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Post by lordherefordsknob on Dec 9, 2023 21:28:51 GMT
Preston were as bad last season and came away with the same result.
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Post by lordb on Dec 9, 2023 21:32:44 GMT
Preston were as bad last season and came away with the same result. That was a shocker but I think Wednesday today we're even worse Stoke deserved to lose both matches mind Wednesday fans say it's the worst they have played under their new manager, luckily for them they were playing Stoke today
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 9, 2023 21:49:03 GMT
They are the worst side we have played and we are the worst side they have played.
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Post by fca47 on Dec 9, 2023 22:36:39 GMT
It was the worst game of football, mainly because it was between two unskilled, unorganised teams, but Rotherham were obviously the worst side, but we have gone downhill since then
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Post by thepottypotter on Dec 9, 2023 22:46:05 GMT
Rotherham were worse.
These are a close second
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 9, 2023 22:52:22 GMT
To say they played like a pub side is offensive to pub sides.
(And I've played for pub sides in which 9* of the 11 players have turned up having not been to sleep and consumed 17 pints and a minimum of x4 Garys in the 12 hours prior to kick off.)
*I have on more than one occasion been one of said players
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Post by dave1 on Dec 9, 2023 22:55:46 GMT
To say they played like a pub side is offensive to pub sides. (And I've played for pub sides in which 9* of the 11 players have turned up having not been to sleep and consumed 17 pints and a minimum of x4 Garys in the 12 hours prior to kick off.) *I have on more than one occasion been one of said players 17 pints on 4 garys is very impressive sir....
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Post by doctortheopolis on Dec 9, 2023 23:10:36 GMT
The Hull team that we walloped just before lockdown in 2020 were an absolute bag of toss. Wednesday were just as comparable though. I don't think I've seen a team put the ball out of play so many times before. They were total wank.
However, they still beat us 😢
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 9, 2023 23:13:35 GMT
I'm very conscious that visiting Wednesday fans might confuse this thread for sour grapes- if you're one of those Owls fans, it's not sour grapes. I, and I'd bet most Stokies, would say that Wednesday are a proper club and we respect you a lot.
It's more that you are genuinely shit at the moment, and the fact that you won fair and square means we're subsequently even shitter. No sour grapes, just a harrowing moment of realisation that we're up shit creek because we really are wank too.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 9, 2023 23:34:40 GMT
Wednesday were the worst opposition I've seen since relegation and we were even worse.
Rotherham were crap but better than Wednesday - we were actually quite good that day.
I've supported Neil but that performance was so bad he's lost me. The depressing thing is I don't believe a new manager will make a blind bit of difference - he has to go but unless we pull off an out of character, miracle appointment I think we will get worse.
All the realistic talk is about a dinosaur appointment and that will kill this side. Any manager coming in with a view to knuckle down and grind out results just hasn't got the raw material to work with. The only way to turn this round is to go for a manager who can get a tune out of the talent in the side and I can't seeing us doing that. It smacks of a Lambert appointment - someone who will marginalise the talent, get us relegated and create a squad of players hellbent on getting out in order to resurrect their career elsewhere.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Dec 10, 2023 0:01:54 GMT
I'd say at this level, in the years since our relegation, they almost certainly are. Never seen a team make so many comical errors in defence, falling over their own feet and basically giving us the ball in dangerous areas time and time again. Even Rotherham were better. It is embarrassing beyond belief that we lost to them, yet it also shows where we are as a team. Without any form of intentional disrespect to Wednesday or their supporters I’d agree fully with you comments. Having said that I’m extremely concerned and disappointed where that leaves us as a club/team. I wasn’t too excited by the appointment of AN and his record over circa 70 games has only added substance to my original fears. His home record is nothing short of ATROCIOUS. His points per game record is well? The standard of football has been extremely disappointing (being diplomatic), not good enough. I’m completely open to anyone posting an alternative positive opinion about AN and his record to-date.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 10, 2023 0:06:27 GMT
I'd say at this level, in the years since our relegation, they almost certainly are. Never seen a team make so many comical errors in defence, falling over their own feet and basically giving us the ball in dangerous areas time and time again. Even Rotherham were better. It is embarrassing beyond belief that we lost to them, yet it also shows where we are as a team. I thought that they looked awful, yet they somehow managed to beat us. I think that their two centre backs seemed decent and Barry Bannan a solid midfielder. Beyond that, they genuinely looked like a Sunday League team. The overall quality from both teams today's was awful. An total lack of quality and composure mixed in with school boy errors everywhere.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 10, 2023 0:26:44 GMT
