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Post by potterpaul on Feb 7, 2024 9:49:54 GMT
I'd consider bringing in Sidibe
Burger Sidibe
Junho
Apart from Junior at RB I've got no idea how to surround that trio.
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Post by idle on Feb 7, 2024 9:51:02 GMT
It's really difficult setting a team up now, with the new lads and the sulkers out in the cold. I'll have a go: .............Iversen............. ...Hoever....McNally....Wilmot... Junior...Cundle...Burger..Meinhof ........Ennis........Bae......... ...............Lowe..............
Maaayyybe swap Leris for Lowe and then put Ennis up front.
or .............Iversen............. Junior....Wilmot...Rose....Hoever .............Burger.............. .........Cundle....Bae........... ..Leris......Ennis......Million..Neither fills me with confidence, but I'm not sure we could do better. Lowe hopefully may be part of our future but he is nowhere near ready for now particularly leading the line in a badly struggling team. I don't disagree, I just don't see any options if Ennis doesn't work as the 9. Some said he'd played as one of the 8s in the 3421-formation where I've put Cundle and Bae.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 7, 2024 9:51:06 GMT
I'd be tempted to start Ennis. He'll be busting a gut to prove their manager wrong - oh, and there's nobody else!
Choosing the 2 centre-backs is a lottery.
Midfield balance doesn't look right, but not sure how we do better , unless you squeeze Thompson in there - then play Bae wide left.
Iversen
Tchamadeu Wilmot McNally Gooch
Burger Bae Baker
Manhoef Ennis Campbell
Then you've got a call between Vidigal and Campbell. I'd probably give Campbell one last go as he's got a goal in him - and Baker for the same reason.
I'm sure he'll go with Cundle as he's decided he's an upgrade, although it's unclear why based on what we've seen so far.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Feb 7, 2024 9:53:08 GMT
I'd be tempted to start Ennis. He'll be busting a gut to prove their manager wrong - oh, and there's nobody else! Choosing the 2 centre-backs is a lottery. Midfield balance doesn't look right, but not sure how we do better , unless you squeeze Thompson in there - then play Bae wide left. Iversen Tchamadeu Wilmot McNally Gooch Burger Bae Baker Mainhof Ennis Campbell Then you've got a call between Vidigal and Campbell. I'd probably give Campbell one last go as he's got a goal in him - and Baker for the same reason. I'm sure he'll go with Cundle as he's decided he's an upgrade, although it's unclear why based on what we've seen so far. That’s exactly how I’d be going. You just can’t see him dropping his lap dog Cundle though!
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Post by idle on Feb 7, 2024 9:55:32 GMT
I'd be tempted to start Ennis. He'll be busting a gut to prove their manager wrong - oh, and there's nobody else! Choosing the 2 centre-backs is a lottery. Midfield balance doesn't look right, but not sure how we do better , unless you squeeze Thompson in there - then play Bae wide left. Iversen Tchamadeu Wilmot McNally Gooch Burger Bae Baker Mainhof Ennis Campbell Then you've got a call between Vidigal and Campbell. I'd probably give Campbell one last go as he's got a goal in him - and Baker for the same reason. I'm sure he'll go with Cundle as he's decided he's an upgrade, although it's unclear why based on what we've seen so far. Campbell has looked absolute thrash on the left though, I'd swap him and Million. At least he could get past a man.
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 7, 2024 10:25:24 GMT
I'd be tempted to start Ennis. He'll be busting a gut to prove their manager wrong - oh, and there's nobody else! Choosing the 2 centre-backs is a lottery. Midfield balance doesn't look right, but not sure how we do better , unless you squeeze Thompson in there - then play Bae wide left. Iversen Tchamadeu Wilmot McNally Gooch Burger Bae Baker Mainhof Ennis Campbell Then you've got a call between Vidigal and Campbell. I'd probably give Campbell one last go as he's got a goal in him - and Baker for the same reason. I'm sure he'll go with Cundle as he's decided he's an upgrade, although it's unclear why based on what we've seen so far. Campbell has looked absolute thrash on the left though, I'd swap him and Million. At least he could get past a man. Problem with Million and Campbell is they're both left-footed. I would think right now, Million has more cutting edge than Campbell does, so I would rather Million goes on the right. However, I don't think Campbell is much good at crossing a ball, which is why I'd rather have one of Vidigal or Haksabanovic on the left, so that they can cut in on their right foot.
