimâ herself is less offended and has read less into it than you seemingly have. It isn't male dominated and she obviously doesn't seem bothered Good so many are offended on her behalf though You're the one speculating ironically She's ok with it..why aren't you? Are you replying to me or the other bloke?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 14, 2024 14:33:03 GMT
It isn't male dominated and she obviously doesn't seem bothered Good so many are offended on her behalf though You're the one speculating ironically She's ok with it..why aren't you? Are you replying to me or the other bloke? I don't know The voices in my head I think đ Th
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 14, 2024 16:00:31 GMT
This is whatâs wrong with the world now. A very silly joke / off the cuff comment. Very rightly the âvictimâ herself is less offended and has read less into it than you seemingly have. It isn't male dominated and she obviously doesn't seem bothered Good so many are offended on her behalf though You're the one speculating ironically She's ok with it..why aren't you? The football industry and sport industry is male dominated. You don't know if she's ok with it and nor do I. She has no choice because her only option is to quit her job or start an argument live on TV. If someone says that in front of me about my wife I would be pretty pissed off and question the intent of the comment, not laugh it off as a joke and banter. It's not an acceptable thing to say to anyone. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's pretty close to gaslighting?? People really need to do some research and a bit of reflection. It's like they are living in an alternate reality where people don't get offended and you can just oppress anyone because "that's what I did when I was a lad" etc.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 14, 2024 16:13:55 GMT
Heâs always been a bit of an âopen mouth then engage brainâ type character. Not the brightest thing to say on live tv but the reaction is a bit over the top for me.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 14, 2024 16:28:24 GMT
It isn't male dominated and she obviously doesn't seem bothered Good so many are offended on her behalf though You're the one speculating ironically She's ok with it..why aren't you? The football industry and sport industry is male dominated. You don't know if she's ok with it and nor do I. She has no choice because her only option is to quit her job or start an argument live on TV. If someone says that in front of me about my wife I would be pretty pissed off and question the intent of the comment, not laugh it off as a joke and banter. It's not an acceptable thing to say to anyone. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's pretty close to gaslighting?? People really need to do some research and a bit of reflection. It's like they are living in an alternate reality where people don't get offended and you can just oppress anyone because "that's what I did when I was a lad" etc. It's a male sport she's commentating on. Fancy have males around her If you feel the need to be offended for her then go ahead. She brushed it off and is no big deal . Like I said , why was no one getting all upset about her comment recently? The alternate reality is people having to defend others and get all Mary about nothing . Again, trying to be offended by nothing . Nothing to do with..when I were a lad etc. Not even sure what you're trying to get at there, she's laughed it off but do carry on the crusade for her. She gives as good as she gets it seems
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 14, 2024 16:40:30 GMT
The football industry and sport industry is male dominated. You don't know if she's ok with it and nor do I. She has no choice because her only option is to quit her job or start an argument live on TV. If someone says that in front of me about my wife I would be pretty pissed off and question the intent of the comment, not laugh it off as a joke and banter. It's not an acceptable thing to say to anyone. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's pretty close to gaslighting?? People really need to do some research and a bit of reflection. It's like they are living in an alternate reality where people don't get offended and you can just oppress anyone because "that's what I did when I was a lad" etc. It's a male sport she's commentating on. Fancy have males around her If you feel the need to be offended for her then go ahead. She brushed it off and is no big deal . Like I said , why was no one getting all upset about her comment recently? The alternate reality is people having to defend others and get all Mary about nothing . Again, trying to be offended by nothing . Nothing to do with..when I were a lad etc. Not even sure what you're trying to get at there, she's laughed it off but do carry on the crusade for her. She gives as good as she gets it seems The over reaction here is crazy. It was terrible banter that would still be terrible banter even if it was off camera, where I imagine they all banter away to their hearts content. Carragher is obviously quite thick and lacks the nuance of knowing that saying that on camera is going to get the, permanently offended on others behalf, frothing at the mouth. Storm in a tea cup yet again.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 14, 2024 16:49:02 GMT
