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Post by moon on Jan 11, 2024 12:32:28 GMT
It looks alright (assuming you manage to get enough users to provide some discussion), but I'm left wondering what it offer that this forum doesn't - with an adblocker I don't see any ads here anyway.
What I think is lacking compared to the days of rivals, is a forum where you can register once and quickly switch between clubs and get a bit of discussion with fans of multiple clubs, at least if I was motivated enough to build a forum that's what I'd be going for.
Offering effectively the same feature set as here, but with different styling and less users isn't really much of a reason to switch over.
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Post by pottersonline on Jan 11, 2024 12:36:11 GMT
It looks alright (assuming you manage to get enough users to provide some discussion), but I'm left wondering what it offer that this forum doesn't - with an adblocker I don't see any ads here anyway. What I think is lacking compared to the days of rivals, is a forum where you can register once and quickly switch between clubs and get a bit of discussion with fans of multiple clubs, at least if I was motivated enough to build a forum that's what I'd be going for. Offering effectively the same feature set as here, but with different styling and less users isn't really much of a reason to switch over. Appreciate the feedback, all noted
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Post by keasie1863 on Jan 11, 2024 12:42:18 GMT
Crikey, it was only a friendly "let you know we're here" post. Please feel free to remove it, admin, it was never an intention to start any form of us and them, we're all Stoke fans aren't we? I just thought it may be of interest to some who may want a more modern forum experience, if it's not then it's absolutely fine, we mean no malice! We are a little different, in the fact that we use paid forum software (Xenforo), we are privately hosted on a dedicated server not by a 3rd party, and as such we can offer features and improved usability that unfortunately aren't possible here due to it being hosted by a 3rd party. Things are new and they will evolve as time goes on, these things don't happen overnight. Thanks for your time, I will leave you in peace I welcome the new addition ,registered and using the site,looks good to me.i especially enjoyed watching the full coverage of the Peterborough semi final,I was there that night.well done keep going đ
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Post by ohbottom on Jan 11, 2024 12:45:50 GMT
Iâll be sure to keep having a look. The technical details of the differences are a bit beyond me. I do like the fact that I get a notification when I get a reply. How do you intend to moderate the site compared to this one ie more strictly or less compared to this one? You may have noticed that we don't specifically have a set of rules, my hope is that it self moderates and people can be reasonable with each other, I appreciate that there will be times when things need action but we cross those bridges when we get to them. I don't want to get into loads on here it's disrespectful but you're welcome to drop me a message if you want to discuss in more detail. For the record I am currently working on links directory that will link to other Stoke related sites, here, other forums, podcasts etc etc it's not a one way street, I want people to be able to find whatever works for them to get their SCFC fix, we're not precious about numbers or being the biggest, there is more than enough for everywhere to thrive. I hope in time it becomes a link to all things SCFC, we're hoping to build community over statistics which is why we are self funded (me) and don't run things like google ads. Ha! Good luck with that, mate!
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Post by baconburger on Jan 11, 2024 12:47:52 GMT
It looks alright (assuming you manage to get enough users to provide some discussion), but I'm left wondering what it offer that this forum doesn't - with an adblocker I don't see any ads here anyway. What I think is lacking compared to the days of rivals, is a forum where you can register once and quickly switch between clubs and get a bit of discussion with fans of multiple clubs, at least if I was motivated enough to build a forum that's what I'd be going for. Offering effectively the same feature set as here, but with different styling and less users isn't really much of a reason to switch over. I think rivals was moderated much more lightly. An explanation of any censorship or punishment would be a vast improvement and an appeals process or at least dialogue before action is taken. Warnings and opportunities to delete or edit any content deemed inappropriate.
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Post by flea79 on Jan 11, 2024 13:54:31 GMT
instead of fuck off up the vale then we can now say fuck off up the potters-online then!!!
doesnt quite have the same ring does it
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Post by moon on Jan 11, 2024 14:01:43 GMT
It looks alright (assuming you manage to get enough users to provide some discussion), but I'm left wondering what it offer that this forum doesn't - with an adblocker I don't see any ads here anyway. What I think is lacking compared to the days of rivals, is a forum where you can register once and quickly switch between clubs and get a bit of discussion with fans of multiple clubs, at least if I was motivated enough to build a forum that's what I'd be going for. Offering effectively the same feature set as here, but with different styling and less users isn't really much of a reason to switch over. I think rivals was moderated much more lightly. An explanation of any censorship or punishment would be a vast improvement and an appeals process or at least dialogue before action is taken. Warnings and opportunities to delete or edit any content deemed inappropriate. True, the internet has changed quite a bit in the last 20+ years though!