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Post by idle on Feb 7, 2024 10:27:46 GMT
Campbell has looked absolute thrash on the left though, I'd swap him and Million. At least he could get past a man. Problem with Million and Campbell is they're both left-footed. I would think right now, Million has more cutting edge than Campbell does, so I would rather Million goes on the right. However, I don't think Campbell is much good at crossing a ball, which is why I'd rather have one of Vidigal or Haksabanovic on the left, so that they can cut in on their right foot. I agree with that. Campbell doesn't really seem that interested anyway, so better to use Vidi (if he could just drop the silly theatrics). Does he have the work rate though? Campbell doesn't.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 7, 2024 10:28:52 GMT
It's really difficult setting a team up now, with the new lads and the sulkers out in the cold. I'll have a go: .............Iversen............. ...Hoever....McNally....Wilmot... Junior...Cundle...Burger..Meinhof ........Ennis........Bae......... ...............Lowe..............
Maaayyybe swap Leris for Lowe and then put Ennis up front.
or .............Iversen............. Junior....Wilmot...Rose....Hoever .............Burger.............. .........Cundle....Bae........... ..Leris......Ennis......Million..Neither fills me with confidence, but I'm not sure we could do better. Without even looking at your proposed lineups the snazzy presentation of them gets top marks from me 👍
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 7, 2024 10:32:46 GMT
It's really difficult setting a team up now, with the new lads and the sulkers out in the cold. I'll have a go: .............Iversen............. ...Hoever....McNally....Wilmot... Junior...Cundle...Burger..Meinhof ........Ennis........Bae......... ...............Lowe..............
Maaayyybe swap Leris for Lowe and then put Ennis up front.
or .............Iversen............. Junior....Wilmot...Rose....Hoever .............Burger.............. .........Cundle....Bae........... ..Leris......Ennis......Million..Neither fills me with confidence, but I'm not sure we could do better. Without even looking at your proposed lineups the snazzy presentation of them gets top marks from me 👍 Any team with cundle and bae as 2 eights gers completely overrun in this league as per Sunderland it why cundle was a totally uncessary acquisition
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Post by idle on Feb 7, 2024 10:37:01 GMT
Without even looking at your proposed lineups the snazzy presentation of them gets top marks from me 👍 Any team with cundle and bae as 2 eights gers completely overrun in this league as per Sunderland it why cundle was a totally uncessary acquisition Trouble is, Baker doesn't have the work rate, Thompson/Pearson are too defensive, and the 8ers need to be tracking back. We could try Leris there of course, but I don't think he has the football smartness for a central role. Thompson in the pivot role and Burger as an 8 could work, but I don't think JT is good enough for a role that central to how we play.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 7, 2024 10:56:23 GMT
Without even looking at your proposed lineups the snazzy presentation of them gets top marks from me 👍 Any team with cundle and bae as 2 eights gers completely overrun in this league as per Sunderland it why cundle was a totally uncessary acquisition Read my post Benjy lad please. I didn't mention anything about the lineups did I? I merely pointed out that the presentation of them was snazzy and gets top marks from me. Find someone else to jump on your train of doom and despair.