It's a male sport she's commentating on. Fancy have males around her If you feel the need to be offended for her then go ahead. She brushed it off and is no big deal . Like I said , why was no one getting all upset about her comment recently? The alternate reality is people having to defend others and get all Mary about nothing . Again, trying to be offended by nothing . Nothing to do with..when I were a lad etc. Not even sure what you're trying to get at there, she's laughed it off but do carry on the crusade for her. She gives as good as she gets it seems The over reaction here is crazy. It was terrible banter that would still be terrible banter even if it was off camera, where I imagine they all banter away to their hearts content. Carragher is obviously quite thick and lacks the nuance of knowing that saying that on camera is going to get the, permanently offended on others behalf, frothing at the mouth. Storm in a tea cup yet again. Absolutely. We saw on here last week again some fella getting easily offended on others behalf and speaking for them as if a spokesperson and getting offended on their behalf . A daft comment, she's laughed it off and some feel the need to make a big issue about it. Like I said, she can joke about liking being sandwiched between two men and is a joke. The am so offended, sack everyone brigade don't take much triggering. I'll take her response to it as how she saw it over the self appointed representatives for her
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 14, 2024 16:54:35 GMT
The over reaction here is crazy. It was terrible banter that would still be terrible banter even if it was off camera, where I imagine they all banter away to their hearts content. Carragher is obviously quite thick and lacks the nuance of knowing that saying that on camera is going to get the, permanently offended on others behalf, frothing at the mouth. Storm in a tea cup yet again. Absolutely. We saw on here last week again some fella getting easily offended on others behalf and speaking for them as if a spokesperson and getting offended on their behalf . A daft comment, she's laughed it off and some feel the need to make a big issue about it. Like I said, she can joke about liking being sandwiched between two men and is a joke. The am so offended, sack everyone brigade don't take much triggering. I'll take her response to it as how she saw it over the self appointed representatives for her The irony being she is probably more irked by the male protectors sticking up for her than she is by carraghers comment. I don't think she seems the type to need knights in shining armour protecting her from below average IQ ex footballers come football pundits. She may even see it as misogynistic....fancy that đ
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Post by desman2 on Mar 14, 2024 16:57:36 GMT
It's a wonder someone hasn't accused him of misogyny. You know, the word thrown around by those who don't actually know what it means
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 14, 2024 17:02:31 GMT
Absolutely. We saw on here last week again some fella getting easily offended on others behalf and speaking for them as if a spokesperson and getting offended on their behalf . A daft comment, she's laughed it off and some feel the need to make a big issue about it. Like I said, she can joke about liking being sandwiched between two men and is a joke. The am so offended, sack everyone brigade don't take much triggering. I'll take her response to it as how she saw it over the self appointed representatives for her The irony being she is probably more irked by the male protectors sticking up for her than she is by carraghers comment. I don't think she seems the type to need knights in shining armour protecting her from below average IQ ex footballers come football pundits. She may even see it as misogynistic....fancy that đ Imagine being able to laugh if off, give it back and move on without needing someone to be fired, someone to stick up for the poor female vulnerable lamb she is and do what she's good at.
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Post by olias on Mar 14, 2024 17:10:55 GMT
Maybe the punditry, and banter, on women's football would be more to her liking.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2024 18:47:55 GMT
Kate Abdo and Laura Woods are both brilliant presenters and are perfect for a male dominated role. They both give as good as they get and would both likely be rolling their eyes at the white knighting over such a comment.
I was honestly expecting something horrific had been said reading this thread before the video!
Respecting others and showing tolerance of others is a success story of the modern generation, the knee jerk, permanently offended type thatâs an ever growing presence is undermining all the hard work.
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Post by NassauDave on Mar 14, 2024 19:09:22 GMT
Eeeeeem yeah like course.
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Post by a on Mar 14, 2024 19:57:42 GMT
It's a male sport she's commentating on. Fancy have males around her If you feel the need to be offended for her then go ahead. She brushed it off and is no big deal . Like I said , why was no one getting all upset about her comment recently? The alternate reality is people having to defend others and get all Mary about nothing . Again, trying to be offended by nothing . Nothing to do with..when I were a lad etc. Not even sure what you're trying to get at there, she's laughed it off but do carry on the crusade for her. She gives as good as she gets it seems The over reaction here is crazy. It was terrible banter that would still be terrible banter even if it was off camera, where I imagine they all banter away to their hearts content. Carragher is obviously quite thick and lacks the nuance of knowing that saying that on camera is going to get the, permanently offended on others behalf, frothing at the mouth. Storm in a tea cup yet again. Couldnât have put it better myself. I think the outrage wouldnât be anything near as much if the genders were reversed. This white knight mentality is often misguided and sometimes unwanted. I wouldnât stand by and let someone make it female get abused in the street but I think his clumsy attempt at a joke was just that. It will be forgotten about next week and as long as Kate has sorted out what has been said and I hope she tore a strip off the gobby clown off air then the world can continue to turn.