An appeals process would make sense, perhaps what is needed first is clear guidelines though and moderation with different levels (yellow card, red card), at certain levels notifying the offender and asking them to amend (and apologise in some cases) could work, but in other cases a red card and a ban is necessary.
Moderation feels like a job for AI.
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Post by baconburger on Jan 11, 2024 14:16:32 GMT
I think rivals was moderated much more lightly. An explanation of any censorship or punishment would be a vast improvement and an appeals process or at least dialogue before action is taken. Warnings and opportunities to delete or edit any content deemed inappropriate. True, the internet has changed quite a bit in the last 20+ years though!
An appeals process would make sense, perhaps what is needed first is clear guidelines though and moderation with different levels (yellow card, red card), at certain levels notifying the offender and asking them to amend (and apologise in some cases) could work, but in other cases a red card and a ban is necessary.
Moderation feels like a job for AI.
Yeah obviously if they just chuck you off you can't even communicate with admin to argue your case or offer to delete/edit the offending text. In other cases they allow people to be outright offensive and then when you respond in what is in your opinion a like manner they punish you and not the original perpetrator/instigator. I'm not sure AI would consider context either. To my mind it would have to be something pretty horrific for a total ban/account deactivation to be proportionate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2024 16:19:53 GMT
Good luck Might be worth looking into an SSL certificate if you donât have one already? Getting the site not secure icon in my browser when I go on it, which would be a barrier to me signing up in terms of personal details being added. Thanks, looks like we will need it It has one, maybe need the https:// in-front Ah fair, in which case you might want to set up a redirect for the www. To make sure it goes to . hah, but hopefully it all goes well!
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Post by skip on Jan 11, 2024 17:16:38 GMT
Hope this is ok to post! Just wanted to drop a link to something a bit different, paid software, privately hosted no takeover adds, fully secured All welcome - Typo: Tolerate not tollerate.
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Post by Scouse on Jan 11, 2024 17:22:05 GMT
You may have noticed that we don't specifically have a set of rules, my hope is that it self moderates and people can be reasonable with each other, I appreciate that there will be times when things need action but we cross those bridges when we get to them. I don't want to get into loads on here it's disrespectful but you're welcome to drop me a message if you want to discuss in more detail. For the record I am currently working on links directory that will link to other Stoke related sites, here, other forums, podcasts etc etc it's not a one way street, I want people to be able to find whatever works for them to get their SCFC fix, we're not precious about numbers or being the biggest, there is more than enough for everywhere to thrive. I hope in time it becomes a link to all things SCFC, we're hoping to build community over statistics which is why we are self funded (me) and don't run things like google ads. Ha! Good luck with that, mate! Iâd suggest leaving it to other people to self moderate is a little naive at best .. and at worst could open you up to all sorts of criminal and civil litigation .. But away from the who owns , allows and facilitates what to be posted and who carries the can when they do nothing about it ..setting the tone , direction and limits of your board would IMHO be vital to differentiate it from this and other sites ..a wash and repeat is unlikely to work As an established site youâd be looking presumably for some of the people on here to post ..but why would the majority do that if itâs only repeating themselves and getting the same responses .. though I also presume youâd be looking for entirely new posters .. whatâs going to attract them to your board if theyâre not attracted here ..you could get all the ones who have been banned from here of course.. but would you want that For some it might be said the moderation on here is too lax or weak ..others would say itâs too restrictive .. itâs things like the tone and content of your board thatâs likely to be the make or break , rather than being ad free etc ..one area might be to look at deciding if less multiple short threads worked better for you and go down less but longer threads as some successful boards do ..though thereâs pros & cons in both Some people really arnt encouraged to post if debates degenerate all to quickly into abuse , go off topic , or else turn into farce .. whilst for others thatâs one of the main attractions .. thereâs a whole host of things where admin sets the standards ..light hearted , sleezy even or serious debating , a mix possibly but what are your bottom lines How will you deal with any abuse of the club , itâs board , players or staff .. and to what level .. how will you control politically or religious motivated or biased members , some of whom can be both clever and persistent in using message boards to get their âmessageâ and influence out there What will be your stance on streaming of live games .. many boards ban it altogether due to the legal minefield that exists , whilst some fans and expats who canât go to games see this as an important helpful factor , other match going fans see it as the grey legal area it is and that it discourages support within the game Good luck , but realistically itâd need to offer something different in its content weighting than here to be successful .. how you define âdifferentâ would of course be up to you Hope this helps
