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Post by Roger Everyone on Jan 19, 2024 12:20:42 GMT
Bored of this story now, gets dragged back onto the board every so often.
Must a quiet day on the football news front.
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Post by skip on Jan 19, 2024 12:22:56 GMT
If Shawcross was sent off for his own protection what does that say about the Arsenal players - as demonstrated by Fabrigas (twat) later in the game.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 19, 2024 12:23:38 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if Wenger was glad something like this happened,it gave him a big stick to beat Stoke with,with the media.
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Jan 19, 2024 12:34:08 GMT
Heard the crack in the visitors end , what a lying stupid prick This. I was in the Tile Mountain stand - much closer to where it happened and pretty much infront of me. There was no sound.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 19, 2024 12:44:08 GMT
I heard no snap from the Boothen end. What I did see was our Ryan almost in tears distraught while Whelan rushed to help Ramsay all whilst the Arsenal players crowded the ref to try to get Ryan sent off. The only wankers that day wore Arsenal shirts alongside their French twat of a manager who for once saw the whole thing happen. Horrible club.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 19, 2024 12:51:02 GMT
Be interesting to see what VAR would have made of it now. The contact happened as Shawcross was a fraction late because he was pulled back by a cheating Arsenal twat whilst he was committed to the challenge. Had this not happened he would’ve arrived earlier and no drama. If anything VAR would show it as a foul on Shawcross. Arsenal lot are right up there, but just edge it over Liverpool, in the victim states. Exactly, Shawcross was a fraction late due to being pulled back by an Arsenal player, this coupled with Ramsey lunging & getting his studs caught in the turf lead to an unfortunate accident... And lets not forget the real disgusting tackle in that game, the one towards the end of the match when the ball was harmlessly rolling out of play near the dugouts & that cunt Fabregas sprinted half the length of the pitch to make a vile two-footed lunge right through the back of Danny Pugh with the sole intention of trying to injure him. That assault from Fabrecunt was cowardly. Funny how the Arsenal troglodytes conveniently forget that one of their heroes did that. It's almost like 99.9% weren't even watching the game, let alone be there at The Brit. Proper arseholes the lot of them.
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Post by ihaveadream on Jan 19, 2024 13:01:41 GMT
It's times like this I'm proud to be a Stoke supporter. Forget sending asylum seekers to Rwanda, it should be Arsenal fans we send out there. I don't think that's fair to other Rwanda residents
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Post by ihaveadream on Jan 19, 2024 13:05:40 GMT
If Arsenal have different ears to everyone else do they look like Yoda?
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 19, 2024 13:08:09 GMT
Arnt I right in saying it is the only league game they won in 10 attempts on our patch. And if my memory is right they scored late on to win also
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 19, 2024 13:18:04 GMT
I detest that club with a passion,the club and their scum supporters deserve each other,they are both rotten to the core.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 19, 2024 13:20:09 GMT
Let's be honest, the fans are as precious as the darling players
Anyone who complains about being bullied shouldn't be playing competitive sport
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Post by lagwafis on Jan 19, 2024 13:40:19 GMT
meanwhile...
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jan 19, 2024 13:48:25 GMT
If Shawcross was sent off for his own protection what does that say about the Arsenal players - as demonstrated by Fabrigas (twat) later in the game. Was that when he wiped out Pugh? (One of the most inoffensive & unconfrontational players we've had,or was that a later game?
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Post by insect on Jan 19, 2024 13:55:40 GMT
And to be honest I don’t even think it was clumsy as they say in this clip. 50/50 challenge all day long for me
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 19, 2024 21:30:42 GMT
I saw that game and the incident on telly. I replayed it at least a dozen times and could not see any intent by Shawcross to hurt or injure Ramsey. I didn't see reckless play and certainly not violent play. Seemed more a matter of an unfortunate outcome for a contested ball between too very fit young men. In all honesty, I didn't see an obvious red card (but not for me to judge). And thought that it was good to get Shawcross off the pitch. The injury was horrific and Shawcross was gutted that he had inflicted it, showing his decency. Horrible situation for both players. I didn't like Arsene Wenger's reaction to the incident then or later. I was very happy to see Ramsey's recovery and return to fitness. There was a picture on here I think a few years ago which was a freeze frame of where Shawcross and Ramsey were in the split seconds and it was proven Ramsey jumped in on Shawcross. Weirdly with VAR I think Ramsey would have been sent off for a dirty uncontrolled tackle. His leg break was his fault. come on now
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 19, 2024 21:49:46 GMT
It was a reckless challenge and a red card. It happens, no bad intent but in his commitment to get to the ball first he went in with excessive force - Bendtner's tug definitely worsened the situation but it can't be used as an excuse.
