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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 18, 2024 13:01:27 GMT
Which is the financially responsible thing to do - the club should be able to run itself and not be reliant on a constant stream of external money whether in the form of a gift or debt the club can't afford to pay off. It also confirms what I've been saying about there being a limit to how much the owners will invest if FFP were to be scrapped - even if Peter and John are reluctant to turn off the tap someone at Bet366 will do it for them. It's better than out of control spending which ends up dragging your club to very bad places yes, I agree. We've all seen what that's done to other clubs. It's an owner's obvious prerogative as to how much they want to invest in the first place. Under the current FFP structure, it's madness to try to get into the Top 6 financially and doing it with the ability to "recruit only diamonds" obviously isn't going to happen when you're competing with a top 6 that can simply hoover up talent and out-bid you when it suits them. You can hope for the Leicester Miracle season, but to expect it year in /year out is delusional. Don't think the Coates are going to fall for that, in my opinion - they are trying to set the club up so that it WILL BE AROUND in the future. They've made many obvious mistakes, but I still think we're lucky to have them as owners. The gulf between the haves and have nots in the PL is obvious - there's no parity. If you're going to stay up there and be competitive, you have to spend, but you can do it semi-wisely and do what we did for all those years. I wasn't "disappointed" with the 9th places and damned sure didn't EXPECT us to lock into the Top 6 permanently. If the Coates hadn't limited spending during our time in the PL just look at the FFP mess we would have been in after relegation. My only critique (WITH HINDSIGHT) is that they probably could have kept us up there, but we signed stupid players, ridiculous managers and reaped the stupid rewards. Forget Top 6, that's how everybody gets into trouble. It's spending levels in that Top 6 that drive up costs for the whole pyramid . That league is set up like segregation was. You can play around all you want, but stay away from the "Big House" or you'll get the strap. Let the Big 6 go ahead and join that stupid "Super" League - they eventually will anyway. I can't stand any of those teams. But unless they change the current structure, I fear it'll only create a NEW Big 6 with even more irritating members. I STILL maintain that any financial rules should be related to a clubs DEBT. Because it's DEBT in the end that kills you. That's why I'm learning not to freak out about league position until you're near either the relegation spots or conversely the play-off spots. It's more about HOW the team plays together or not for me. I take it a game at a time, just like when I played sports. Looking too far forward gets your arse beat. Until they change something with FFP this is where we're stuck. And no, even with FFP completely lifted, I don't think we can expect our owners to spend on the same level as Man City etc. The "life cycle" of these top players isn't long enough to justify $200 million, just look at that mess with Neymar and PSG. (Speaking of player salary-inflation) Unless that player singlehandedly is bringing you 200 million in revenue (Which I'm sure he didn't) then you're in a losing proposition just on one player. Stretch that over 25 players and you have a future in bankruptcy court if you have just one bad year. for all the stick our owners get on here, at least they aren't stupid enough to fall for THAT trap. Pretty much the way I see it as well.
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Post by baconburger on Jan 18, 2024 14:10:39 GMT
Not sure what I think about that or even what you're advocating. Getting into the premier league then settling on avoiding relegation every season doesn't seem a very appetising thought to me but we did have that period where although we never broke into the top six everything about our club was aspirational. I actually thought going to every game that we might win. I expected to enjoy the football we played. I was watching players of a calibre I'd never dreamed of playing for Stoke. Was that good enough, you bet it was.
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