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Post by lordb on Feb 7, 2024 11:05:37 GMT
Blackburn lose a lot of home games like us should be two nervous sides
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Post by etebojan on Feb 7, 2024 11:12:08 GMT
Without even looking at your proposed lineups the snazzy presentation of them gets top marks from me 👍 Any team with cundle and bae as 2 eights gers completely overrun in this league as per Sunderland it why cundle was a totally uncessary acquisition The second of those but maybe swapping Baker in for Cundle, so you've got decent shots from range + the best penalty and freekick taker on the pitch
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Post by moon on Feb 7, 2024 11:14:21 GMT
.............Iversen............. Junior...McNally...Rose....Hoever .............Pearson............. .......Cundle....Burger.......... ....Bae......Ennis......Manhoef..
Or Thompson for Pearson, Baker/Bae for Cundle, and Leris / Campbell / Vidigal as one of the wide forwards.
So long as we don't see Thompson at LB and Gooch in the front 3 I'm not too worried.
I'm not a fan of Burger playing as the DM, I'd rather Pearson/Thompson.
I can see Schumacher playing Thompson at LB though, Burger as the slightly defensive midfielder alongside two more attacking options, but I expect we'll see a similar outcome to the previous two games if so - where we're overrun in midfield and the fullbacks are massively exposed.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 7, 2024 11:48:25 GMT
I'd play Baker instead of Cundle and it's a shame to put Bae out on the wing but needs must.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 7, 2024 11:50:42 GMT
We are in a right mess aren't we,no matter what team we put out,there are far too many weaknesses throughout the team.
Our only hope is the opposition have a very poor off day.
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 7, 2024 11:57:12 GMT
Any team with cundle and bae as 2 eights gers completely overrun in this league as per Sunderland it why cundle was a totally uncessary acquisition The second of those but maybe swapping Baker in for Cundle, so you've got decent shots from range + the best penalty and freekick taker on the pitch I would have Baker in ahead of Cundle any day of the week. I suppose Schuey likes Cundle because he moves the ball forward lots, but he doesn't do much with it once it's in the last third. Baker is stronger, beats his man better, recovers the ball more and ultimately, shoots on goal more and creates more chances. He should definitely be one of the 8s alongside Jun-ho.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Feb 7, 2024 12:04:27 GMT
Iversen Junior Wilmot Rose Gooch Thompson Bae Burger Campbell Ennis Million
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 7, 2024 12:10:00 GMT
Might have a let off, heavy snow forecast in that area, so possibility of match being called off?.Would be a shame as we are taking a magnificent away following.
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 7, 2024 12:10:35 GMT
Iverson
Tchamadeu McNally Rose Gooch
Burger Cundle Baker
Million Ennis Junho
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Post by idle on Feb 7, 2024 12:15:02 GMT
The second of those but maybe swapping Baker in for Cundle, so you've got decent shots from range + the best penalty and freekick taker on the pitch I would have Baker in ahead of Cundle any day of the week. I suppose Schuey likes Cundle because he moves the ball forward lots, but he doesn't do much with it once it's in the last third. Baker is stronger, beats his man better, recovers the ball more and ultimately, shoots on goal more and creates more chances. He should definitely be one of the 8s alongside Jun-ho. Interesting, as I see Cundle having way better work rate, puts himself in and around the action more and is more available for passes. Baker is stronger and a far better shooter, but I disagree he recovers the ball better or creates more chances. He's created very few that I've seen. Opinions, eh?
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Post by Wizbit on Feb 7, 2024 12:23:10 GMT
I would have Baker in ahead of Cundle any day of the week. I suppose Schuey likes Cundle because he moves the ball forward lots, but he doesn't do much with it once it's in the last third. Baker is stronger, beats his man better, recovers the ball more and ultimately, shoots on goal more and creates more chances. He should definitely be one of the 8s alongside Jun-ho. Interesting, as I see Cundle having way better work rate, puts himself in and around the action more and is more available for passes. Baker is stronger and a far better shooter, but I disagree he recovers the ball better or creates more chances. He's created very few that I've seen. Opinions, eh? I agree idle... The amount of forward runs cundle makes but no one spots is insane.... He knows the schumacher way of playing the others are almost always thinking sideways especially hoever
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 7, 2024 12:30:32 GMT
Interesting, as I see Cundle having way better work rate, puts himself in and around the action more and is more available for passes. Baker is stronger and a far better shooter, but I disagree he recovers the ball better or creates more chances. He's created very few that I've seen. Opinions, eh? I agree idle... The amount of forward runs cundle makes but no one spots is insane.... He knows the schumacher way of playing the others are almost always thinking sideways especially hoever Then if he’s not effective and doesn’t gel with the team, why play him?