I think the immediate angry reaction of some of the Arse lot was, in the context of having had two other recent high-profile leg-breaks, understandable. Misguided maybe but understandable in the heat and emotion of the moment. That includes the on-pitch reaction and some of the immediate interviews.
What was absolutely unforgiveable was the prolonged demonisation of Ryan - at the end of the day a young lad who was visibly devastated by what had happened - by Wenger and some high-profile Arsenal fans, making out that he was some sort of vicious animal who'd been hyped up to go out and hurt them. Load of bullcrap which doesn't reflect well on them.
My first ever interaction with a "celeb" on Twitter was over this, a spat with Dara O'Briain, who wrote a characteristically pompous piece about the "sanctimony" of defending Shawcross' character when he'd just broken someone's leg - O'Briain admitted in the course of our conversation that he hadn't even seen the incident.
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Post by Marc01 on Jan 19, 2024 21:55:16 GMT
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 19, 2024 22:20:04 GMT
It was a reckless challenge and a red card. It happens, no bad intent but in his commitment to get to the ball first he went in with excessive force - Bendtner's tug definitely worsened the situation but it can't be used as an excuse. I think the immediate angry reaction of some of the Arse lot was, in the context of having had two other recent high-profile leg-breaks, understandable. Misguided maybe but understandable in the heat and emotion of the moment. That includes the on-pitch reaction and some of the immediate interviews. What was absolutely unforgiveable was the prolonged demonisation of Ryan - at the end of the day a young lad who was visibly devastated by what had happened - by Wenger and some high-profile Arsenal fans, making out that he was some sort of vicious animal who'd been hyped up to go out and hurt them. Load of bullcrap which doesn't reflect well on them. My first ever interaction with a "celeb" on Twitter was over this, a spat with Dara O'Briain, who wrote a characteristically pompous piece about the "sanctimony" of defending Shawcross' character when he'd just broken someone's leg - O'Briain admitted in the course of our conversation that he hadn't even seen the incident. Bentners tug has to play a part in this, I'm sick to death of all this but there are many factors in this that make it, it was horrible, I was in a box that day with 2 Arsenal fans and at the time they were saying it was a strong but fair challenge then they got word it was serious for Ramsey but they still maintain it wasn't that bad.
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Post by dano75 on Jan 19, 2024 23:05:37 GMT
🤣🤣🤣🤣 great title 👏🏻👏🏻
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 19, 2024 23:11:03 GMT
It was a reckless challenge and a red card. It happens, no bad intent but in his commitment to get to the ball first he went in with excessive force - Bendtner's tug definitely worsened the situation but it can't be used as an excuse. I think the immediate angry reaction of some of the Arse lot was, in the context of having had two other recent high-profile leg-breaks, understandable. Misguided maybe but understandable in the heat and emotion of the moment. That includes the on-pitch reaction and some of the immediate interviews. What was absolutely unforgiveable was the prolonged demonisation of Ryan - at the end of the day a young lad who was visibly devastated by what had happened - by Wenger and some high-profile Arsenal fans, making out that he was some sort of vicious animal who'd been hyped up to go out and hurt them. Load of bullcrap which doesn't reflect well on them. My first ever interaction with a "celeb" on Twitter was over this, a spat with Dara O'Briain, who wrote a characteristically pompous piece about the "sanctimony" of defending Shawcross' character when he'd just broken someone's leg - O'Briain admitted in the course of our conversation that he hadn't even seen the incident. Bentners tug has to play a part in this, I'm sick to death of all this but there are many factors in this that make it, it was horrible, I was in a box that day with 2 Arsenal fans and at the time they were saying it was a strong but fair challenge then they got word it was serious for Ramsey but they still maintain it wasn't that bad. I think my exact words were Get up yo Arsenal P*** Then I saw the others players reaction Delap said the ref told him wasn't going to book him even until he saw the injury but felt like he had no option to send Shawcross off Remember that challenge on Delap himself that broke his leg ? Was deliberate but the way the two clubs conducted themselves afterwards was so different
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Post by telfordstokie on Jan 20, 2024 6:59:01 GMT
It was a clumsy tackle that was always going to get a red given the injury that happened. But watch the videos back and for me it is very clear Ryan was going for the ball and there was no intent to injure, let alone break his leg.
