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Post by pavel on Dec 17, 2023 11:23:42 GMT
What an abomination of a line up, bereft of goals, flair and any sort of thought apart from fear. Tactically a void.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2023 11:23:59 GMT
It looks like same formation that worked well on Tuesday with a straight swap of Jun Ho for Junior and Thompson for the suspended Pearson. Why all the drama? The big problem with Neil he was trying to be too clever and changing the formation and players virtually every week so playing a settled formation makes sense to me. Hoever McNally Rose Gooch Burger Thompson Junho Laurent Johnson Mmaee Anyone who plays Hoever at right back without defensive cover in front of him wants rodding. |
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 17, 2023 11:24:13 GMT
With sides like that, we need a new manager in before the Millwall game! We'll get tanked today with that lot! Awful.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 17, 2023 11:24:21 GMT
Haksabanovic and Campbell are injured Yes Videgal despite his form is the obvious choice They’ve been out long enough without any stated significant issue. Bottle I think |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 17, 2023 11:24:51 GMT
It looks like same formation that worked well on Tuesday with a straight swap of Jun Ho for Junior and Thompson for the suspended Pearson. Why all the drama? The big problem with Neil he was trying to be too clever and changing the formation and players virtually every week so playing a settled formation makes sense to me. It isn't because Junior isn't playing If same again who is playing RWB? We didn't play with wingbacks as I recall - we played 4231. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2023 11:25:28 GMT
Fuck knows. Thompson? Johnson? Junho? |
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Post by lordb on Dec 17, 2023 11:25:56 GMT
It looks like same formation that worked well on Tuesday with a straight swap of Jun Ho for Junior and Thompson for the suspended Pearson. Why all the drama? The big problem with Neil he was trying to be too clever and changing the formation and players virtually every week so playing a settled formation makes sense to me. Worked well😂😂😂😂😂😂 We had 16 shots and has 4 or 5 players in the opposition box much of the time Champagne football? Definitely not but definitely a step in the right direction re intent to try and bloody score |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 17, 2023 11:26:10 GMT
It looks like same formation that worked well on Tuesday with a straight swap of Jun Ho for Junior and Thompson for the suspended Pearson. Why all the drama? The big problem with Neil he was trying to be too clever and changing the formation and players virtually every week so playing a settled formation makes sense to me. Hoever McNally Rose Gooch Burger Thompson Junho Laurent Johnson Mmaee Yes - that's how I read it |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 17, 2023 11:26:41 GMT
It isn't because Junior isn't playing If same again who is playing RWB? We didn't play with wingbacks as I recall - we played 4231. It's a bone of contention, lots of us thought it was 4231 and and lots of others thought it was 3421. |
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 17, 2023 11:26:45 GMT
Is Stevens injured?
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 11:26:46 GMT
They’ve been out long enough without any stated significant issue. Bottle I think OK you can’t stand the players who are most likely to score and create some goals. You must love the lineup. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 17, 2023 11:27:45 GMT
Poor. What’s junior done wrong this time? Hoever definitely has some kind of playing clause. feck the clause,if Wolves dont like it,they can always have him back. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 17, 2023 11:28:22 GMT
It isn't because Junior isn't playing If same again who is playing RWB? We didn't play with wingbacks as I recall - we played 4231. We played 3421 Hoever in back 3 which is why he didn't get forward Junior RWB and Gooch LWB Gooch was practically camped in their half Box midfield Mmaee up top This argument was had the other day, someone put the heat maps up which proved it |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 17, 2023 11:29:00 GMT
It looks like same formation that worked well on Tuesday with a straight swap of Jun Ho for Junior and Thompson for the suspended Pearson. Why all the drama? The big problem with Neil he was trying to be too clever and changing the formation and players virtually every week so playing a settled formation makes sense to me. Worked well😂😂😂😂😂😂 It did work well - we stopped Swansea playing, created chances and would have won bar yet another defensive howler. I know you don't understand the concept of good defending so probably don't get where the problem lies. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2023 11:29:25 GMT
No Sidebe…again. Is the lad injured as he’s simply dropped of scene since being on the bench each week? Yeah I’ve heard he’s out/unavailable rather than not being selected. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 17, 2023 11:29:59 GMT
OK you can’t stand the players who are most likely to score and create some goals. You must love the lineup. Would possibly play both if fit but come on it's not an unfair criticism of Campbell is it? |
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 17, 2023 11:30:14 GMT
To be fair, the line up hardly screams goals😳
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 11:30:14 GMT
It did work well - we stopped Swansea playing, created chances and would have won bar yet another defensive howler. I know you don't understand the concept of good defending so probably don't get where the problem lies. Where does the problem lie, conceding 1 goal more than Ipswich🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 17, 2023 11:30:18 GMT
I am not sure how Weare going to line up here ...