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Post by skip on Mar 14, 2024 20:05:01 GMT
How does anyone know what she has said to Carragher off camera? She'd be well within her rights to tear him a new arsehole, and I hope she did, but then owned him live on air with the annoying middle brother skit. Put him right back in his box.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 14, 2024 20:11:05 GMT
Maybe the punditry, and banter, on women's football would be more to her liking. You are aware of the fact that she's had absolutely no problem with this banter and hasnt complained about it at all, aren't you? What a ridiculously ignorant comment. She's been working in football broadcasting for the best part of 20 years. I can guarantee you that she knows far more about the game than you do, given the fact that her footy conversations have been with some of the best and most influential players and managers in the world, rather than you and your mates down the boozer.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 14, 2024 20:24:04 GMT
How does anyone know what she has said to Carragher off camera? She'd be well within her rights to tear him a new arsehole, and I hope she did, but then owned him live on air with the annoying middle brother skit. Put him right back in his box. Best judge what she's said in public herself rather that made up scenarios that make even something more out of nothing
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 14, 2024 20:37:31 GMT
How does anyone know what she has said to Carragher off camera? She'd be well within her rights to tear him a new arsehole, and I hope she did, but then owned him live on air with the annoying middle brother skit. Put him right back in his box. Best judge what she's said in public herself rather that made up scenarios that make even something more out of nothing Kate Abdo can more than look after herself with those 3. She does it literally every episode of their show. The whole thing is basically a couple of hours of the 4 of them ripping the absolute piss out of each other. In fact, if those complaining ever saw an episode (which I can only guess they haven't, they've simply seen this story) they'd probably want Abdo sacked for "bullying" Richards, given the shit she incessantly gives him every single week. Yes, Carragher was out of line but like all mates (and they actually genuinely are in real life. They've all confirmed that on multiple ocassions), you realise it, you apologise for it and then you move on. I don't like Carragher personally but he's not my mate, so it's not me he has to apologise to. If he has to Abdo (as she says he has) and she's accepted it then it's no one else's business. These weren't politcians or spokespeople where you could understand using it as an example to further a cause about treatment of women in the workplace etc. It's up to Abdo to decide that. She's clearly decided it's actually a case of 4 mates doing their usual pisstaking and one going too far. People in general need to stop using other peoples private matters as an excuse to further their own cause, simply because they happen to be famous. They don't get the right to do that if they weren't the subject involved. This is (and always was) nothing more important than any Facebook article simply placed as clickbait and to get people arguing to increase "engagement". She's handled it well and I can put money on it she'll be storing it up and will get her own back on the show at some point.
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 14, 2024 20:56:02 GMT
Best judge what she's said in public herself rather that made up scenarios that make even something more out of nothing Kate Abdo can more than look after herself with those 3. She does it literally every episode of their show. The whole thing is basically a couple of hours of the 4 of them ripping the absolute piss out of each other. In fact, if those complaining ever saw an episode (which I can only guess they haven't, they've simply seen this story) they'd probably want Abdo sacked for "bullying" Richards, given the shit she incessantly gives him every single week. Yes, Carragher was out of line but like all mates (and they actually genuinely are in real life. They've all confirmed that on multiple ocassions), you realise it, you apologise for it and then you move on. I don't like Carragher personally but he's not my mate, so it's not me he has to apologise to. If he has to Abdo (as she says he has) and she's accepted it then it's no one else's business. These weren't politcians or spokespeople where you could understand using it as an example to further a cause about treatment of women in the workplace etc. It's up to Abdo to decide that. She's clearly decided it's actually a case of 4 mates doing their usual pisstaking and one going too far. People in general need to stop using other peoples private matters as an excuse to further their own cause, simply because they happen to be famous. They don't get the right to do that if they weren't the subject involved. This is (and always was) nothing more important than any Facebook article simply placed as clickbait and to get people arguing to increase "engagement". She's handled it well and I can put money on it she'll be storing it up and will get her own back on the show at some point. If you stop condensing it as banter and actually look at it at face value for what it is, an accusation of disloyalty otherwise known as cheating, then you would understand that it's far past the socially acceptable thing to do from role models (on live TV). You don't think that people model themselves on these people, repeat phrases in the pub, at home, with their so called 'mates'? This isn't pushing a cause, and I'm just waiting for some ignorant biggot to use the term 'woke' here...., this is a bunch of people agreeing that it's not decent behaviour of a human being towards another, especially not a 'mate', and said live on TV could cause irreparable damage. The fact that it hasn't is a credit to the lass, but who knows in the future? And no one actually knows whether she is a loyal partner or not (or if it even matters... Polygamy for example). Thank fuck times are changing and we don't have to put up with dick heads and their 'banter' any longer