Remember very clearly that Ramsey was given a standing ovation by everyone in the ground that night as he was taken off on the stretcher - that’s been written out of history by Arsenal fans to pretend there was some kind of celebratory party going on about what happened. The rest of the game was played in a really weird muted atmosphere as everyone was processing it.
I know emotions were running high but Wenger lit a fire under the whole thing afterwards with his disgraceful comments in the post-match interview.
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Post by glpotter on Jan 20, 2024 7:21:47 GMT
I hope they read this message board, if so..:
Fuck them and fuck Aaron Ramsey
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 20, 2024 8:23:08 GMT
After a couple of years am I right in thinking that Chris Coleman, then Wales manager was thinking of trying to persuade Ryan to play for Wales, he consulted Ramsay who said he wouldn't be welcome, then Coleman shared it with the media
I might be wrong but fuck me talk about lunatics running the asylum
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Post by satoshi on Jan 20, 2024 8:30:47 GMT
Ryan just isn’t that sort of player. For how commanding he was he hasn’t got a bad bone in his body.
Anyway, fuck arsenal and fuck Ramsey. Pathetic perpetual whining victims who are fucking up the premier league title race again.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 20, 2024 8:34:57 GMT
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Post by HarryTheHat on Jan 20, 2024 12:21:10 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jan 20, 2024 12:37:41 GMT
I don't really care about getting promoted but if it meant we could play Arsenal every week I'd sell my soul for it.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 20, 2024 12:42:48 GMT
It was a reckless challenge and a red card. It happens, no bad intent but in his commitment to get to the ball first he went in with excessive force - Bendtner's tug definitely worsened the situation but it can't be used as an excuse. I think the immediate angry reaction of some of the Arse lot was, in the context of having had two other recent high-profile leg-breaks, understandable. Misguided maybe but understandable in the heat and emotion of the moment. That includes the on-pitch reaction and some of the immediate interviews. What was absolutely unforgiveable was the prolonged demonisation of Ryan - at the end of the day a young lad who was visibly devastated by what had happened - by Wenger and some high-profile Arsenal fans, making out that he was some sort of vicious animal who'd been hyped up to go out and hurt them. Load of bullcrap which doesn't reflect well on them. My first ever interaction with a "celeb" on Twitter was over this, a spat with Dara O'Briain, who wrote a characteristically pompous piece about the "sanctimony" of defending Shawcross' character when he'd just broken someone's leg - O'Briain admitted in the course of our conversation that he hadn't even seen the incident. No more reckless than Ramsay was and a split second in it. I can't remember the match on Sky the other week and a similar thing happened. Two players launched into a 50:50 challenge in an identical way. The one who was a split second late was sent off. I just don't get it. Either ban those challenges totally and send both off or accept that one is going to get there first but there is nothing the other one can do to stop momentum.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 20, 2024 12:53:40 GMT
With the play acting Arse were known for at the time, I remember 2 clear dives V West Brom for pens in one game and Saka in particular these days, hard for a ref to tell when a player was genuinely injured.
In the game v France, he lost possession for the winning goal trying to win a free kick, the ref was wise to him and ignored one earlier . He still does it when under pressure. Makes it harder for refs when a player genuinely is hurt. Saka, Wilson and Sterling the 3 worst player in the Prem for me at throwing themselves on the floor.
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