We should have just stuck with MON. It was shit but you could see a plan. Maybe with ffp shackles off he could have done something ... Anything is better than this for fucks sake. Jared, Niel, the other pointless guy, hold your heads in absolute disgrace. He could have signed players to suit his formation even with the shackles, he didn't, he was just as bad.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 10, 2023 3:11:36 GMT
They got the win but if that squad stays up I’ll be amazed. Absolute fucking turd and they beat us. The best one was where their lad tried to control it on the left wing at the end of the first half and ended up shinning it out of play before falling over. As if we lost to them. Not sour grapes or anything, they’ll obviously take whatever they can, but they were so bad. We kicked a free out of play, passed the ball straight into touch missed a penalty and Rose was the player closest to scoring We are absolutely muck and it’s all on Neil
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Post by independent on Dec 10, 2023 3:18:49 GMT
We should have just stuck with MON. It was shit but you could see a plan. Maybe with ffp shackles off he could have done something ... Anything is better than this for fucks sake. Jared, Niel, the other pointless guy, hold your heads in absolute disgrace. He could have signed players to suit his formation even with the shackles, he didn't, he was just as bad. In his two full seasons with his best players out injured he still managed 60 pts. and 62pts. Nobody knows who he tried to sign without the money needed to do so.He could have done lots of things but even making all the mistakes that all you cheerleaders for AN say that he made, his points total won't be matched anytime soon. You guys got what you wanted and now we see the results of your judgement in the League table. We keep hearing from you guys that we need a new structure and a foreign manager but none of you can make one concrete suggestion when it is put up to you. It is laughable to suggest that AN saved us from relegation last season. Does any of you want to give him the opportunity to repeat the trick?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 6:58:10 GMT
They were appalling.
Typical Championship shit.
People actually like watching this league. You’re all mad.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 6:59:48 GMT
He could have signed players to suit his formation even with the shackles, he didn't, he was just as bad. In his two full seasons with his best players out injured he still managed 60 pts. and 62pts. Nobody knows who he tried to sign without the money needed to do so.He could have done lots of things but even making all the mistakes that all you cheerleaders for AN say that he made, his points total won't be matched anytime soon. You guys got what you wanted and now we see the results of your judgement in the League table. We keep hearing from you guys that we need a new structure and a foreign manager but none of you can make one concrete suggestion when it is put up to you. It is laughable to suggest that AN saved us from relegation last season. Does any of you want to give him the opportunity to repeat the trick? He was crap and sacked too late. Shit is getting normalised. It has to stop. Get some standards.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 10, 2023 7:04:30 GMT
They were appalling. Typical Championship shit. People actually like watching this league. You’re all mad. Thanks to FFP and all the clowns that vote for it in the EFL, it's turning into a race to the bottom league with it being nicely (nicely for the PL teams) dragged away from the top division. It's a dreadful league and we've consistently been one of the worst teams in it for 5 years in a row.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 7:08:00 GMT
They were appalling. Typical Championship shit. People actually like watching this league. You’re all mad. Thanks to FFP and all the clowns that vote for it in the EFL, it's turning into a race to the bottom league with it being nicely (nicely for the PL teams) dragged away from the top division. It's a dreadful league and we've consistently been one of the worst teams in it for 5 years in a row. Yup. A different shade of shit under each manager. To think we could have had Bojan as a 10 and Diouf up front in this fucking league but the bloke we got went for McClean and Afobe instead. Makes me weep. Nevermind, I’m just a know nothing moaning Vale fan who has been talking shit all this time apparently.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 10, 2023 8:29:11 GMT
He could have signed players to suit his formation even with the shackles, he didn't, he was just as bad. In his two full seasons with his best players out injured he still managed 60 pts. and 62pts. Nobody knows who he tried to sign without the money needed to do so.He could have done lots of things but even making all the mistakes that all you cheerleaders for AN say that he made, his points total won't be matched anytime soon. You guys got what you wanted and now we see the results of your judgement in the League table. We keep hearing from you guys that we need a new structure and a foreign manager but none of you can make one concrete suggestion when it is put up to you. It is laughable to suggest that AN saved us from relegation last season. Does any of you want to give him the opportunity to repeat the trick? I'm not an AN cheerleader, I think his time is up, that doesn't change the fact that MON was just as bad.