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Post by mattythestokie on Feb 7, 2024 12:36:55 GMT
Think bringing Thompson into the middle might help us.
Iversen
Tchamadeu McNally Rose Gooch
Thompson Burger Bae
Campbell Ennis Million
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Post by wakeypotter on Feb 7, 2024 12:51:12 GMT
I'd be tempted to start Ennis. He'll be busting a gut to prove their manager wrong - oh, and there's nobody else! Choosing the 2 centre-backs is a lottery. Midfield balance doesn't look right, but not sure how we do better , unless you squeeze Thompson in there - then play Bae wide left. Iversen Tchamadeu Wilmot McNally Gooch Burger Bae Baker Manhoef Ennis Campbell Then you've got a call between Vidigal and Campbell. I'd probably give Campbell one last go as he's got a goal in him - and Baker for the same reason. I'm sure he'll go with Cundle as he's decided he's an upgrade, although it's unclear why based on what we've seen so far. I’d agree with that lineup but currently rose is our best centre half (I know unbelievable really) I seem to think though before Wilmots injury was that the best partnership?
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Post by idle on Feb 7, 2024 12:53:23 GMT
I agree idle... The amount of forward runs cundle makes but no one spots is insane.... He knows the schumacher way of playing the others are almost always thinking sideways especially hoever Then if he’s not effective and doesn’t gel with the team, why play him? Because he plays the way the manager want us to? It's the others that need to adapt, it's their job!
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 7, 2024 13:00:50 GMT
Baker absolutely doesn't recover the ball more, in fact he is as weak as piss in the tackle and by and large contributes little, apart from his shooting ability in and around the box. I agree with the comment about Cundle, he makes so many good runs that go largely unnoticed. Will be interesting how he links up with Junior 🤞.
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Post by Wizbit on Feb 7, 2024 13:06:18 GMT
Then if he’s not effective and doesn’t gel with the team, why play him? Because he plays the way the manager want us to? It's the others that need to adapt, it's their job! Yes agreed it's the changing of mindset of the others... Unfortunately we're a bit top heavy on players who think they are too good to put a shift in
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 7, 2024 13:06:26 GMT
I would have Baker in ahead of Cundle any day of the week. I suppose Schuey likes Cundle because he moves the ball forward lots, but he doesn't do much with it once it's in the last third. Baker is stronger, beats his man better, recovers the ball more and ultimately, shoots on goal more and creates more chances. He should definitely be one of the 8s alongside Jun-ho. Interesting, as I see Cundle having way better work rate, puts himself in and around the action more and is more available for passes. Baker is stronger and a far better shooter, but I disagree he recovers the ball better or creates more chances. He's created very few that I've seen. Opinions, eh? To be fair, I am referring more to the Baker under MON than the bit-part player we saw under Neil and a little more under Schuey. If he can recapture that form, he's a shoe-in. I agree though, Cundle is very dynamic and he's always on the end of a pass to help carry it further into the opponent's third. If we start Ennis and Million, then I'd be up for seeing Cundle start as one of the 8s to see if his pace and energy is on the same wavelength as that of Million and Ennis. If so, we could see some end product to Cundle's work rate.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Feb 7, 2024 13:26:12 GMT
I was surprised a few people disagreed with me when I said I hated managers immediately signing ex-players on the Cundle thread.
The situation has turned out to be exactly as I expected so far, almost a carbon copy of the Johnson/Neil relationship. If he starts against Blackburn then it's a big concern over Schuey, especially after that rancid team selection last week.
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