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Post by baconburger on Jan 11, 2024 17:33:30 GMT
Ha! Good luck with that, mate! Iâd suggest leaving it to other people to self moderate is a little naive at best .. and at worst could open you up to all sorts of criminal and civil litigation .. But away from the who owns , allows and facilitates what to be posted and who carries the can when they do nothing about it ..setting the tone , direction and limits of your board would IMHO be vital to differentiate it from this and other sites ..a wash and repeat is unlikely to work As an established site youâd be looking presumably for some of the people on here to post ..but why would the majority do that if itâs only repeating themselves and getting the same responses .. though I also presume youâd be looking for entirely new posters .. whatâs going to attract them to your board if theyâre not attracted here .. you could get all the ones who have been banned from here of course.. but would you want thatFor some it might be said the moderation on here is too lax or weak ..others would say itâs too restrictive .. itâs things like the tone and content of your board thatâs likely to be the make or break , rather than being ad free etc ..one area might be to look at deciding if less multiple short threads worked better for you and go down less but longer threads as some successful boards do ..though thereâs pros & cons in both Some people really arnt encouraged to post if debates degenerate all to quickly into abuse , go off topic , or else turn into farce .. whilst for others thatâs one of the main attractions .. thereâs a whole host of things where admin sets the standards ..light hearted , sleezy even or serious debating , a mix possibly but what are your bottom lines How will you deal with any abuse of the club , itâs board , players or staff .. and to what level .. how will you control politically or religious motivated or biased members , some of whom can be both clever and persistent in using message boards to get their âmessageâ and influence out there What will be your stance on streaming of live games .. many boards ban it altogether due to the legal minefield that exists , whilst some fans and expats who canât go to games see this as an important helpful factor , other match going fans see it as the grey legal area it is and that it discourages support within the game Good luck , but realistically itâd need to offer something different in its content weighting than here to be successful .. how you define âdifferentâ would of course be up to you Hope this helps Why aren't they already back on?
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Post by Scouse on Jan 11, 2024 17:46:24 GMT
Iâd suggest leaving it to other people to self moderate is a little naive at best .. and at worst could open you up to all sorts of criminal and civil litigation .. But away from the who owns , allows and facilitates what to be posted and who carries the can when they do nothing about it ..setting the tone , direction and limits of your board would IMHO be vital to differentiate it from this and other sites ..a wash and repeat is unlikely to work As an established site youâd be looking presumably for some of the people on here to post ..but why would the majority do that if itâs only repeating themselves and getting the same responses .. though I also presume youâd be looking for entirely new posters .. whatâs going to attract them to your board if theyâre not attracted here .. you could get all the ones who have been banned from here of course.. but would you want thatFor some it might be said the moderation on here is too lax or weak ..others would say itâs too restrictive .. itâs things like the tone and content of your board thatâs likely to be the make or break , rather than being ad free etc ..one area might be to look at deciding if less multiple short threads worked better for you and go down less but longer threads as some successful boards do ..though thereâs pros & cons in both Some people really arnt encouraged to post if debates degenerate all to quickly into abuse , go off topic , or else turn into farce .. whilst for others thatâs one of the main attractions .. thereâs a whole host of things where admin sets the standards ..light hearted , sleezy even or serious debating , a mix possibly but what are your bottom lines How will you deal with any abuse of the club , itâs board , players or staff .. and to what level .. how will you control politically or religious motivated or biased members , some of whom can be both clever and persistent in using message boards to get their âmessageâ and influence out there What will be your stance on streaming of live games .. many boards ban it altogether due to the legal minefield that exists , whilst some fans and expats who canât go to games see this as an important helpful factor , other match going fans see it as the grey legal area it is and that it discourages support within the game Good luck , but realistically itâd need to offer something different in its content weighting than here to be successful .. how you define âdifferentâ would of course be up to you Hope this helps Why aren't they already back on? I wouldnât know if every single person whoâs ever been banned has been allowed back on .. I suspect not .. aside from genuine posters who either drone on a little to much , or a little overly scheming or just get overly passionate at times and need to take a break .. and if they wonât do it then admin does it for them ..I suspect thereâs also been occasions of a much darker nature where the site has been targeted as a tool to get darker views an airing and into the public domain ....I very much doubt theyâve been let back on
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