A back four (Hoever, Rose, McNally, Thompson) with Johnson and Jun-Ho shunted out wide?
A back 3/5 (Gooch, Hoever, Rose, McNally, Thompson) with a box midfielder?
There is a real lack of creativity in that side though. We are definitely looking for an old fashioned smash and grab! 😂
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 17, 2023 11:30:41 GMT
In all seriousness, I can’t get too worked up by a line up created by one of the coaching staff. There must be some thought behind it and, despite not being good on Tuesday, we were at least a bit more attacking than it looked on paper, especially second half.
Someone needs to take the game by the bollocks if we’re going to get anything. Can’t have any passengers, especially in the middle. Bae to provide a bit of spark and creativity as long as he’s not shoved right out wide.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 17, 2023 11:30:46 GMT
Not starting Junior is obviously tactical It gives the new manager instant fanbase approval* when he 'brings him back to the fold' *Lets face it, unless its Pep, he will need it Tactical! Since when did Stoke managers know about tactics? |
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Post by bangorstokie on Dec 17, 2023 11:31:24 GMT
And to think we had a squad that were the pride of the midlands!!
We’re now below the Great Unwashed when it comes to pride.
Now that IS fucking scary!!
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 11:31:25 GMT
OK you can’t stand the players who are most likely to score and create some goals. You must love the lineup. Would possibly play both if fit but come on it's not an unfair criticism of Campbell is it? Personally think he’s nesh but he’s got more bottle than Mmaee. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2023 11:31:30 GMT
We didn't play with wingbacks as I recall - we played 4231. We played 3421 Hoever in back 3 which is why he didn't get forward Junior RWB and Gooch LWB Gooch was practically camped in their half Box midfield Mmaee up top This argument was had the other day, someone put the heat maps up which proved it That was definitely how we lined up Tuesday. I'm struggling to see how we shoehorn the players into the same set up having lost Pearson and Junior. |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 17, 2023 11:35:12 GMT
What a mess that looks on paper. We need a manager and January asap. Goarnn lads surprise me.
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Post by Picasso on Dec 17, 2023 11:40:06 GMT
Can’t see where the goals will come from.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 17, 2023 11:40:31 GMT
We didn't play with wingbacks as I recall - we played 4231. We played 3421 Hoever in back 3 which is why he didn't get forward Junior RWB and Gooch LWB Gooch was practically camped in their half Box midfield Mmaee up top This argument was had the other day, someone put the heat maps up which proved it Looks like people are seeing it differently - the BBC have us lining up 4231 on Tuesday (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67621464 and today (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67673729). I'm not saying that settles it but it does suggest it's debatable. The other interpretation is it's a fluid formation designed to flip depending on need. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2023 11:42:05 GMT
We played 3421 Hoever in back 3 which is why he didn't get forward Junior RWB and Gooch LWB Gooch was practically camped in their half Box midfield Mmaee up top This argument was had the other day, someone put the heat maps up which proved it Looks like people are seeing it differently - the BBC have us lining up 4231 on Tuesday (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67621464 and today (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67673729). I'm not saying that settles it but it does suggest it's debatable. The other interpretation is it's a fluid formation designed to flip depending on need. Don’t care what the BBC say mate we definitely played 3 at the back with Hoever at right CB. |
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Post by Goonie on Dec 17, 2023 11:43:13 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 11:43:37 GMT
We played 3421 Hoever in back 3 which is why he didn't get forward Junior RWB and Gooch LWB Gooch was practically camped in their half Box midfield Mmaee up top This argument was had the other day, someone put the heat maps up which proved it Looks like people are seeing it differently - the BBC have us lining up 4231 on Tuesday (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67621464 and today (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67673729). I'm not saying that settles it but it does suggest it's debatable. The other interpretation is it's a fluid formation designed to flip depending on need. Maybe we could try a formation/lineup designed to score but hey if flipping is what floats your boat. |
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