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Post by owlfan on Dec 10, 2023 8:59:06 GMT
Not sure you’ll welcome the view of a Wednesday fan this morning but here you go.
Worst 45 minutes of football I can recall. Thought we fought more than you but to no avail as our passing and ball retention was utterly woeful. The weather offers some excuse but doesn’t explain both playing THAT badly.
The quality 2nd half went from 1/10 to 4/10. For the first 15-20 minutes you were all over us, first to every ball and dangerous with every attack. AN got a tune out of you for that period but then you seemed to drop the level.
Bae scared me to death; first time I’ve seen him but he looked terrific. Lovely control and tidy feet to get that one-on-one our keeper kept out. Hope he’s injured for the return please.
Never a pen. Any penalty save is good but that was a very poorly taken effort.
Our subs made the difference. You won’t have picked up on this but the 3 players involved in the one-touch move for the goal were the 3 attaching subs. The lad who scored is lightening but usually can’t finish.
As for us being the worst side to visit, by Christ you should have seen us earlier in the season under Xisco Munoz!! You can’t begin to imagine. We are unrecognisable under our new young German manager (watch out for him, Danny Röhl - could be really special) and our draw v Leicester and win v Blackburn were our best performances of the season. Yesterday we were well below that level but apart from that 25 minute spell I thought we slightly out-scrapped you.
Bear in mind that yesterday’s team only had 9 of last year’s L1 team. Only the two CBs are new. The goal-scoring sub is new and has bags of promise if he can find his radar.
Like I said, I think the conditions explain a lot of the dross on view, but some of the passing by both teams left me shaking my head.
Good luck for the rest of the season. We’ll take 21st right now so get beating QPR, Huddersfield and Rotherham.
It’s a pleasant surprise to find a set of fans who hate AN more than we do.
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Post by Ron on Dec 10, 2023 9:01:00 GMT
I think we’re currently amongst the worst championship sides I’ve seen post relegation. The side Jones fielded v Leeds was probably one of the worst stoke sides I’ve ever seen. So too the current crop
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 10, 2023 9:10:56 GMT
They were appalling. Typical Championship shit. People actually like watching this league. You’re all mad. The game really was shit but no way was it typical of the Championship - it stood out as being so shit because it was no where near the quality of a typical Championship game. The standard of play at times would have embarrassed a league 2 side
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 9:12:43 GMT
They were appalling. Typical Championship shit. People actually like watching this league. You’re all mad. The game really was shit but no way was it typical of the Championship - it stood out as being so shit because it was no where near the quality of a typical Championship game. The standard of play at times would have embarrassed a league 2 side It was. It was devoid of football. That’s the Championship.
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Post by lordb on Dec 10, 2023 9:25:43 GMT
The game really was shit but no way was it typical of the Championship - it stood out as being so shit because it was no where near the quality of a typical Championship game. The standard of play at times would have embarrassed a league 2 side It was. It was devoid of football. That’s the Championship. The standard was far far worse than any other game this season, the Championship is better than that
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 9:35:20 GMT
It was. It was devoid of football. That’s the Championship. The standard was far far worse than any other game this season, the Championship is better than that But it’s not. It’s a terrible league where football is generally not seen.
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Post by bedworthstokie on Dec 10, 2023 10:29:01 GMT
No Stoke are at the moment, we are like the shittest away side ever but in fact we are the home team, neil and the previous 4 managers have decimated the atmosphere and the players are petrified to play at home
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Post by owdgrandadstokie on Dec 10, 2023 11:00:17 GMT
No Stoke are at the moment, we are like the shittest away side ever but in fact we are the home team, neil and the previous 4 managers have decimated the atmosphere and the players are petrified to play at home As dreadful as Wednesday were, firstly we were worse and secondly they aren't even the worst side to visit the Bet365 this season; Rotherham were by some distance. I wouldn't want any of their players in our squad yet would take at least 3 of Wednesday's; Bannon, Vaulks and the keeper Dawson.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 11:12:34 GMT
Sheff Wed will go down,they won't be playing Stoke every week,so they are fucked,their next win will be when they play us again.I
Rotherham are even worse,they are only the 2 worse teams than us,so unless things change quickly,we will be playing Vale next season,without a doubt.
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 10, 2023 11:20:43 GMT
No, Rotherham. It just fits the agenda to say Wednesday are.
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