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 14, 2024 21:00:04 GMT
Kate Abdo can more than look after herself with those 3. She does it literally every episode of their show. The whole thing is basically a couple of hours of the 4 of them ripping the absolute piss out of each other. In fact, if those complaining ever saw an episode (which I can only guess they haven't, they've simply seen this story) they'd probably want Abdo sacked for "bullying" Richards, given the shit she incessantly gives him every single week. Yes, Carragher was out of line but like all mates (and they actually genuinely are in real life. They've all confirmed that on multiple ocassions), you realise it, you apologise for it and then you move on. I don't like Carragher personally but he's not my mate, so it's not me he has to apologise to. If he has to Abdo (as she says he has) and she's accepted it then it's no one else's business. These weren't politcians or spokespeople where you could understand using it as an example to further a cause about treatment of women in the workplace etc. It's up to Abdo to decide that. She's clearly decided it's actually a case of 4 mates doing their usual pisstaking and one going too far. People in general need to stop using other peoples private matters as an excuse to further their own cause, simply because they happen to be famous. They don't get the right to do that if they weren't the subject involved. This is (and always was) nothing more important than any Facebook article simply placed as clickbait and to get people arguing to increase "engagement". She's handled it well and I can put money on it she'll be storing it up and will get her own back on the show at some point. If you stop condensing it as banter and actually look at it at face value for what it is, an accusation of disloyalty otherwise known as cheating, then you would understand that it's far past the socially acceptable thing to do from role models (on live TV). You don't think that people model themselves on these people, repeat phrases in the pub, at home, with their so called 'mates'? This isn't pushing a cause, and I'm just waiting for some ignorant biggot to use the term 'woke' here...., this is a bunch of people agreeing that it's not decent behaviour of a human being towards another, especially not a 'mate', and said live on TV could cause irreparable damage. The fact that it hasn't is a credit to the lass, but who knows in the future? And no one actually knows whether she is a loyal partner or not (or if it even matters... Polygamy for example). Genuine questions: Have you ever watched the show? Have you ever seen Kate Abdo interviewed about her life? Are you Kate Abdo? The first two I'm just interested in. If the answer to the third one is anything apart from "Yes" then you don't get to decide whether or not she is or should be offended. It's not a good look as a man who isn't Kate Abdo to tell a woman who IS Kate Abdo what she should or shouldn't be thinking. This isn't the 1920s anymore. This isn't a case of dickhead males passing sexist things off as banter. These are actually mates with each other, having actual banter with each other. It's the whole reason for the success of their show!! She has said on multiple occasions she enjoys banter and can give as good as she gets. Yes, it was over the line and they have dealt with it themselves, as mates. It's no one else's business. It was unprofessional but not a sackable offence in any way (and believe me, I'd be happy to see Carragher go)
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 14, 2024 21:07:30 GMT
If you stop condensing it as banter and actually look at it at face value for what it is, an accusation of disloyalty otherwise known as cheating, then you would understand that it's far past the socially acceptable thing to do from role models (on live TV). You don't think that people model themselves on these people, repeat phrases in the pub, at home, with their so called 'mates'? This isn't pushing a cause, and I'm just waiting for some ignorant biggot to use the term 'woke' here...., this is a bunch of people agreeing that it's not decent behaviour of a human being towards another, especially not a 'mate', and said live on TV could cause irreparable damage. The fact that it hasn't is a credit to the lass, but who knows in the future? And no one actually knows whether she is a loyal partner or not (or if it even matters... Polygamy for example). Genuine questions: Have you ever watched the show? Have you ever seen Kate Abdo interviewed about her life? Are you Kate Abdo? The first two I'm just interested in. If the answer to the third one is anything apart from "Yes" then you don't get to decide whether or not she is or should be offended. It's not a good look as a man who isn't Kate Abdo to tell a woman who IS Kate Abdo what she should or shouldn't be thinking. This isn't the 1920s anymore. At what point did it say she should be offended? It's like people here decided their own agenda and put it into this context as an unquoted quotation. Genuine question, what did you think carraghers statement suggested? So you think that's an acceptable thing to disclose live on television without the fiance present? And do you think it was right of carraghers to disclose such personal information on a public forum? Privacy is an issue here. Who cares if I'm Kate whoever or not. Did she give permission to disclose such private information? The fiance may well be within grounds to sue, never mind Kate whatever. I would be very interested to know from a legal perspective if that were the case (just to further the point that it is unacceptable what that rat did).
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 14, 2024 21:10:51 GMT
Genuine questions: Have you ever watched the show? Have you ever seen Kate Abdo interviewed about her life? Are you Kate Abdo? The first two I'm just interested in. If the answer to the third one is anything apart from "Yes" then you don't get to decide whether or not she is or should be offended. It's not a good look as a man who isn't Kate Abdo to tell a woman who IS Kate Abdo what she should or shouldn't be thinking. This isn't the 1920s anymore. At what point did it say she should be offended? It's like people here decided their own agenda and put it into this context as an unquoted quotation. Genuine question, what did you think carraghers statement suggested? So you think that's an acceptable thing to disclose live on television without the fiance present? And do you think it was right of carraghers to disclose such personal information on a public forum? Privacy is an issue here. Who cares if I'm Kate whoever or not. Did she give permission to disclose such private information? The fiance may well be within grounds to sue, never mind Kate whatever. I would be very interested to know from a legal perspective if that were the case (just to further the point that it is unacceptable what that rat did). Fuck me, you need to take some valium and touch grass. Sue?? You do know she's not going to read all this and fall in love with you, right? She's fine with it. The Network are fine with it. It's her life and none of your business. End of story.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 14, 2024 21:18:07 GMT
Have either Abdo or Carragher had a Virgin internet box erected near their house recently?
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 14, 2024 21:22:24 GMT
At what point did it say she should be offended? It's like people here decided their own agenda and put it into this context as an unquoted quotation. Genuine question, what did you think carraghers statement suggested? So you think that's an acceptable thing to disclose live on television without the fiance present? And do you think it was right of carraghers to disclose such personal information on a public forum? Privacy is an issue here. Who cares if I'm Kate whoever or not. Did she give permission to disclose such private information? The fiance may well be within grounds to sue, never mind Kate whatever. I would be very interested to know from a legal perspective if that were the case (just to further the point that it is unacceptable what that rat did). Fuck me, you need to take some valium and touch grass. Sue?? You do know she's not going to read all this and fall in love with you, right? She's fine with it. The Network are fine with it. It's her life and none of your business. End of story. This is literally a forum topic discussing the issue as stated and people stating their opinions and thoughts. There is no 'end of story' đ
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 14, 2024 21:27:52 GMT
Fuck me, you need to take some valium and touch grass. Sue?? You do know she's not going to read all this and fall in love with you, right? She's fine with it. The Network are fine with it. It's her life and none of your business. End of story. This is literally a forum topic discussing the issue as stated and people stating their opinions and thoughts. There is no 'end of story' đ
. People think they are far too significant on here. Maybe just basing it on what the actual person involved is doing ...not claiming to speak for her . As far as she's concerned it's end of story.
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 14, 2024 21:28:03 GMT
At what point did it say she should be offended? It's like people here decided their own agenda and put it into this context as an unquoted quotation. Genuine question, what did you think carraghers statement suggested? So you think that's an acceptable thing to disclose live on television without the fiance present? And do you think it was right of carraghers to disclose such personal information on a public forum? Privacy is an issue here. Who cares if I'm Kate whoever or not. Did she give permission to disclose such private information? The fiance may well be within grounds to sue, never mind Kate whatever. I would be very interested to know from a legal perspective if that were the case (just to further the point that it is unacceptable what that rat did). Fuck me, you need to take some valium and touch grass. Sue?? You do know she's not going to read all this and fall in love with you, right? She's fine with it. The Network are fine with it. It's her life and none of your business. End of story. Just to be clear. Only touch the grass if the grass has consented to be touched. We donât need any more drama.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 14, 2024 21:45:57 GMT
Fuck me, you need to take some valium and touch grass. Sue?? You do know she's not going to read all this and fall in love with you, right? She's fine with it. The Network are fine with it. It's her life and none of your business. End of story. This is literally a forum topic discussing the issue as stated and people stating their opinions and thoughts. There is no 'end of story' đ
. People think they are far too significant on here. I don't think I'm "far too significant" at all. What I do think though, is that if as a grown man you're quite literally now inventing fictional scenarios, as to what could/may happen re: legal matters and fiancés now suing people, simply to continue a story that the subject involved herself has said is closed, then you may be a little too invested and need a hobby. The shit you're spoutng aren't "opinions", it's puerile gossip for the sake of it.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 14, 2024 21:52:11 GMT
Fuck me, you need to take some valium and touch grass. Sue?? You do know she's not going to read all this and fall in love with you, right? She's fine with it. The Network are fine with it. It's her life and none of your business. End of story. This is literally a forum topic discussing the issue as stated and people stating their opinions and thoughts. There is no 'end of story' đ
. People think they are far too significant on here. The significant ones are those ignoring what the actual person involved has said and speaking for her
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